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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 10:39 PM) Erick pecker , he goes hard
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:40 PM) 4th & 5
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 10:40 PM) Catch the f***ing ball nelson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:40 PM) it all comes down to this
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 10:40 PM) David ha ha Nelson is a bum
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:40 PM) why didn't they talk about Kyle Fuler when torched for 51 yards by Salas?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 10:41 PM) Bullshit
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:41 PM) f***
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 10:41 PM) How the f*** is that not interference
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 10:41 PM) That's flag 101 never looking back and pushing the WR
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 10:41 PM) How is that not PI?
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 10:41 PM) Never looked for the ball for a second
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 10:42 PM) Fuck this game fuck the refs fuck this team fuck the season. I'm over this shit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 10:42 PM) That's bullshit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 10:43 PM) On the bright side we get to play Detroit, San Diego, NE and denver in our next 4 games
Mr_Jet Icon : (Today, 10:44 PM) Oh look the refs gave the Jets another timeout. A timeout the Jets didn't even have. SMDH
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 10:45 PM) Until we get rid of geno smith we are going nowhere. Bottom line. Dude is more erratic than romo
Mr_Jet Icon : (Today, 10:45 PM) I'm really not feeling Geno Smith.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 10:45 PM) Or any other QB in the league. Trade for Sanchez Now!
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 10:45 PM) We'd be 3-0 with Sanchez
SokeSleezy Icon : (Today, 10:46 PM) Geno's needs to work on his accuracy,Stafford gonna kill us next week smh
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Today, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 10:46 PM) People saying Sanchez sucks keep in mind he never had a chance to play in morningwegs system. He was held back by shottenheimer
Mr_Jet Icon : (Today, 10:47 PM) This team will never have a franchise QB. We can't draft them and when we sign or trade for them, they're past their primes.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Today, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Today, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Today, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Today, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Today, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Today, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Today, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Today, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Today, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Today, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Today, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Today, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
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Whats Taking The Jets So Long To Sign Our Top 3 Picks

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:25 PM

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With training camp approaching, only 29 draft picks remain unsigned leaguewide, three of whom are Jets -- Dee Milliner, Sheldon Richardson and Geno Smith. What's taking so long?

John Idzik has a reputation for being a hardline negotiator, and -- like many GMs -- he's being challenged on the issue of offset language in fully guaranteed contracts. This has become a hot-button topic around the league, and it's believed to be the primary hurdle in the Milliner and Richardson negotiations.

Since the current CBA went into effect in 2011, the Jets have always demanded offsets for their first-round picks. In fact, the Muhammad Wilkerson and Quinton Coples contracts include offset language. From all indications, Idzik has no intention of changing the organizational policy.

But here's the rub: More and more teams are doing deals without offsets. In fact, the three top-10 picks who have signed -- Luke Joeckel (Chiefs), Ezekiel Ansah (Lions) and Tavon Austin (Rams) -- all received contracts with no offset clauses. Milliner was the ninth pick, Richardson the 13th. Thus, they will sign four-year deals for $12.66 million and $10.05 million, respectively, give or take a few nickels. Total value is the easy part.

The rookie wage scale has streamlined negotiations, but the offset matter has complicated things a bit. Hey, agents and teams need to argue about something, right?

Offset language means teams recoup future guaranteed money if they cut a player and he signs elsewhere. Whatever the player earns from his new team is subtracted from what the old team owes him. It prevents "double dipping" by the player. The Jets gave a no-offset deal to Mark Sanchez last year (pre-Idzik), but they haven't done it for a rookie.

Another issue in the Milliner and Richardson talks could be signing-bonus payout. I'm told that Idzik is a staunch believer in holding on to as much money as possible, deferring bonus payments.

Idzik is on the clock because the Jets' rookies are due to report Monday. They can't afford to miss any time, especially Smith, who is battling Sanchez for the quarterback job. So why the delay with Smith?

Smith is one of only three second-round picks who remain unsigned. Because his contract won't be fully guaranteed, there's no issue with offset language. However, it's believed that the Andy Dalton and Colin Kaepernick rookie deals from 2011 are impacting the Smith negotiations.


As quarterbacks, Dalton (No. 35 overall) and Kaepernick (No. 36) received a higher percentage of guaranteed money than some of those drafted around them. For instance, 74 percent of Kaepernick's four-year, $5.124 million contract is guaranteed, according to overthecap.com. There's no doubt that Smith (No. 39) is looking for a sweeter deal than some of those ahead of him. The 38th pick, LB Manti Te'o, received a 62 percent guarantee on his $5.172 million. You can bet Smith wants to be in the Dalton/Kaepernick neighborhood.

Idzik was described by one source as "unbendable." We'll find out more about him in the coming days.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:40 PM

Good job getting rookies signed Idzik /sarcasm
Get it done MT
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:54 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 17 July 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Good job getting rookies signed Idzik /sarcasm

:banghead: :rolleyes:
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 02:54 PM

FIRE IZ-DICK
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 02:56 PM

GOOD! Why give bad contracts? Hello, Sanchez's!
I'm a JETS fan, I want what's best for the team. The rookies will fall in line and sign.
If Milliner gets cut in three years and then signs somewhere else, we should get a credit.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 02:57 PM

fire him, WHY? i'm i the only non-retarded Jets fan.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 03:08 PM

In my hearts of hearts I think 50% of Jets Fans, just love to hate the Jets.
If we became a "winning" franchise they'd become Browns fans.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 03:12 PM

View PostDamonWB, on 17 July 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

fire him, WHY? i'm i the only non-retarded Jets fan.


You don't get the joke because you aren't here often
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 03:16 PM

View PostDamonWB, on 17 July 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

fire him, WHY? i'm i the only non-retarded Jets fan.

Its a joke. Jetsfan115 has decided he wanted to be that guy and just hate Idzik for no reason at all. He criticizes him for everything. Also called him Iz-dick.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:44 PM

Fire everyone! Trade Wilk! Cut Cro! Make Sanchez OC!
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 05:18 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 17 July 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

Its a joke. Jetsfan115 has decided he wanted to be that guy and just hate Idzik for no reason at all. He criticizes him for everything. Also called him Iz-dick.


I wouldn't say for no reason, but yeah i hate him. he has to prove his worth for me. I'm done giving "benefit of the doubt" and he's made enough bad moves so far to earn his "Iz-dik" title in my book
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 08:32 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 18 July 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

I wouldn't say for no reason, but yeah i hate him. he has to prove his worth for me. I'm done giving "benefit of the doubt" and he's made enough bad moves so far to earn his "Iz-dik" title in my book


But Stephen Hill, who has proven for the Jets that he couldn't catch a cold butt-naked in Antarctica, has total immunity! Makes total sense . . .
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 10:36 PM

View PostTebow15, on 18 July 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

But Stephen Hill, who has proven for the Jets that he couldn't catch a cold butt-naked in Antarctica, has total immunity! Makes total sense . . .


I don't believe anyone could catch a cold butt naked in Antarctica its a very frozen and sanitary place. Germs don't really survive at those temperatures. Hypothermia is a better option.
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Posted 19 July 2013 - 04:11 PM

i've been a part of this site for years. i just don't reply to stuff that often, also computer crash and had to set a new username.
shit i think i stumbled across this site while i still lived in jersey, years ago.
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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:32 PM

View PostTebow15, on 18 July 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

But Stephen Hill, who has proven for the Jets that he couldn't catch a cold butt-naked in Antarctica, has total immunity! Makes total sense . . .


he was a rookie WR, who had injuries, and no QB/OC/or o-line. His rookie game showed what he is capable of doing. hill showed more in taht 1 game then idzik has shown this offseason of 3 months
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Posted 19 July 2013 - 07:07 PM

You're reaching....
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Posted 20 July 2013 - 07:04 PM

115 get real.
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Posted 23 July 2013 - 04:47 PM

I feel more stupid every time I read a post by 115.
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:46 AM

View PostJetsOhFive, on 23 July 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

I feel more stupid every time I read a post by 115.


didn't think it was possible for you to get dumber then you already are
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