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Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
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The Jets' Circus Has Finally Left Town

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:22 PM

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CORTLAND, N.Y. -- The 2012 New York Jets were a 3-D football team -- dysfunctional, distracted and a disaster. It was so bad that Braylon Edwards, who arrived just in time for the late-season chaos, remarked Friday that "nobody sells a mouthwash that could wash that taste out of my mouth."

Actually, there is a mouthwash for that. His name is John Idzik, the new general manager, and he's trying to change the circus culture that made the Jets a national punchline. For a change, they're putting football ahead of the sideshow, and that's a good thing. It might take some time to see the results -- the talent isn't here yet -- but the approach is sound, albeit boring.

There was absolutely no buzz as the Jets took the field for the first time on a postcard morning in upstate New York. It was a dramatic departure from last year, when 2,600 fans braved a rainstorm to watch Tim Tebow fire passes into the ground and, in the end, run shirtless to the locker room.

Ah, memories.

There was excitement and curiosity in the air that day, with ESPN's cameras recording every Tebow moment. On Friday, the only thing in the air was the smell of manure. No joke.

There were only 760 fans in the bleachers, and the media contingent was less than last year's early turnout, which numbered close to 100 -- most of them camping out to see the world's most famous backup quarterback/punt protector.

On Friday, no one cared that a linebacker named Nick Bellore had assumed Tebow's role as the personal protector. At times, practice sounded as if someone had hit the mute button. For Idzik, it was blissfully quiet. In fact, he contributed to it by declining interviews, although he's expected to speak Saturday.

"That's the way Mr. Idzik is ... he doesn't say much," said quarterback Mark Sanchez, suggesting the team has become a reflection of the GM's personality. And he meant that as a positive.

Sanchez, no doubt, is relieved he no longer has to answer questions about Tebow. The players respected Tebow and his accomplishments, but they're not upset that he's gone, off to do his thing in the land of Belichick. Calvin Pace, for one, likes the relative calm.

"I think it's better. There's no fanfare," the veteran linebacker said. "Every year it seemed like it was something -- Rex coming here, Brett Favre, Tebow. It's easier to get your work done without the constant noise.


"Tim has done great things in his career," Pace continued. "He's a product of his accomplishments, and people wanted to see him here. There's nothing wrong with that -- fans want to see their favorite player -- but it's a lot easier to concentrate with no hoopla, no disrespect to Tim."

The Jets lost control of the situation last season, mismanaging the quarterback situation and fueling a controversy that turned into an utter mess. Said Edwards: "There was so much B.S. going on that it even made [the media] sick at the end of the day."

The wild and crazy Jets are trying to adopt a buttoned-down approach. A year ago, they practically begged ESPN to show live cuts of Tebow operating the Wildcat offense. This summer, reporters are forbidden from tweeting or reporting specific formations, namely the Wildcat. News photographers are feeling the pinch as well, as their window for shooting at practice has been scaled back.

It's a Mangini-esque paranoia, but it's all part of the grand plan to change the culture. For now, everybody is buying in, but it'll be interesting to see what happens if and/or when the team starts losing games. A bad, boring team is a tough sell in the New York market.

Owner Woody Johnson won't be happy with that. Then again, he wasn't thrilled with last year's product, even though they were compelling in a butt-fumbling kind of way.

Don't mention 2012 around Ryan. He's so done with last year.

"I refuse to go back," he said. "We'll end up 6-10 again if we don't look forward."

Ryan is taking a basics approach, stressing competition, accountability and the importance of playing complementary football. In his first team meeting Thursday night, he told the players they can't expect to take the elevator to the top floor; it has to be a step-by-step journey.

In other words, no shortcuts. Finally, they get it.

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 01:10 PM

The circus was the media and the ringleader was Tebow. I'm just glad it's all done with now.
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Posted 28 July 2013 - 04:51 PM

Thank Idzik for that
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