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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Sanchez To Geno: 'i'm Still Here, Let's Compete'

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 07:48 PM

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MISSION VIEJO, Calif. (AP) -- If leadership counts for anything, New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez might have a leg-up on teammate Geno Smith for the starting position.

Sanchez has been the engineer of Jets West Camp, a three-day get-together at his former high school for several of his teammates, which concludes Saturday.

The itinerary includes classroom work to study film and plays, as well as on-field passing drills.

The camp has given some of Sanchez's teammates a chance to see him in a somewhat new role.

"He's kind of an extension of the coaching staff," said tight end Konrad Reuland. "It shows that he's taking the initiative and you always want that out of a leader. When we have our meetings, he runs the meetings. I think that's important. I think guys respect the fact that he puts this on. He's done a good job with it."

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For Sanchez, it's all about the competition and preparing for it. Being the star quarterback at Mission Viejo High School and USC helped him realize the importance of being prepared on the field, and building bonds off of it.

"(On) teams that don't make the playoffs a couple of years in a row, coaches get fired, players get traded, things change, organizations blow up and start over," Sanchez said. "We're with a new regime, John Idzik wants a quarterback competition. I'm still here, let's compete. That's all I can control. That's really what I'm focused on. I can't worry about anything in the past except getting better from it and moving on."

Sanchez is looking forward to the competition with Smith - and to retaining his starting spot.

"Any kind of competition is good," he added. "When it comes down to competition, I put my money on myself. I bet on myself and go play and go win the job."

The camp's schedule included off-the-field activities that allowed the players to build a rapport and grow closer to each other. Thursday's extracurricular activity included go kart racing, while Friday's passing drills ended with a water-balloon toss.

"Any time you spend time away from the (Jets' training) facility to be out here with the guys is never a bad thing," Sanchez said. "Teams that are closer generally do pretty well. You just trust those players. You develop that rapport off the field."

This is the fourth year that Jets West Camp has been held. It is strictly voluntary and Sanchez doesn't worry about who attends and who doesn't. One noticeable no-show was Smith, who remained in Florida. He claimed that he wasn't aware of the camp. Sanchez said he invited everyone.

"I don't hold it against any of the guys that can't make it," he said. "I probably should have said that right away. There are no hard feelings about anything like that.

"Guys are on vacation and some guys are getting married. They're doing stuff. There are plenty of other things they could be doing. If they can make the sacrifice and be here, awesome. If they can't, totally fine."

Smith wasn't the only Jets quarterback to miss this week's trip to Orange County. Greg McElroy and Matt Simms were also no-shows. That prompted Sanchez to call on USC quarterbacks Max Wittek and Cody Kessler - the winners of the water-balloon contest - to help out when he needed a break.

Sanchez is aware that things haven't gone his or the Jets' way recently. He's not hiding from the mistakes he has made on or off the field. That includes a recent video on which he was caught exposing his bare backside while dancing with two women.

"The video is a little embarrassing but it's a good reminder that you're in the spotlight and you need to be ever-watchful and careful of who you're with and what you're doing," he said. "Whether it's harmless, whether you're in the privacy of your own setting, you feel like everything is fine and safe, you've just got to be careful. That's just a good example of that."

After last season's 8-8 record, the Jets brought in a new general manager in John Idzik and a new offensive coordinator in Marty Mornhinweg. Shortly thereafter, Idzik announced that there would be a competition for the team's quarterback spot.

"This is a league that changes very quickly," Sanchez said. "It's 'What have you done for me lately?'

Sanchez's teammates are equally as passionate about turning things around for the organization. They see Jets West Camp as a good place to start.

"This is great because I'm behind on offense," said tight end Kellen Winslow, who had 75 receptions in 2011 but played in only one game last season because of contractual issues. "I need to catch up. I'm just coming in trying to be a piece of the puzzle, trying to make plays for the team.

"In this league you've got to get better or you're just getting worse. It's all about repetition and getting better every day. I'm lucky to have job. I'm happy to be back."

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 09:34 PM

For the Jets, it would be best for Sanchez to come in and beast it next year. Fans can scream for Geno all they want, but Sanchez putting up solid numbers is the only way to potentially make something of what seems to be a very bad investment so far.
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:42 PM

View PostChaos, on 13 July 2013 - 10:34 PM, said:

For the Jets, it would be best for Sanchez to come in and beast it next year. Fans can scream for Geno all they want, but Sanchez putting up solid numbers is the only way to potentially make something of what seems to be a very bad investment so far.


difference now i suppose is that if sanchez goes out there and has a 3int game with a fumble you wont see him start the next one and then the next one then the next one then the next one while rex keeps praising him infront of the media
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:25 PM

I'm rooting for Sanchez. Yes he's been AWFUL esp last season but I got a feeling he will perform this year(there has to be some kind of play making ability). I really like what we did with the Oline and our backs are definatley better. I respect the fact he's not laying down for Geno.


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Posted 15 July 2013 - 02:14 AM

I never seen a guy get so much love for being one of the worst starters in the league. How can anyone have faith in him? he's declined.. went backwards. He's mentally soft. I'm tired. Geno-time.
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Posted 15 July 2013 - 09:44 AM

It's more about the investment than love for Sanchez. A decent season by him allows the Jets to compete for the playoffs and gain a new bargaining chip.
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Posted 15 July 2013 - 01:14 PM

Remember, it's NOT a bad thing if Sanchez magically figures it out this season. That being said, he buttfumbled. How does one come back from a buttfumble to be a competent football player?
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Posted 15 July 2013 - 04:04 PM

View PostJetsOhFive, on 15 July 2013 - 11:14 AM, said:

Remember, it's NOT a bad thing if Sanchez magically figures it out this season. That being said, he buttfumbled. How does one come back from a buttfumble to be a competent football player?


he can win 5 SBs and the buttfuble will still be his most famous play
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 03:38 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 15 July 2013 - 05:04 PM, said:

he can win 5 SBs and the buttfuble will still be his most famous play

Five? I would say the chances of him ever winning even one are about zero. The Jets couldn't even make it to the Superbowl with the #1 oline,#1 center, 3 first round picks on the oline #1 defense,#1 corner, #1 running game, and even a future HOF rb in LT with Sanchez behind center.He had two years with a team that was top caliber. So what else would Sanchez need to add along with that kind of talent to actually win a Superbowl?

He couldn't even perform at a qb league average level with all that around him. Most average qbs would have been able to win a Superbowl with the team having so many #1 areas around him.

Yet he is possibly going to figure things out this year and look good when he couldn't even be average in any of his 4 years? The chances of him figuring it out this year are close to zero. Sanchez needs basically the number one everything in almost every category to even look half decent. Basically he is what he is. A bad pick. Excuses are getting old. No matter what Sanchez has had around him bad or good he continues to stay near the bottom of the league in more areas than he isn't. No other qb in the league other than Mark has kept his job that has remained at the bottom ratings.

I will throw a huge party when he is benched for good or gone.Heck with this supporting a player just because he is on the team. Mark has had 4 complete years to prove himself.He hasn't. Give Geno the ball. He deserves the shot that Sanchez had to start right from the start. Let Mark hold the clipboard.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 06:41 PM

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:48 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 15 July 2013 - 05:04 PM, said:

he can win 5 SBs and the buttfuble will still be his most famous play


If Sanchez wins 5 Super Bowls, ESPN can play the butt fumble nonstop for weeks on end and I couldn't care less.
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Posted 19 July 2013 - 02:10 PM

View PostChaos, on 18 July 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:

If Sanchez wins 5 Super Bowls, ESPN can play the butt fumble nonstop for weeks on end and I couldn't care less.
Well realistically speaking if Sanchez starts this year and doesn't have a VERY SOLID season the chances of him even starting again for any team are not very high unless he comes in due to an injury.

No matter how I feel about him I just cant see any team bringing him in as a starter under almost an circumstance if he doesn't look very good this year. This year is almost definitely his last shot if he even gets it.
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:22 PM

Geno to Sanchez: 'OK, get your undies back on, summer holidays are over, let's compete for real, starting next week.'
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