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ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) 1 week till we are 1-0
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) we need to annihilate the GAYders
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:28 PM) We claimed McFadden from the Browns. Knows the system should be able to contribute right away
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:29 PM) Watching the Browns game now. Playing all three CB spots. Looks OK. A little grabby although he has not been called for it
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:30 PM) Might be a little aggressive and get burnt over top
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Holmes Was Cleared To Begin Football Activities

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:07 AM

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Santonio Holmes says he is not any closer to playing, and patience is wearing thin around the Jets.

An organizational source said many people around the team believe the mercurial wide receiver is just trying to avoid training camp and he is healthier than he is letting on. In fact, a source said Dr. Robert Anderson, the foot specialist in North Carolina who operated on Holmes, has cleared Holmes to begin football activities, but Holmes has resisted.

Holmes claims he cannot run routes yet and will not give any timetable for his return. It has been 11 months since Holmes suffered a Lisfranc injury in his left foot that required two surgeries. Holmes said he still feels pain in the foot every day when he wakes up.

“I can’t pinpoint a day when it will feel better because every day has been the same up until this point,” Holmes said. “I feel good some days. I don’t the others. This pain won’t go away. It’s something I can’t predict because I have to get up and I have to run. I have to cut. I have to put pressure on it and apply as much pressure as I can to run routes and to feel comfortable.”

There is a theory around the Jets that Holmes will suddenly pronounce himself ready to play when the regular season arrives in two weeks and training camp is through. Holmes also missed most of last year’s training camp with what was listed as “general body soreness” and then a rib injury.

Others inside the Jets think Holmes could wait to see how the team starts the season before deciding when to play. If the team is losing, he may wait a while. If things are going well, he will join the party.

Officially, the Jets have said Holmes has not been cleared by the doctors.

“He seems excited,” coach Rex Ryan said. “I think that’s a good sign. Again, he’s going to lean on the trainers. We’re all going to lean on the trainers and the doctors. When they say he’s ready to go, he’ll be champing at the bit. I can tell you that right now. He’s in great shape.”

Holmes did some running on the field before last weekend’s preseason game with the Jaguars, which made some speculate he was close to returning. Holmes downplayed that idea.

“What you seen on Saturday at the game wasn’t anything in particular extra,” Holmes said. “It was just giving it a try and seeing what I can do.”

The Jets open the season against the Buccaneers on Sept. 8. Holmes said he does not think it’s unrealistic he will be able to play then. Asked if he is holding out hope to be on the field that day, Holmes said, “Why would I hold out anything? If I can go, I will go. If I can’t, I can’t.”

It has been 11 months since Holmes suffered the injury in Week against the 49ers. By comparison, Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew suffered a Lisfranc injury a month after Holmes and has been participating in training camp. He returned to the field last week against the Jets, something members of the organization took note of.

Holmes’ status is like a guessing game around the Jets. While some wonder if he’ll be back in two weeks, others think it could be October.

General manager John Idzik said he was hopeful Holmes is close to returning this week and Ryan has repeatedly praised Holmes’ work rehabbing from the injury.

Holmes seems to be tempering any optimism though and had an interesting response when told Ryan said he looks like he’s in great shape.

“Looks can be deceiving,” Holmes said. “I say that with a smile because if I actually felt as good as I look, I’d definitely be 100 percent ready.”

At the moment, Holmes said he is unable to “be at Santonio Holmes’ level of competition.” He won’t even commit to returning this season.

“I don’t know how to answer that question as far as missing the whole season,” he said. “We have 16 weeks of football. At any point, I could be ready to play and if not I’d be willing to accept it.“

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:47 AM

Never really liked Santonio much due to his immaturity. With that said he is a veteran in the NFL and kniws his body better than anyone. Frankly I could care less as long as he's ready to go physically early n the year. It's not like he's going to forget how to play by missing training camp.
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:49 AM

So it's all speculation? I see no reason for him to not play if he's healthy and comfortable with his foot especially since this is a contract year for him. The injury is a serious one and yesterday he was saying that his foot was in pain. I could see him being medically clear but refusing to play due to pain. But then again, this could just be Holmes being Holmes and nothing would surprise me.
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:38 PM

There is a theory around the Jets that Holmes will suddenly pronounce himself ready to play when the regular season arrives in two weeks and training camp is through. Holmes also missed most of last year’s training camp with what was listed as “general body soreness” and then a rib injury.

Others inside the Jets think Holmes could wait to see how the team starts the season before deciding when to play. If the team is losing, he may wait a while. If things are going well, he will join the party.

These ideas seem to be coming from 'inside the Jets'. I'd like to know who but I don't like the sound of it at first glance. Hope I'm wrong. We had another guy miss training camp and then blew out the entire season 'cause he wasn't in game shape. If it is gamesmanship by Holmes the coaches should keep him out until they are absolutely sure he's 100%. Getting tired of primadonna players. Guys who blow hot and cold don't do the team any favours.

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:27 PM

View Postcanuckfan, on 22 August 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

There is a theory around the Jets that Holmes will suddenly pronounce himself ready to play when the regular season arrives in two weeks and training camp is through. Holmes also missed most of last year's training camp with what was listed as "general body soreness" and then a rib injury.

Others inside the Jets think Holmes could wait to see how the team starts the season before deciding when to play. If the team is losing, he may wait a while. If things are going well, he will join the party.

These ideas seem to be coming from 'inside the Jets'. I'd like to know who but I don't like the sound of it at first glance. Hope I'm wrong. We had another guy miss training camp and then blew out the entire season 'cause he wasn't in game shape. If it is gamesmanship by Holmes the coaches should keep him out until they are absolutely sure he's 100%. Getting tired of primadonna players. Guys who blow hot and cold don't do the team any favours.


I think the coaches should keep him out until he's 100% anyway regardless of whether Holmes is toying with them. I think that's in the best interest of Holmes and the Jets as Holmes would be in the best position to make the most of a contract year and we'd get the best out of Holmes.
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:22 AM

this is just bad reporting and stupidity. the doctor clears him or not. the team doctors make the choice. its not like the doctor cleared and but holmes is saying he isn't ready. the jets staff has not cleared him yet,
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 02:59 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 23 August 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

this is just bad reporting and stupidity. the doctor clears him or not. the team doctors make the choice. its not like the doctor cleared and but holmes is saying he isn't ready. the jets staff has not cleared him yet,


Naw, I mean Derrick Rose situation isn't even real. It's just bad reporting and stupidity.
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