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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:22 PM

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CORTLAND, N.Y. -- The 2012 New York Jets were a 3-D football team -- dysfunctional, distracted and a disaster. It was so bad that Braylon Edwards, who arrived just in time for the late-season chaos, remarked Friday that "nobody sells a mouthwash that could wash that taste out of my mouth."

Actually, there is a mouthwash for that. His name is John Idzik, the new general manager, and he's trying to change the circus culture that made the Jets a national punchline. For a change, they're putting football ahead of the sideshow, and that's a good thing. It might take some time to see the results -- the talent isn't here yet -- but the approach is sound, albeit boring.

There was absolutely no buzz as the Jets took the field for the first time on a postcard morning in upstate New York. It was a dramatic departure from last year, when 2,600 fans braved a rainstorm to watch Tim Tebow fire passes into the ground and, in the end, run shirtless to the locker room.

Ah, memories.

There was excitement and curiosity in the air that day, with ESPN's cameras recording every Tebow moment. On Friday, the only thing in the air was the smell of manure. No joke.

There were only 760 fans in the bleachers, and the media contingent was less than last year's early turnout, which numbered close to 100 -- most of them camping out to see the world's most famous backup quarterback/punt protector.

On Friday, no one cared that a linebacker named Nick Bellore had assumed Tebow's role as the personal protector. At times, practice sounded as if someone had hit the mute button. For Idzik, it was blissfully quiet. In fact, he contributed to it by declining interviews, although he's expected to speak Saturday.

"That's the way Mr. Idzik is ... he doesn't say much," said quarterback Mark Sanchez, suggesting the team has become a reflection of the GM's personality. And he meant that as a positive.

Sanchez, no doubt, is relieved he no longer has to answer questions about Tebow. The players respected Tebow and his accomplishments, but they're not upset that he's gone, off to do his thing in the land of Belichick. Calvin Pace, for one, likes the relative calm.

"I think it's better. There's no fanfare," the veteran linebacker said. "Every year it seemed like it was something -- Rex coming here, Brett Favre, Tebow. It's easier to get your work done without the constant noise.


"Tim has done great things in his career," Pace continued. "He's a product of his accomplishments, and people wanted to see him here. There's nothing wrong with that -- fans want to see their favorite player -- but it's a lot easier to concentrate with no hoopla, no disrespect to Tim."

The Jets lost control of the situation last season, mismanaging the quarterback situation and fueling a controversy that turned into an utter mess. Said Edwards: "There was so much B.S. going on that it even made [the media] sick at the end of the day."

The wild and crazy Jets are trying to adopt a buttoned-down approach. A year ago, they practically begged ESPN to show live cuts of Tebow operating the Wildcat offense. This summer, reporters are forbidden from tweeting or reporting specific formations, namely the Wildcat. News photographers are feeling the pinch as well, as their window for shooting at practice has been scaled back.

It's a Mangini-esque paranoia, but it's all part of the grand plan to change the culture. For now, everybody is buying in, but it'll be interesting to see what happens if and/or when the team starts losing games. A bad, boring team is a tough sell in the New York market.

Owner Woody Johnson won't be happy with that. Then again, he wasn't thrilled with last year's product, even though they were compelling in a butt-fumbling kind of way.

Don't mention 2012 around Ryan. He's so done with last year.

"I refuse to go back," he said. "We'll end up 6-10 again if we don't look forward."

Ryan is taking a basics approach, stressing competition, accountability and the importance of playing complementary football. In his first team meeting Thursday night, he told the players they can't expect to take the elevator to the top floor; it has to be a step-by-step journey.

In other words, no shortcuts. Finally, they get it.

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 01:10 PM

The circus was the media and the ringleader was Tebow. I'm just glad it's all done with now.
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Posted 28 July 2013 - 04:51 PM

Thank Idzik for that
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