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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Whats Taking The Jets So Long To Sign Our Top 3 Picks

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:25 PM

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With training camp approaching, only 29 draft picks remain unsigned leaguewide, three of whom are Jets -- Dee Milliner, Sheldon Richardson and Geno Smith. What's taking so long?

John Idzik has a reputation for being a hardline negotiator, and -- like many GMs -- he's being challenged on the issue of offset language in fully guaranteed contracts. This has become a hot-button topic around the league, and it's believed to be the primary hurdle in the Milliner and Richardson negotiations.

Since the current CBA went into effect in 2011, the Jets have always demanded offsets for their first-round picks. In fact, the Muhammad Wilkerson and Quinton Coples contracts include offset language. From all indications, Idzik has no intention of changing the organizational policy.

But here's the rub: More and more teams are doing deals without offsets. In fact, the three top-10 picks who have signed -- Luke Joeckel (Chiefs), Ezekiel Ansah (Lions) and Tavon Austin (Rams) -- all received contracts with no offset clauses. Milliner was the ninth pick, Richardson the 13th. Thus, they will sign four-year deals for $12.66 million and $10.05 million, respectively, give or take a few nickels. Total value is the easy part.

The rookie wage scale has streamlined negotiations, but the offset matter has complicated things a bit. Hey, agents and teams need to argue about something, right?

Offset language means teams recoup future guaranteed money if they cut a player and he signs elsewhere. Whatever the player earns from his new team is subtracted from what the old team owes him. It prevents "double dipping" by the player. The Jets gave a no-offset deal to Mark Sanchez last year (pre-Idzik), but they haven't done it for a rookie.

Another issue in the Milliner and Richardson talks could be signing-bonus payout. I'm told that Idzik is a staunch believer in holding on to as much money as possible, deferring bonus payments.

Idzik is on the clock because the Jets' rookies are due to report Monday. They can't afford to miss any time, especially Smith, who is battling Sanchez for the quarterback job. So why the delay with Smith?

Smith is one of only three second-round picks who remain unsigned. Because his contract won't be fully guaranteed, there's no issue with offset language. However, it's believed that the Andy Dalton and Colin Kaepernick rookie deals from 2011 are impacting the Smith negotiations.


As quarterbacks, Dalton (No. 35 overall) and Kaepernick (No. 36) received a higher percentage of guaranteed money than some of those drafted around them. For instance, 74 percent of Kaepernick's four-year, $5.124 million contract is guaranteed, according to overthecap.com. There's no doubt that Smith (No. 39) is looking for a sweeter deal than some of those ahead of him. The 38th pick, LB Manti Te'o, received a 62 percent guarantee on his $5.172 million. You can bet Smith wants to be in the Dalton/Kaepernick neighborhood.

Idzik was described by one source as "unbendable." We'll find out more about him in the coming days.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:40 PM

Good job getting rookies signed Idzik /sarcasm
Get it done MT
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:54 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 17 July 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Good job getting rookies signed Idzik /sarcasm

:banghead: :rolleyes:
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 02:54 PM

FIRE IZ-DICK
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 02:56 PM

GOOD! Why give bad contracts? Hello, Sanchez's!
I'm a JETS fan, I want what's best for the team. The rookies will fall in line and sign.
If Milliner gets cut in three years and then signs somewhere else, we should get a credit.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 02:57 PM

fire him, WHY? i'm i the only non-retarded Jets fan.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 03:08 PM

In my hearts of hearts I think 50% of Jets Fans, just love to hate the Jets.
If we became a "winning" franchise they'd become Browns fans.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 03:12 PM

View PostDamonWB, on 17 July 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

fire him, WHY? i'm i the only non-retarded Jets fan.


You don't get the joke because you aren't here often
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 03:16 PM

View PostDamonWB, on 17 July 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

fire him, WHY? i'm i the only non-retarded Jets fan.

Its a joke. Jetsfan115 has decided he wanted to be that guy and just hate Idzik for no reason at all. He criticizes him for everything. Also called him Iz-dick.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:44 PM

Fire everyone! Trade Wilk! Cut Cro! Make Sanchez OC!
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 05:18 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 17 July 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

Its a joke. Jetsfan115 has decided he wanted to be that guy and just hate Idzik for no reason at all. He criticizes him for everything. Also called him Iz-dick.


I wouldn't say for no reason, but yeah i hate him. he has to prove his worth for me. I'm done giving "benefit of the doubt" and he's made enough bad moves so far to earn his "Iz-dik" title in my book
Get it done MT
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 08:32 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 18 July 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

I wouldn't say for no reason, but yeah i hate him. he has to prove his worth for me. I'm done giving "benefit of the doubt" and he's made enough bad moves so far to earn his "Iz-dik" title in my book


But Stephen Hill, who has proven for the Jets that he couldn't catch a cold butt-naked in Antarctica, has total immunity! Makes total sense . . .
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 10:36 PM

View PostTebow15, on 18 July 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

But Stephen Hill, who has proven for the Jets that he couldn't catch a cold butt-naked in Antarctica, has total immunity! Makes total sense . . .


I don't believe anyone could catch a cold butt naked in Antarctica its a very frozen and sanitary place. Germs don't really survive at those temperatures. Hypothermia is a better option.
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Posted 19 July 2013 - 04:11 PM

i've been a part of this site for years. i just don't reply to stuff that often, also computer crash and had to set a new username.
shit i think i stumbled across this site while i still lived in jersey, years ago.
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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:32 PM

View PostTebow15, on 18 July 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

But Stephen Hill, who has proven for the Jets that he couldn't catch a cold butt-naked in Antarctica, has total immunity! Makes total sense . . .


he was a rookie WR, who had injuries, and no QB/OC/or o-line. His rookie game showed what he is capable of doing. hill showed more in taht 1 game then idzik has shown this offseason of 3 months
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Posted 19 July 2013 - 07:07 PM

You're reaching....
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Posted 20 July 2013 - 07:04 PM

115 get real.
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Posted 23 July 2013 - 04:47 PM

I feel more stupid every time I read a post by 115.
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:46 AM

View PostJetsOhFive, on 23 July 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

I feel more stupid every time I read a post by 115.


didn't think it was possible for you to get dumber then you already are
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