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Jets win 3-1. Beat dolphins so bad that philbin isnt allowed back from england.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:46 PM) You got to think Revis has also never had this much talent around him
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:48 PM) all 3 of our wins we pretty much dominated in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:48 PM) Our defense has allowed the leagues best 13 PPG
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:49 PM) We beat us against Philly
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:50 PM) 4 turnovers and a Punt return TD
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:58 PM) If fitz can be smart with the ball and Marshall Decker and Ivory and stay healthy I think we can beat anyone
santana Icon : (05 October 2015 - 02:36 PM) http://www.sun-senti...1005-story.html
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:16 PM) I get it to a point why everyone is making a big deal about that missed call because difference between a win and a loss but I have never seen that call made in over 30 years of watching NFL so I guarantee that none of the fans , coaches or players new the rule. Yes the refs should know all the rules but they aren't computers and it's impossible for them to remember all the 1000's of rules. Especially an old rule no one but the officials ever heard of before. 22 new officials didn't help either. It took an old long time official now retired from officiating to tell the world the rule. Everyone and the officials will remember that rule from now on after all the media
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:27 PM) Lions fans are b*tching like hell about it. We would be if it happened to us but I think it's a bad rule any way and should be scrapped. If the defense causes the offensive player to fumble in the end zone because the defense makes a good play I personally think it would be bullshit to give the fumbling team the ball back. If the ball went out of bounds on its own or if a player tried to recover it and the ball went out of the end zone it's not a penalty. Both cases are a touchback so I feel that giving the ball back to the offense that fumbled it because of the defense batting the ball out of the end zone if the offense recovered the ball it would be a td so it would be bullshit to give them the ball back because of a simple ball bat. Rule should really be changed
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:30 PM) It's ok for the offense to deliberately take a safety to prevent a TD and only give up 2 points an benefit themselves so yeah I think it is an old out of date rule that should be thrown out. If the d makes a great play they shouldn't have to give the offense the ball back because of a stupid rule
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:30 PM) So I'm glad it wasn't called
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:31 PM) Hope it's changed next year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:31 PM) it's been called a ton of times, they showed a montage o ESPN last night of a bunch of times it's been called
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:33 PM) just because one player made a great play, doesn't mean you can excuse someone making a bonehead play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:34 PM) chancellor made a great play (remember when i wanted the jets to draft him?) but the LBer should have not illegally batted it, he could have tried to recover it or body blocked det from recovering.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:34 PM) Not sure what ESPN you had on ESPN China? I left ESPN on for 2 hours after the game and I never seen this montage you say. I'm calling you out as bullshit. Show me a video of proof
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:38 PM) Even the old ESPN official couldn't remember an instance of it being called. It isn't the same as the offense backing out of the end zone with the ball or being sacked in the end zone for a safety. Completely different rule and situation. I've never seen it called and I watch at least 6 games at a time a week. None of the ESPN announcer players, Ray Lewis, Dilfer, or Young even knew the rule and that's over 20 years of NFL experience. Yet none of them knew or understood the rule until it was explained in detail
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:40 PM) I've never once seen the ball given back to to offense so I challenge you to show me this montage you claim was on. If I didn't see it for two hours I after the game I'm calling bullshit on your end
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:43 PM) Say whatever you want but show me proof or just leave it be because I won't believe you without a bunch of video proof. I have a hell of a memory and if it ever was called maybe once or twice in the past 30 years but no way there is some montage
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:48 PM) Nether coach knew the rule either and they would know more of the rules than the players and fans. If not for a retired official bringing it up it probably would've never even been brought up at all
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:58 PM) I highly questionable is on now and they are even saying no one knew the rule or complained until they were told the rule.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 04:05 PM) I have seen plenty of games where defenders did knock the ball out of the end zone like the situation last night to prevent any possible touchdown not disputing that because that has happened a good many times. My point is I've never seen a flag thrown for it and the ball given to the offense. It's definitely an obsolete rule that should be thrown out. The NFL has made the rules so offensive friendly these days it's hard to play defense with out calls anymore. That is just one more bullshit rule to help the offense. Take the Jets Dolphins game for instance. Those bullshit pi calls against our defense for clearly uncatchable balls. Pi never should've never been called giving up like 60 yards on two calls and a td that never would've happened. At most they should've been 5 yard holding calls. Never would've been mad if they just called them holding calls.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 04:06 PM) Anyway I'm tired of all these offense friendly rules these days screwing over the defenses. It's starting to get like non touch flag football for the defenses.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 04:11 PM) You know it too. Our team has been a defensive team for well over a decade and so many bullshit calls have been called against our defense because of the new offensive friendly rules. So I say screw Detroit. I'm glad it wasn't called and a defense gets a break
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 06:37 PM) call em a liar if you want, but I seen it man
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 12:52 AM) guess I should enable a character limit for the shoutbox
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 12:53 AM) getting a bit out of hand
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) Rob you're brutal
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:30 PM) Who should I start this week in fantasy football? Its a PPR league. I can start 3 of the WRs Edelman-/D-Thomas/Mike Evans/James Jones
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:30 PM) Edelman and Thomas are must start
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:31 PM) So do I start Evans against Jax or James Jones vs STL
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) jones. winston likes jackson more then evans
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 01:47 PM) My two year old daughter is less manic and is able to maintain her composure much better than someone we know here ....
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
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32 Teams in 32 Days: NY Jets
Gordon McGuinness | August 19, 2013

It’s hard to imagine that this is the same franchise that went to back-to-back AFC Championship games in 2009 and 2010. Yet the very same New York Jets come into the 2013 season off the back of 6-10 year which was more memorable for the farcical play and handling of a quarterback situation that seemed to ruin the rare moments when they looked to be building any kind of momentum in games.

Head Coach Rex Ryan knows that he needs to take the team forward this year if he wants to stick around in New York but he faces plenty of challenges as he attempts to level the wings. The quarterback position is once again under scrutiny but the team does still have enough bright spots for fans to be encouraged by. With that in mind, let’s take a look at the reasons for Jets fans to be confident, and concerned, in this upcoming campaign.

Reasons to be Confident

1. Improvements at Running Back?

The first good news for Jets fans at the running back position was the subtraction of Shonn Greene, who departed for Tennessee during Free Agency. His 11.7 Elusive Rating was the lowest among all running backs with enough qualifying snaps. That highlights just how little he did beyond the work of his offensive line, which performed particularly well in 2012. The team added two players who have shown their ability in that regard in Mike Goodson and Chris Ivory. Goodson’s future with the team isn’t necessarily secure with his off-the-field troubles already causing him problems in New York. In limited action in Oakland a year ago he showed he could be a difference maker on the field. Likewise for Ivory who, despite injury concerns, has Jets fans excited about what he can bring to the offense in New York. He forced 12 missed tackles on just 40 carries and averaged a somewhat ridiculous 4.73 Yards After Contact Per Carry in New Orleans in 2012.

2. Muhammad Wilkerson

Jets defensive lineman Muhammad Wilkerson has received plenty of hype in the weeks leading up to the 2013 preseason, with many believing he’s primed for a breakout year this coming season. The truth, however, is that he broke out in 2012, finishing the year with the second highest grade (+49.1) we’ve ever given to a 3-4 defensive end. Had it not been for Houston’s J.J. Watt re-writing the rules on what to expect for a player at the position, Wilkerson would have likely gotten more credit for what was a fantastic season. He finished the year with 54 defensive stops, 13 more than any 3-4 defensive end not named Watt. We may disagree on whether or not this year will be a breakout or not, but we fully expect a fantastic season from the best player on the Jets roster in 2013.

3. Cromartie Stepping Up

While the loss of Revis definitely hurts the Jets, more on that later, the significance of the loss is lessened by how well Antonio Cromartie (+10.0) has played in recent times. Up and down for much of his career, he heads into 2013 coming off his best season, allowing just 46% of the 87 passes thrown into his coverage to be completed in 2012. He finished 2012 allowing a quarterback rating of just 69.7 on those 87 throws, breaking up 12 passes and picking off another three along the way. There are plenty of areas to be concerned about on the Jets roster this year, but they’ll be confident in the abilities of their top cornerback.

4. Consistency from D’Brickashaw

Consistency isn’t a word that’s been used to describe the Jets often in recent times, at least not in a positive sense, but D’Brickashaw Ferguson has consistently been among the best left tackles in the league. The lowest he’s graded over a season in the PFF era is +12.2 and that was a “down year” for the former fourth overall draft pick, with three seasons where he has finished the year graded at +30.0 or higher. He doesn’t wow you with his run blocking, but as a pass blocker he has given the Jets quarterbacks, as bad as they have been, ample time from pass rushers trying to get past him. Whoever the Jets opt for under center in 2013 will go into the year knowing they can rely on Ferguson to keep them safe on the field.

5. Youth Brings Hope

It probably says a lot about where the Jets are headed this season but one of the most exciting things to watch about the team is how their prominent youngsters play this coming season. Their top two draft picks, defensive lineman Sheldon Richardson and Dee Milliner looked solid, if unspectacular, in their preseason debuts a week ago. Second year man Quinton Coples showed flashes as a rookie and, even though we were told he’d be moving to outside linebacker, he still played with his hand in the dirt more in the preseason opener. Add in the excitement around a high draft pick being spent on a rookie quarterback in Geno Smith and you can see why fans are beginning to hope again after a rough couple of seasons.

Reasons to be Concerned

1. Mark Sanchez

While there is optimism surrounding Smith arriving in New York, the same can’t be said for the continued presence of Mark Sanchez. It’s at that stage now, and has been for a while to be fair, where it’s difficult to understand why he’s still in the mix for a starting job, considering how bad he has been. He’s been in the league for four years and has a cumulative PFF grade of (-80.1) in that time, while his best season saw him grade out at a meager -7.2! There are certain mistakes that teams can live with from young quarterbacks, for some of them its part of the process they go through as they develop but this has gone on for four years now. Four years down the line and we still see the same mistakes from Sanchez. It looked as if the team was at least looking to replace him both short term and long term when they added David Garrard in free agency before drafting Smith, but that was ruined by Garrard’s injuries proving too much for him to come back from. Now they are left with the options of starting a second round rookie or rolling the dice on Sanchez again when they already know which side it will land on.

2. The Loss of Revis

We touched earlier on how the play of Cromartie has lessened the loss of star cornerback Darrelle Revis however, as much as his play can limit the loss, the fact can’t be avoided is that losing one of the best players in football hurts the Jets this year. Maybe it was the right time given the circumstances, and they were at least able to recoup significant draft picks in the deal that sent him to Tampa Bay, but we all know just how good a player Revis was before his injury. Provided he can return to that form, and unless Milliner can become a great player quickly, this one is going to leave a bitter taste in the mouths of Jets fans for some time yet.

3. Targets on Offense?

While it’s bad enough to have Sanchez potentially under center again, it’s even worse when you look at who he’ll be throwing the ball to. Santonio Holmes, the team’s best receiver, missed all but four games in 2012 and his status for the beginning of this coming season is still in question. Second year man Stephen Hill got fans excited with two touchdowns and 89 yards in the season opener against the Buffalo Bills last year but proceeded to add just one touchdown the rest of the year while dropping six of the 46 passes thrown his way. Braylon Edwards returned to New York late last year but hasn’t shown anything to get even remotely excited about since 2010, so it all adds up to a pretty concerning Jets passing game as we head towards the season opener.

4. Replacing the Grinders

Given the circus that has been the New York Jets in the Rex Ryan era, it’s not surprising that players like Brandon Moore and Mike DeVito weren’t recognized more, but with both gone, their absence will likely be noticeable. Moore was one of the league’s best guards for a number of years and, despite still playing at a high level, opted to retire and go out on his terms. DeVito on the other hand, headed for Kansas City in Free Agency, taking with him his 27 defensive stops in 2012. Never a flashy player, DeVito has been a solid member of that defense since his arrival and the Jets may find his steady production harder to replace than they’d like to admit.

5. The New England Patriots and Company

It’s the same for every team other team in the AFC East, with all three heading into the season knowing that, once again, the New England Patriots are the team to beat in the division. They may not be without their issues, the receiver position in particular coming under increasing scrutiny just now, but as long as they have Tom Brady at the helm they seem to be a Super Bowl contender. Adding to that steady headache are the improvements made by the Bills and the Miami Dolphins and suddenly the Jets are fighting to avoid landing at the basement of the division again. There aren’t any easy division in the NFL, but once again the specter of New England looms large in the East and the Jets know they’ll face a tough battle to unseat them as division champions.

What to Expect

There’s no denying that the Jets have added players worth getting excited about to their roster this offseason but there are no guarantees that they’ll find themselves better off come the season’s end. The role players that have arrived all have the potential to improve the team but it all comes down to what they have at the quarterback position.

Smith is an unknown quality and, however unlikely it may be, should he have the type of season we saw from the top rookie quarterbacks a year ago, the Jets would likely find themselves contending for a playoff spot. That’s a big ask however and, if Sanchez winds up getting the nod again, expect the Jets defense to keep them close only for them to lose plenty of games off the back of his mistakes.


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