NYJetsFan.com Forums: Has Geno Smith Already Out Done Sanchez? - NYJetsFan.com Forums

Jump to content

Toggle shoutbox NYJETSFAN BANTER

JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) That's flag 101 never looking back and pushing the WR
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) How is that not PI?
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) Never looked for the ball for a second
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) Fuck this game fuck the refs fuck this team fuck the season. I'm over this shit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) That's bullshit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:43 PM) On the bright side we get to play Detroit, San Diego, NE and denver in our next 4 games
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:44 PM) Oh look the refs gave the Jets another timeout. A timeout the Jets didn't even have. SMDH
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Until we get rid of geno smith we are going nowhere. Bottom line. Dude is more erratic than romo
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) I'm really not feeling Geno Smith.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Or any other QB in the league. Trade for Sanchez Now!
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) We'd be 3-0 with Sanchez
SokeSleezy Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Geno's needs to work on his accuracy,Stafford gonna kill us next week smh
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) People saying Sanchez sucks keep in mind he never had a chance to play in morningwegs system. He was held back by shottenheimer
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:47 PM) This team will never have a franchise QB. We can't draft them and when we sign or trade for them, they're past their primes.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 09:21 AM) As a guy who has been on this site since its inception and is still not a moderator which I guess is cause I'm not part of the rat pack who runs this joint I think GENO should still be the starter.
mgjetman Icon : (Today, 10:19 AM) We still could have won this game with the bad calls. Geno just sucks. All the pick six's, missing wide open receivers, bad throws when they are fought. Stupid trick plays because they don't trust him.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:31 AM) I don't get his decision making
santana Icon : (Today, 10:32 AM) There were another 2-3 ints the bears were gifted but were dropped
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) f***
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) I had a blast at the game... just sucks we lost
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) 1-3 when I go se them
Resize Shouts Area

Page 1 of 1

Has Geno Smith Already Out Done Sanchez? Geno smith cleared for practice

#1 User is offline   santana Icon

  • I'm batman
  • Icon
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 7,780
  • Joined: 03-June 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Washington DC
  • Interests:Keeping this place from breaking... and titties.

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 11 August 2013 - 04:09 PM

http://espn.go.com/n...ices-sore-ankle


Quote

CORTLAND, N.Y. -- With his offensive coordinator barking, "Don't limp, don't limp," a gimpy Geno Smith took the majority of the practice reps Sunday despite an ankle injury -- perhaps an indication of how much the New York Jets want him to replace Mark Sanchez.

[+] Enlarge
AP Photo/Paul Sancya
Geno Smith took the majority of the practice reps Sunday despite a sprained ankle suffered against Detroit Friday night.
The rookie quarterback, who suffered a mild ankle sprain in the preseason opener Friday night, was cleared for practice after X-rays and an MRI exam. Smith limped noticeably at times, and his drop-backs were slower than usual, but he was determined to practice. And he got no argument from the coaches.

"Marty [Mornhinweg] told me about Brett Favre and how he played through pretty much every single injury," said Smith, referring to the Jets' coordinator, a former Green Bay Packers assistant. "I try to be the same way."

Smith acknowledged that he felt "slower," admitting his ankle was sore and less than 100 percent. But the Jets wanted to maintain their practice rotation as they move toward the second preseason game, Saturday night against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Coach Rex Ryan was non-committal about this week's starter. Sanchez started the opener, with many assuming it would be Smith in the second game. After all, it's a so-called open competition. But the coach offered a cryptic response when asked to explain his thought process.

"There could be some factors that change things," Ryan said. "I'm not going to get into the specifics, but obviously there could be some factors that change the original thought. We'll see as we get closer."

One of those factors is Smith's health. If he labors throughout the week, it could force Ryan to go again with Sanchez, which probably would effectively end the competition.

Ryan said he has no plans to name the opening-day starter before Saturday night. Chances are, he'll wait until next week. It seemed curious as to why the Jets simply didn't give Smith an extra day to rest his sore ankle. Ryan defended the decision, saying the medical staff felt there were no issues.

"When our trainers are like, 'Hey, look, he's a go' -- that's it, he's going to be out there," Ryan said. "He was cleared to practice. We'll see what he looks like [Monday]. Maybe it's different than what it looked like today, I'm not sure."


Every day of practice is critical for Smith, trying to learn an offensive system dramatically different than his college offense. He also said it was important to practice to show his new teammates he can play hurt.

"You can't miss a day of practice," he said. "I pride myself on being out there at all times, and one little ankle injury wasn't going to stop me from practicing with my teammates."

Smith began to lose ground to Sanchez last week in practice, but Sanchez had an interception returned for a touchdown in the opener -- a horrible throw on a screen pass that exasperated members of the organization. It was reminiscent of 2012, when Sanchez committed 26 turnovers.

"I said, 'Oh, shoot,'" said Ryan, deadpanning, "I said something with an S."

"He clearly made a mistake on the interception. It was a huge error. You've got to get rid of that ball," added Ryan, who wanted Sanchez to throw it away instead of trying to throw it to a fullback -- Tommy Bohanon -- who was on his knees after getting knocked down.

Sanchez almost threw another interception on his second series before rallying the offense to an 80-yard touchdown drive, hitting Jeff Cumberland for a 26-yard score. Ryan commended Sanchez on his ability to rebound, saying he liked his accuracy on the touchdown drive. After the game, Sanchez praised rookie defensive end Ziggy Ansah for making a terrific play on the interception. On Sunday, he finally admitted it was his mistake.

"If it's a dead play, it's a dead play -- just let it go and dirt it," said Sanchez, who went 10-for-13 for 125 yards.

It was a relatively nondescript performance for Smith (6-for-7, 47 yards), but he received a positive review from Ryan. The only hint of criticism was that he needs to keep two hands on the ball while moving in the pocket.

"He did some good things," Ryan said. "He showed poise. I thought he looked pretty good. He played well."

Despite the limp, Smith was sharp in practice -- well, except for one play, a red-zone interception. He called it "a pretty good day of practice."

Nyjetsfan.com Jets Fan Forum and Chat
0

#2 User is offline   SecondHandJets Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7,488
  • Joined: 28-November 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 11 August 2013 - 10:13 PM

Sanchez pretty much solidified himself as the starter with that 3rd drive.
0

#3 User is offline   RetireChrebet Icon

  • Line Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 580
  • Joined: 30-March 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NV
  • Interests:Football, mma, yanks, basketball

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 12 August 2013 - 12:00 AM

Practice? All I saw was 3 stalled drives and a twisted ankle. Sanchez wins the job hands down.
0

#4 User is offline   LeonhardSkynyrd36 Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2,847
  • Joined: 29-May 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:ATL GA
  • Interests:Progression

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 12 August 2013 - 02:56 PM

retirechrebet, you should retire instead.

How can you claim he has won a job based on his performance, classic Sanchez!

He cant even throw a successful screen pass, and his touchdown was to a wide wide wide wide wide open jeff cumberland, nothing about that stood out to me at all.

You have seen Geno throw the ball 7 times.

The ceiling for Sanchez has already arrived, Geno's potential extends far beyond that. While it is only potential, I think most Jet fans would welcome potential.
ColesReturns87
0

#5 User is offline   Mr_Jet Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,240
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth

  • NFL Team:

Posted 12 August 2013 - 03:48 PM

THE JETS SCORED A PRE-SEASON TOUCHDOWN!!!! That's what is important.

It was just one pre-season game and Sanchez has 4 years of NFL experience on Geno Smith. He is supposed to be better than Geno Smith right now. I'd be more afraid for the Jets' future if he wasn't better than Smith right now. But I'll wait until after the third pre-season game before I start getting happy about Sanchez. I'm more concerned about the running attack than I am about the QB battle anyway.
New York Jets
Super Bowl III Champions


Los Angeles Lakers
16-times NBA World Champions

1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
0

#6 User is offline   santana Icon

  • I'm batman
  • Icon
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 7,780
  • Joined: 03-June 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Washington DC
  • Interests:Keeping this place from breaking... and titties.

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 12 August 2013 - 09:08 PM

Only way to satisfy the fan base is if sanchez or geno have success running the new offense. We will know that by week 2. As it stands no one should be happy that sanchez is potentially going to the starter for the jets.

So whats better 2-14 with geno smith or 8-8 with sanchez
Nyjetsfan.com Jets Fan Forum and Chat
0

#7 User is offline   SecondHandJets Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7,488
  • Joined: 28-November 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:50 AM

Sanchez will start and here's why: the offense is being run by Marty Mo, that doesn't just include the gameplan, but personnel too. Rex is basically the "HC in charge of defense". Marty is his counterpart on offense. Geno comes from a spread offense and the NFL game is moving too fast for him at this point, evidenced by the amount of "sacks" on him in camp. Sanchez on the other hand, looks to be far more polished than in the past, judging this based on his footwork which for once looked like a real NFL QB and not someone dancing salsa in the pocket. Also, this is the first time in 5 seasons that Sanchez has zero turnover at the WR position, which is huge because for once we didn't go out and get a shitty over the hill vet at the expense of a young guy making strides. Finally, and this is most important, Marty Mo has never went into a season with a rookie QB. So much of the WC offense he runs is predicated on timing and quick decision making that having a rookie in there wouldn't work. I know Sanchez isn't the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to reading defenses, but he's been baptized by fire at this point to know enough to not do dumb shit.
0

#8 User is offline   chocomag Icon

  • Drafted Rookie
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 192
  • Joined: 11-September 05

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 14 August 2013 - 02:44 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 August 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

Sanchez will start and here's why: the offense is being run by Marty Mo, that doesn't just include the gameplan, but personnel too. Rex is basically the "HC in charge of defense". Marty is his counterpart on offense. Geno comes from a spread offense and the NFL game is moving too fast for him at this point, evidenced by the amount of "sacks" on him in camp. Sanchez on the other hand, looks to be far more polished than in the past, judging this based on his footwork which for once looked like a real NFL QB and not someone dancing salsa in the pocket. Also, this is the first time in 5 seasons that Sanchez has zero turnover at the WR position, which is huge because for once we didn't go out and get a shitty over the hill vet at the expense of a young guy making strides. Finally, and this is most important, Marty Mo has never went into a season with a rookie QB. So much of the WC offense he runs is predicated on timing and quick decision making that having a rookie in there wouldn't work. I know Sanchez isn't the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to reading defenses, but he's been baptized by fire at this point to know enough to not do dumb shit.

I am amazed at all of you that think Sanchez should earn the starting spot by beating out Smith in practice. I watch lots of sports shows and the one thing that is consistent among the reporters when talking about the Jets is that they all finish with "But it's the Jets" as if that explains all of the illogical moves they make. And the sad thing is they continue to reinforce those sentiments.

Mark Sanchez is a practice player. His decision making after 4 years is atrocious - as evidenced by the INT he threw on the first series against the Lions - not unusual for him. Sure, he threw a TD to a receiver that was open by 10 yards. He didn't have to check off - he was his primary target.

Nobody believes Sanchez will be here next year with that big salary number and those low percentages and TD to INT ratios - nobody except maybe Rex. So in essence we have a lame duck QB and a rookie we need to assess. We have a team that does not figure to make the playoffs but even if they do does not have the horses to go deep into them.

When Dallas or Indy were in those situations with Aikman and Manning they played them and let them experience the speed of the game firsthand. Likewise with Luck, RG3, Wilson, Ryan, etc. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't record wise but it always works to get them the experience they need.

The Jets as sure as I am alive will elect to start Sanchez. Why? Because they are the Jets. They should start Smith. Even watching their passes, it is clear Smith has the superior arm and athleticism. So Sanchez has to rely on what to keep the job. Whatever it is I don't see it and haven't for quite awhile. What a shame
0

#9 User is offline   SecondHandJets Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7,488
  • Joined: 28-November 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 14 August 2013 - 03:55 PM

View Postchocomag, on 14 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Mark Sanchez is a practice player.


I like how people start to pull dumb shit out of thin air to support their feewings. Sanchez is a practice player? Really? How about all those 4 years of "the defense won the scrimmage"? How come every year Sanchez was dominated by our defense, now that he's throwing TDs he's a practice player? GTFOH

View Postchocomag, on 14 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

His decision making after 4 years is atrocious - as evidenced by the INT he threw on the first series against the Lions - not unusual for him. Sure, he threw a TD to a receiver that was open by 10 yards. He didn't have to check off - he was his primary target.


Every TD he throws is easy. Every INT he throws is catastrophic. Turnovers happen, that's bottom line. He needs to throw less INTs and not fumble. The knock against him has always been his completion percentage. So far from the small sample size this season, he's doing much better. I know that doesn't matter because since he threw the INT, he clearly should be shipped out of town.

View Postchocomag, on 14 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

So in essence we have a lame duck QB and a rookie we need to assess.


So you would rather start a rookie who isn't ready, didn't come from a pro offense without the benefit of having an adjustment period... for what? To see what we have? We know what we have. We have a rookie that needs time to develop. We're paying Sanchez who is in his 5th year and who, so far, has proven to be the best QB on the roster... why wouldn't we play him?

View Postchocomag, on 14 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

When Dallas or Indy were in those situations with Aikman and Manning they played them and let them experience the speed of the game firsthand. Likewise with Luck, RG3, Wilson, Ryan, etc. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't record wise but it always works to get them the experience they need.


No you idiot. Aikman, Peyton, Luck and RG3 were all Top 5 picks. They weren't guys who slipped in the draft and fell out of the 1st round completely! They were as polished a product as you can expect to get out of college. Manning and Luck were the best QBs in their classes a year BEFORE they even came out! How about Eli, Rodgers or any of the dozens of QBs that came into the league, sat and learned and ended up surpassing expectations? Why aren't you mentioning them? Because they don't serve your shitty agenda of trying to provoke an argument. Geno Smith is nowhere near the level of prospect that Aikman, Peyton, Luck and RG3 were coming out of school. There's a reason he fell in the draft.

Wilson was drafted as a project and absolutely DESTROYED Flynn in practice. You know how Geno just threw 4 INTS to the SCOUT DEFENSE in practice today? Wilson didn't do that. Wilson ran Flynn off the muthafucking field! That's what Geno needed to do to win the job, but he didn't

View Postchocomag, on 14 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

The Jets as sure as I am alive will elect to start Sanchez. Why? Because they are the Jets. They should start Smith. Even watching their passes, it is clear Smith has the superior arm and athleticism.


I think JaMarcus Russell has more arm and athleticism than any QB I've seen. Just to further drive home the point that you have zero clue.
0

Page 1 of 1


Fast Reply

  

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users