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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:15 PM

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CORTLAND — Chris Ivory stood in the rain on Thursday without any worry that his troublesome hamstring that has kept him out of team drills during the first week of Jets practice will be fine.
Patience is a part of his DNA. So, he’s not sweating it.
“I have real high expectations,” Ivory told the Daily News. “Once I get out there, I’ll open some more eyes.”
Jets offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg has the unenviable task of resurrecting one of the most anemic offenses in the league from last season. His well-chronicled penchant for airing it out masks the fact that Ivory, more than anyone not named (INSERT STARTING QUARTERBACK HERE), must be the engine for the offense to flourish.
To that end, the Jets’ presumed backfield-by-committee may be more streamlined than you think. The hope is that Ivory, who has shown flashes of greatness in limited snaps during his first three seasons with the Saints, can become a three-down back, a rarity in this specialized era. “I think with a back with that skill set, you definitely want to work toward that progression,” said assistant head coach Anthony Lynn, who is in charge of running backs. “So if you needed him out there for blocking purposes or receiving purposes, you could use him.”
Mornhinweg’s pass-heavy reputation, ironically, is built on a foundation of efficiency on the ground.
The Eagles ranked first, third and seventh in yards per carry in the NFC the last three seasons under Mornhinweg. LeSean McCoy, who averaged 55 receptions and 397 receiving yards in four years with Mornhinweg, was a dual-threat centerpiece in Philadelphia’s pass-friendly scheme.
In a perfect world, Ivory, who only has 256 career regular-season carries, would provide that type of versatility this season.
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“It’s not a challenge,” said Ivory, who has averaged 5.1 yards per carry in his career. “I know I’m capable of it. Once I’m healthy, I know all those things will fall in place . . . and everybody will see the three-down back that I am.”
Ivory’s self-confidence notwithstanding, there are fair questions about whether a player with three career receptions for 32 yards in 26 games can provide that critical dimension in Mornhinweg’s West Coast system. The Jets haven’t pigeonholed Ivory, even though he has run a pass route only 78 times with five targets in his career, according to Pro Football Focus.
Eagles running backs were targeted on 16.4% of their pass plays last season (roughly the same as the Jets), but Mornhinweg’s system includes concepts that allow quarterbacks to look for pass catchers out of the backfield more often.
“More of the progressions are designed to look at the back,” Lynn said of the difference from last year’s system, which produced just 44 catches for 341 yards from running backs.

The Saints’ plethora of pass catchers turned Ivory into a predictable piece of their high-octane puzzle. New Orleans ran the ball 77% of the time he was on the field.

The Jets have other viable receiving options out of the backfield, such as Bilal Powell, Joe McKnight and Mike Goodson, whose legal and personal issues have clouded his future with the team. But Mornhinweg and Lynn believe that Ivory is more than capable of filling that role, too. He impressed with his catching ability during the Jets’ offseason program.
“Ivory catches well,” Lynn said. “Just because they didn’t throw it to him doesn’t mean he can’t catch. . . . We’ll definitely use him. I don’t know if he’s dropped a ball since he’s been here. He’s showing nothing but natural hands.”

The biggest unknown is Ivory’s ability to pick up blitzes, which won’t reveal itself until he gets back on the field.
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“I thought it would be progressing a little bit better than it has,” Rex Ryan said of Ivory and his hamstring tightness. “Hopefully, it’s just a matter of time before he gets back out there. Because we all want to see him.”
Last year, Powell was the Jets’ best back in pass protection, which gives him an edge to assume the third-down role (if Goodson is out of the picture).

Ivory’s primary value will come on first and second downs as a physical, yet elusive runner. The 6-0, 222-pound Ivory, who was acquired for a fourth-round pick in a draft-day deal, is an upgrade from the departed Shonn Greene, but he will have to stay healthy after dealing with knee, foot and hamstring issues in recent years.
“I’m mindful of it,” the 25-year-old Ivory said of finding a balance between being a physical runner and preserving his body. “It just depends on the down and situation. If we got third-and-3, I’m going (all-out).”
Ryan says that the Jets have a “receiver-friendly, tailback-friendly and quarterback-friendly” system, but it’ll be imperative to have a very productive running back to give his team a chance.
Ivory, marginalized last season in a crowded backfield that included underachieving first-round pick Mark Ingram, is a man of few words. But he’s seething inside.
“I just had to be patient,” Ivory said. “I had to deal with it and wait my turn. But it was hard.”
He paused and smiled.
“It was very hard.”



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