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Jetsfan115 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 05:43 PM) injuries and poor QB play aren't good for a WR to develop
Jetsman05 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 06:08 PM) 115 and Hill. Lol!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) the excuses, Hill is just a terrible football player. no debate, just a fact. guy is soft as shit as well
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 AM) right cause all our other WRs were lighting it up
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 07:04 PM) Hill is useless bro lol
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:05 PM) All I can say I streamed this game and if anyone thinks about recording it from NFL Network at 4pm Eastern Saturday.....DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:07 PM) This game was pure sh1t. Even though it was back up players the Jets got totally destroyed in this game. After seeing this game Im really worried about the Jets starting core because these backup guys looked like they shouldn't have even been on the field at all. I just hope the starters are 3000 times better than these guys that played in game 4
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:09 PM) The Jets got horse f*cked by the Eagles in this game.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:24 PM) we are hosed in the secondary
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (Today, 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (Today, 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
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New York Jets Ignore Low Expectations And Embrace Opportunity

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:40 PM

CORTLAND, N.Y. -- Let's face it: Not much is expected of these New York Jets.

Oh, there's a quarterback competition, of course. There will be headlines generated by some sort of locker room drama, either real or contrived or somewhere in between. Rex Ryan will say something -- he always does, right? -- and the Jets remain likelier than the Giants to dominate the back pages of the New York tabloids and sports talk radio.

But on the field? Expectations couldn't be lower. Will they win six games? Four? Would a .500 record represent a football miracle? Bottom line: Does this group even have a chance?

The overwhelming answer to that last question seems to be no. At least outside the confines of 1 Jets Drive. And, for the better part of the next three weeks, SUNY Cortland.

So, as they reported to training camp Thursday, what did the Jets have to say about all of this? How did they respond to their naysayers?

The answers: nothing, and they didn't.

"It honestly doesn't affect what we do here," said quarterback Mark Sanchez, who will have to hold off rookie Geno Smith to keep his job. Sanchez added, "The outside expectations don't bother us at all."

Said cornerback Antonio Cromartie: "You can't worry about what everyone expects and what people think on the outside. It's about us and only about us."

For the record, Sanchez spoke in his usual even tones, with an occasional smile and while wearing the ever-present headband. A grinning Cromartie could not have seemed more content.

A year ago, the Jets would have handled this differently. Someone -- the now-departed Bart Scott would be the prime guess -- would have either predicted, loudly, that the critics would eat crow or would have illustrated his disdain for the media by refusing to talk at all.

This year is different. Where outsiders see a season likely headed for doom, these Jets are embracing opportunity. Where some see certain defeat, Rex Ryan and his players are highlighting competition. As Ryan noted Thursday, the Jets might have as many as 13 new starters, including perhaps eight on defense.

Essentially, the Jets have posted the equivalent of a "Help Wanted" sign, and everyone in the locker room should know it.

There is, Ryan said, "a great chance here. Is there really a player on this team that has no chance of being on the (53-man roster) or developmental squad? I don't think there is."

He added: "I don't know if there is ever going to (be) more competition than we're going to have this training camp."

There are plenty of jobs to be won, and there are players on the inside track for some of them. Chris Ivory was an expendable running back for the New Orleans Saints, who traded him to the Jets in April. He'll battle for carries with Joe McKnight (who finally passed his conditioning test Friday), Bilal Powell and possibly Mike Goodson, who hasn't reported because of issues that are, apparently, in addition to his legal troubles.

Veteran Braylon Edwards, who was just signed, said he intends to start and believes the Jets "definitely" have playoff potential. He should help a receiving corps that failed to make even routine catches in the spring, is led by Jeremy Kerley and remains without Santonio Holmes, not yet cleared to practice (foot surgery).

This is Edwards' third stint as a Jet and he's been reunited with Kellen Winslow; the two once did nearly 2,400 receiving yards of damage with the Browns. In 2007.

"Here we are again," Edwards said, "with another chance to make some magic."

And then there's the defense, where Ryan is also trying to rework his magic with a group that has more youth, speed and versatility than in years past. It is also long on inexperience and can no longer count on Darrelle Revis, upon whom the Jets schemes were heavily dependent.

Ryan is trying to turn defensive lineman Quinton Coples into an outside linebacker, a scenario the 2012 first-round draft pick has embraced: "It's a great opportunity for me to showcase my talents."

And Ryan is trying to turn a group of young players into a defense that can overcome what are almost certain to be offensive shortcomings, even as offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg represents a considerable upgrade from Tony Sparano. (The Jets have lost 13 of their past 19 games. In 12 of the 13 losses, they have failed to score 20 points.)

Rookie Sheldon Richardson, the No. 13 overall pick, should start along the line, or contribute a lot. Fellow first-rounder Dee Milliner is expected to start opposite Cromartie, filling the Revis void. Milliner, taken ninth overall, has yet to agree to a contract and did not report Thursday, which Ryan said "disappointed" him.

The defense, ultimately, might be led by second-year linebacker DeMario Davis, the heavy favorite to replace Scott.

"It's not just an opportunity," Davis said. "It's a tremendous opportunity."

Davis provides speed and athleticism at linebacker, qualities the Jets have lacked in recent years. He got Ryan's attention early; after the Jets drafted Davis in the third round of the 2012 draft, Ryan said Davis reminded him of Ray Lewis in terms of intangibles.

Davis doesn't run from the comparison. "I don't have to try to be that," he said. "It's who I am as a leader."

Coaches, he added, want him to be more vocal with teammates, more energetic on the field. It's an adjustment Davis said he feels comfortable making in his second season.

"The coaches are counting on me not just to be a solid starter," he said, "but to be a dominant force in this league."

There was nothing boisterous about Davis' demeanor. He was speaking quietly, to an audience of one. It was as if he truly believes.

Maybe that is what the Jets need right now. It's still July. They'd better believe in themselves. Outside expectations be darned.
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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:03 PM

Nice read. 8-8 or 9-7 could very well happen if the team actually gels. My biggest concern in the O-line. If they can't protect whoever is behind Center, nothing else will matter.
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