NYJetsFan.com Forums: Has Geno Smith Already Out Done Sanchez? - NYJetsFan.com Forums

Jump to content

Toggle shoutbox NYJETSFAN BANTER

Jets vs Chiefs Sunday 4:30est
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) HUGE game today
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) Santana PLEASE refrain from entering the BanterBox cause you are a JINX
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 01:48 PM) JETS wear the WHITE Jersey today
Resize Shouts Area

Page 1 of 1

Has Geno Smith Already Out Done Sanchez? Geno smith cleared for practice

#1 User is offline   santana Icon

  • I'm batman
  • Icon
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 7,991
  • Joined: 03-June 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Washington DC
  • Interests:Keeping this place from breaking... and titties.

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 11 August 2013 - 04:09 PM

http://espn.go.com/n...ices-sore-ankle


Quote

CORTLAND, N.Y. -- With his offensive coordinator barking, "Don't limp, don't limp," a gimpy Geno Smith took the majority of the practice reps Sunday despite an ankle injury -- perhaps an indication of how much the New York Jets want him to replace Mark Sanchez.

[+] Enlarge
AP Photo/Paul Sancya
Geno Smith took the majority of the practice reps Sunday despite a sprained ankle suffered against Detroit Friday night.
The rookie quarterback, who suffered a mild ankle sprain in the preseason opener Friday night, was cleared for practice after X-rays and an MRI exam. Smith limped noticeably at times, and his drop-backs were slower than usual, but he was determined to practice. And he got no argument from the coaches.

"Marty [Mornhinweg] told me about Brett Favre and how he played through pretty much every single injury," said Smith, referring to the Jets' coordinator, a former Green Bay Packers assistant. "I try to be the same way."

Smith acknowledged that he felt "slower," admitting his ankle was sore and less than 100 percent. But the Jets wanted to maintain their practice rotation as they move toward the second preseason game, Saturday night against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Coach Rex Ryan was non-committal about this week's starter. Sanchez started the opener, with many assuming it would be Smith in the second game. After all, it's a so-called open competition. But the coach offered a cryptic response when asked to explain his thought process.

"There could be some factors that change things," Ryan said. "I'm not going to get into the specifics, but obviously there could be some factors that change the original thought. We'll see as we get closer."

One of those factors is Smith's health. If he labors throughout the week, it could force Ryan to go again with Sanchez, which probably would effectively end the competition.

Ryan said he has no plans to name the opening-day starter before Saturday night. Chances are, he'll wait until next week. It seemed curious as to why the Jets simply didn't give Smith an extra day to rest his sore ankle. Ryan defended the decision, saying the medical staff felt there were no issues.

"When our trainers are like, 'Hey, look, he's a go' -- that's it, he's going to be out there," Ryan said. "He was cleared to practice. We'll see what he looks like [Monday]. Maybe it's different than what it looked like today, I'm not sure."


Every day of practice is critical for Smith, trying to learn an offensive system dramatically different than his college offense. He also said it was important to practice to show his new teammates he can play hurt.

"You can't miss a day of practice," he said. "I pride myself on being out there at all times, and one little ankle injury wasn't going to stop me from practicing with my teammates."

Smith began to lose ground to Sanchez last week in practice, but Sanchez had an interception returned for a touchdown in the opener -- a horrible throw on a screen pass that exasperated members of the organization. It was reminiscent of 2012, when Sanchez committed 26 turnovers.

"I said, 'Oh, shoot,'" said Ryan, deadpanning, "I said something with an S."

"He clearly made a mistake on the interception. It was a huge error. You've got to get rid of that ball," added Ryan, who wanted Sanchez to throw it away instead of trying to throw it to a fullback -- Tommy Bohanon -- who was on his knees after getting knocked down.

Sanchez almost threw another interception on his second series before rallying the offense to an 80-yard touchdown drive, hitting Jeff Cumberland for a 26-yard score. Ryan commended Sanchez on his ability to rebound, saying he liked his accuracy on the touchdown drive. After the game, Sanchez praised rookie defensive end Ziggy Ansah for making a terrific play on the interception. On Sunday, he finally admitted it was his mistake.

"If it's a dead play, it's a dead play -- just let it go and dirt it," said Sanchez, who went 10-for-13 for 125 yards.

It was a relatively nondescript performance for Smith (6-for-7, 47 yards), but he received a positive review from Ryan. The only hint of criticism was that he needs to keep two hands on the ball while moving in the pocket.

"He did some good things," Ryan said. "He showed poise. I thought he looked pretty good. He played well."

Despite the limp, Smith was sharp in practice -- well, except for one play, a red-zone interception. He called it "a pretty good day of practice."

Nyjetsfan.com Jets Fan Forum and Chat
0

#2 User is offline   SecondHandJets Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7,493
  • Joined: 28-November 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 11 August 2013 - 10:13 PM

Sanchez pretty much solidified himself as the starter with that 3rd drive.
0

#3 User is offline   RetireChrebet Icon

  • Line Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 619
  • Joined: 30-March 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NV
  • Interests:Football, mma, yanks, basketball

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 12 August 2013 - 12:00 AM

Practice? All I saw was 3 stalled drives and a twisted ankle. Sanchez wins the job hands down.
0

#4 User is offline   LeonhardSkynyrd36 Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2,854
  • Joined: 29-May 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:ATL GA
  • Interests:Progression

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 12 August 2013 - 02:56 PM

retirechrebet, you should retire instead.

How can you claim he has won a job based on his performance, classic Sanchez!

He cant even throw a successful screen pass, and his touchdown was to a wide wide wide wide wide open jeff cumberland, nothing about that stood out to me at all.

You have seen Geno throw the ball 7 times.

The ceiling for Sanchez has already arrived, Geno's potential extends far beyond that. While it is only potential, I think most Jet fans would welcome potential.
ColesReturns87
0

#5 User is offline   Mr_Jet Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,331
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth

  • NFL Team:

Posted 12 August 2013 - 03:48 PM

THE JETS SCORED A PRE-SEASON TOUCHDOWN!!!! That's what is important.

It was just one pre-season game and Sanchez has 4 years of NFL experience on Geno Smith. He is supposed to be better than Geno Smith right now. I'd be more afraid for the Jets' future if he wasn't better than Smith right now. But I'll wait until after the third pre-season game before I start getting happy about Sanchez. I'm more concerned about the running attack than I am about the QB battle anyway.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
0

#6 User is offline   santana Icon

  • I'm batman
  • Icon
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 7,991
  • Joined: 03-June 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Washington DC
  • Interests:Keeping this place from breaking... and titties.

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 12 August 2013 - 09:08 PM

Only way to satisfy the fan base is if sanchez or geno have success running the new offense. We will know that by week 2. As it stands no one should be happy that sanchez is potentially going to the starter for the jets.

So whats better 2-14 with geno smith or 8-8 with sanchez
Nyjetsfan.com Jets Fan Forum and Chat
0

#7 User is offline   SecondHandJets Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7,493
  • Joined: 28-November 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:50 AM

Sanchez will start and here's why: the offense is being run by Marty Mo, that doesn't just include the gameplan, but personnel too. Rex is basically the "HC in charge of defense". Marty is his counterpart on offense. Geno comes from a spread offense and the NFL game is moving too fast for him at this point, evidenced by the amount of "sacks" on him in camp. Sanchez on the other hand, looks to be far more polished than in the past, judging this based on his footwork which for once looked like a real NFL QB and not someone dancing salsa in the pocket. Also, this is the first time in 5 seasons that Sanchez has zero turnover at the WR position, which is huge because for once we didn't go out and get a shitty over the hill vet at the expense of a young guy making strides. Finally, and this is most important, Marty Mo has never went into a season with a rookie QB. So much of the WC offense he runs is predicated on timing and quick decision making that having a rookie in there wouldn't work. I know Sanchez isn't the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to reading defenses, but he's been baptized by fire at this point to know enough to not do dumb shit.
0

#8 User is offline   chocomag Icon

  • Drafted Rookie
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 195
  • Joined: 11-September 05

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 14 August 2013 - 02:44 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 August 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

Sanchez will start and here's why: the offense is being run by Marty Mo, that doesn't just include the gameplan, but personnel too. Rex is basically the "HC in charge of defense". Marty is his counterpart on offense. Geno comes from a spread offense and the NFL game is moving too fast for him at this point, evidenced by the amount of "sacks" on him in camp. Sanchez on the other hand, looks to be far more polished than in the past, judging this based on his footwork which for once looked like a real NFL QB and not someone dancing salsa in the pocket. Also, this is the first time in 5 seasons that Sanchez has zero turnover at the WR position, which is huge because for once we didn't go out and get a shitty over the hill vet at the expense of a young guy making strides. Finally, and this is most important, Marty Mo has never went into a season with a rookie QB. So much of the WC offense he runs is predicated on timing and quick decision making that having a rookie in there wouldn't work. I know Sanchez isn't the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to reading defenses, but he's been baptized by fire at this point to know enough to not do dumb shit.

I am amazed at all of you that think Sanchez should earn the starting spot by beating out Smith in practice. I watch lots of sports shows and the one thing that is consistent among the reporters when talking about the Jets is that they all finish with "But it's the Jets" as if that explains all of the illogical moves they make. And the sad thing is they continue to reinforce those sentiments.

Mark Sanchez is a practice player. His decision making after 4 years is atrocious - as evidenced by the INT he threw on the first series against the Lions - not unusual for him. Sure, he threw a TD to a receiver that was open by 10 yards. He didn't have to check off - he was his primary target.

Nobody believes Sanchez will be here next year with that big salary number and those low percentages and TD to INT ratios - nobody except maybe Rex. So in essence we have a lame duck QB and a rookie we need to assess. We have a team that does not figure to make the playoffs but even if they do does not have the horses to go deep into them.

When Dallas or Indy were in those situations with Aikman and Manning they played them and let them experience the speed of the game firsthand. Likewise with Luck, RG3, Wilson, Ryan, etc. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't record wise but it always works to get them the experience they need.

The Jets as sure as I am alive will elect to start Sanchez. Why? Because they are the Jets. They should start Smith. Even watching their passes, it is clear Smith has the superior arm and athleticism. So Sanchez has to rely on what to keep the job. Whatever it is I don't see it and haven't for quite awhile. What a shame
0

#9 User is offline   SecondHandJets Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7,493
  • Joined: 28-November 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 14 August 2013 - 03:55 PM

View Postchocomag, on 14 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Mark Sanchez is a practice player.


I like how people start to pull dumb shit out of thin air to support their feewings. Sanchez is a practice player? Really? How about all those 4 years of "the defense won the scrimmage"? How come every year Sanchez was dominated by our defense, now that he's throwing TDs he's a practice player? GTFOH

View Postchocomag, on 14 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

His decision making after 4 years is atrocious - as evidenced by the INT he threw on the first series against the Lions - not unusual for him. Sure, he threw a TD to a receiver that was open by 10 yards. He didn't have to check off - he was his primary target.


Every TD he throws is easy. Every INT he throws is catastrophic. Turnovers happen, that's bottom line. He needs to throw less INTs and not fumble. The knock against him has always been his completion percentage. So far from the small sample size this season, he's doing much better. I know that doesn't matter because since he threw the INT, he clearly should be shipped out of town.

View Postchocomag, on 14 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

So in essence we have a lame duck QB and a rookie we need to assess.


So you would rather start a rookie who isn't ready, didn't come from a pro offense without the benefit of having an adjustment period... for what? To see what we have? We know what we have. We have a rookie that needs time to develop. We're paying Sanchez who is in his 5th year and who, so far, has proven to be the best QB on the roster... why wouldn't we play him?

View Postchocomag, on 14 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

When Dallas or Indy were in those situations with Aikman and Manning they played them and let them experience the speed of the game firsthand. Likewise with Luck, RG3, Wilson, Ryan, etc. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't record wise but it always works to get them the experience they need.


No you idiot. Aikman, Peyton, Luck and RG3 were all Top 5 picks. They weren't guys who slipped in the draft and fell out of the 1st round completely! They were as polished a product as you can expect to get out of college. Manning and Luck were the best QBs in their classes a year BEFORE they even came out! How about Eli, Rodgers or any of the dozens of QBs that came into the league, sat and learned and ended up surpassing expectations? Why aren't you mentioning them? Because they don't serve your shitty agenda of trying to provoke an argument. Geno Smith is nowhere near the level of prospect that Aikman, Peyton, Luck and RG3 were coming out of school. There's a reason he fell in the draft.

Wilson was drafted as a project and absolutely DESTROYED Flynn in practice. You know how Geno just threw 4 INTS to the SCOUT DEFENSE in practice today? Wilson didn't do that. Wilson ran Flynn off the muthafucking field! That's what Geno needed to do to win the job, but he didn't

View Postchocomag, on 14 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

The Jets as sure as I am alive will elect to start Sanchez. Why? Because they are the Jets. They should start Smith. Even watching their passes, it is clear Smith has the superior arm and athleticism.


I think JaMarcus Russell has more arm and athleticism than any QB I've seen. Just to further drive home the point that you have zero clue.
0

Page 1 of 1


Fast Reply

  

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users