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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 12:52 PM

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Seahawks
11-5

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Last Week: 1 Russell Wilson and a dominant defense get headlines, but Marshawn Lynch and rookie Christine Michael will give the Seahawks balance. It's Super Bowl or bust in Seattle.
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Falcons
13-3

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Last Week: 4 The best offensive skill players in the league won't matter if the offensive line struggles. The departures of Todd McClure and Tyson Clabo leave big holes to fill up front.
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49ers
11-4-1

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Last Week: 2 No Michael Crabtree hurts, but Anquan Boldin and rookie Quinton Patton look ready. As for the defense, rookie Eric Reid, Glenn Dorsey and Nnamdi Asomugha join an already fearsome unit.
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Broncos
13-3

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Last Week: 3 Missing Von Miller for six games will hurt, especially with Elvis Dumervil in Baltimore. At least the Broncos' offense looks more than capable of picking up the slack.
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Packers
11-5

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Last Week: 5 The Packers haven't had a 100-yard rusher in 43 straight regular-season games, more than twice as long as any other team. Is Eddie Lacy or Johnathan Franklin the answer?
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Patriots
12-4

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Last Week: 6 With Gronk's injury and Wes Welker gone, the Pats' offense rests on Tom Brady's chemistry with undrafted rookies Zach Sudfeld and Kenbrell Thompkins.
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Texans
12-4

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Last Week: 7 How healthy is Arian Foster? Foster's 15 rushing touchdowns led the league last season, but his yards-per-rush average has dropped each year since 2010.
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Ravens
10-6

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Last Week: 8 Baltimore lost six Super Bowl starters and Paul Kruger on defense, but quietly reloaded. A defensive draft, plus Elvis Dumervil and Daryl Smith, will keep the Ravens' D formidable.
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Bengals
10-6

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Last Week: 9 Andy Dalton has to handle the blitz better to win in the AFC North. Dalton was sacked a league-high 20 times facing at least five rushers last season.
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Redskins
10-6

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Last Week: 11 Will the Redskins change their offense to protect RG III? Griffin was hit 101 times between sacks and rushes last season, second to Cam Newton among quarterbacks.
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Colts
11-5

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Last Week: 10 New offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton established the run at Stanford to open up his tight ends in the passing game. Expect big things from Dwayne Allen and Coby Fleener.
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Giants
9-7

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Last Week: 12 As injuries pile up for Big Blue, no unit has been hit harder than the offensive line. Playing without center David Baas and tackle David Diehl will be tough.
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Saints
7-9

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Last Week: 14 Rob Ryan wants to bring the blitz back to New Orleans. The Saints sent added pressure on half of drop-backs from 2009-11, most in the league.
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Bears
10-6

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Last Week: 13 New offensive-minded head coach Marc Trestman has work to do. The Bears' offense has finished above the bottom 10 in total yards once in the past 11 years.
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Rams
7-8-1

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Last Week: 15 With upgrades at tackle, tight end and hopefully wide receiver, how long is Sam Bradford's leash? Bradford has never finished a season above 21st in Total QBR.
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Steelers
8-8

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Last Week: 16 Guy Whimper is the only offseason addition for the Steelers' offensive line, which produced a league-worst 1.7 yards before contact per rush last season.
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Vikings
10-6

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Last Week: 17 Eric Dickerson's single-season rushing record survived Adrian Peterson's onslaught by 8 yards last year. In 2013, it might not be so lucky.
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Cowboys
8-8

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Last Week: 20 The defense ranked last in QBR allowed on throws deeper than 10 yards downfield last season. Monte Kiffin's Tampa 2 will help cornerbacks Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne.
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Chiefs
2-14

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Last Week: 22 Andy Reid's Chiefs are more talented than last year's 2-14 record indicates. Top pick Eric Fisher, Alex Smith, Jamaal Charles and Dwayne Bowe provide a foundation for offensive improvement.
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Dolphins
7-9

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Last Week: 18 Ryan Tannehill has a new toy. No player has more receiving touchdowns at least 20 yards downfield since 2009 than new Dolphins wideout Mike Wallace.
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Lions
4-12

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Last Week: 24 Get in the end zone! Lions receivers were tackled 23 times at or inside the 5-yard line, at least five more than anyone else.
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Buccaneers
7-9

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Last Week: 19 In a division with Brees, Ryan and Newton, it's no surprise the Bucs upgraded defensive backs. Darrelle Revis, Dashon Goldson and Johnthan Banks will fortify the secondary.
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Panthers
7-9

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Last Week: 21 Panthers running backs are the sixth-most expensive unit in the league, yet QB Cam Newton led the team in rush yards and touchdowns. Carolina needs more from its rushing unit.
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Chargers
7-9

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Last Week: 23 With limited offensive weapons and seven defensive starters gone from Week 1 last season, new coach Mike McCoy faces a transition year.
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Eagles
4-12

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Last Week: 25 The Chip Kelly experiment begins with Michael Vick under center. Kelly's Oregon team averaged 20.9 seconds per play last season, four seconds faster than the NFL's fastest team (Patriots).
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Cardinals
5-11

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Last Week: 26 Not a good start for the revamped offensive line. Guard Jonathan Cooper, Arizona's seventh overall pick in April, will miss the season with a broken leg.
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Titans
6-10

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Last Week: 27 Chance Warmack and Andy Levitre will beef up the Titans' offensive line, but consistency under center is a problem. Jake Locker has never played 12 games in a season.
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Browns
5-11

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Last Week: 28 Brandon Weeden had the fifth-worst Total QBR on throws at least 15 yards downfield last year, but new offensive coordinator Norv Turner isn't shy about throwing deep.
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Jaguars
2-14

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Last Week: 31 The Jaguars ranked 28th in Total QBR and last in QBR allowed last year. Luke Joeckel is a building block for a team with plenty of room for improvement.
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Bills
6-10

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Last Week: 30 Jeff Tuel is the starter (for now). Tuel ranked 64th in FBS in opponent-adjusted Total QBR last season at Washington State and gets the Pats in Week 1.
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Raiders
4-12

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Last Week: 29 The Raiders' defense had a league-low 12 sacks with four or fewer rushers last season. That's just one problem of many on both sides of the ball.
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Jets
6-10

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Last Week: 32 Muhammad Wilkerson is a bright spot for Gang Green. Wilkerson's 70 tackles last year trailed only J.J. Watt among defensive linemen. Other than that, it's not pretty.
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 02:17 PM

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 02:31 PM

Queue the "we get no respect!!" posts
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 02:42 PM

lol were bad,but noway are we worse then cle, jax, buff, oak, arizona. I'd say bere maybe bottom 6-8 but not even bottom 5 let along last
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 03:25 PM

f*** them!! The best thing about the NFL is any team can turn it all around in 1 year.

I cant wait for Sunday!! Time to start to shock the world from worst to first. LETS GO JETS!!!
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 03:50 PM

They wouldn't get the buzz if they put the Jaguars or Raiders last.
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 04:11 PM

Honestly I feel this is spot on. A lot of you guys are being homers without even realizing it. This team is terrible. No way in hell they compete for a damn thing. If I am wrong I will happily eat my crow but Like I've been saying in the shower box I only see a 4-12 season at the very best
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 04:25 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 03 September 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

Honestly I feel this is spot on. A lot of you guys are being homers without even realizing it. This team is terrible. No way in hell they compete for a damn thing. If I am wrong I will happily eat my crow but Like I've been saying in the shower box I only see a 4-12 season at the very best


So you think we are the worst team in the league?

I fail to see how we got worse from last season.
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 04:30 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 03 September 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

So you think we are the worst team in the league?


The Jets are awful enough that I'm not going to dispute the ranking. You definitely can't say you improved your team over the course of an offseason if you traded away the best defensive player in the game. If I were putting something like this together I would probably have them between 29-31. That's not to say that it is somebody's specific fault that's currently with the team or anything like that, but It is going to take an absolute ton of time to get this team back to a respectable level. I like the small steps that are being taken so far, it just isn't the Jets time
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 04:40 PM

I think how good we are all depends on the QB. If he makes mistakes like in years past, that will hurt us. We lost some games last year due to bad QB play, but our offensive scheme was also by far the worst in the league. A lot is yet to be determined, but I'm not going to give up on this season just because the media says so. Anything can happen and I really believe that we have a good coaching staff in place. If we were to ahve the 1st pick, last year was the year with how bad things were.
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 04:55 PM

OH WOW, The Pats are going 12-4? That is f***ing hilarious, and I say that because of the injuries and loss of personnel!?

That just shows that ESPN is sucking on Brady's Cock as usual.
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 05:39 PM

I hope the Jets win the first two just to see how much of a jump they make. I'm stick with my usual prediction - 16-0 and #32 will be their pick in the 2014 Draft. I may be wrong but f*** being a pessimistic fan, I have other things in my life to be stressed over. Go Jets!
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 06:01 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 03 September 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

The Jets are awful enough that I'm not going to dispute the ranking. You definitely can't say you improved your team over the course of an offseason if you traded away the best defensive player in the game. If I were putting something like this together I would probably have them between 29-31. That's not to say that it is somebody's specific fault that's currently with the team or anything like that, but It is going to take an absolute ton of time to get this team back to a respectable level. I like the small steps that are being taken so far, it just isn't the Jets time


While I agree with most f your points, trading away Revis is irrelevant when comparing last years team to this years. Revis didn't appear but in a few games and we still won 6. Our defense will be light years better than last years team w the addition of dee( replacing wilson who is god awful) and Richardson. Losing Bart Scott and Bryan Thomas instantly made our LB's corps much better. I honestly think the D will keep us in games and we finish with 7 or 8 wins.

I fully expect our offense to be terrible but with the additions of Marty and some new players who knows who could break out? Besides our schedule is weak as shit.
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 09:35 PM

didnt they rank as just as bad Sanchez's first two years,let them!!! Ride that disrespect all the way to the Superbowl!
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 10:25 PM

I could care less what ESPN thinks really. No need to get bent out of shape. The Jets have a lot to prove and just like any team ....no one really knows how they will finish the season record wise. If Geno gets really good the team could do well.If not we could match last year if not worse.We shall see.

One thing I still dont understand though is why the media was riding Sanchez`s nuts so much after being so against him before he got injured. He sure as heck didn't light it up in the preseason with 2 td`s and 2 int`s and that's with playing almost a whole game in game 2. Geno looked better even though he had only 1 td and 3 int`s but if you go by stats alone both sucked so I'm baffled why the media acted like it was such a great loss with Sanchez being injured. Sanchez isn't our future. Whether Geno is time will tell.
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Posted 04 September 2013 - 09:22 AM

We are bad no doubt but I don't think we're the worst
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Posted 04 September 2013 - 09:38 AM

View PostChaos, on 03 September 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

I hope the Jets win the first two just to see how much of a jump they make. I'm stick with my usual prediction - 16-0 and #32 will be their pick in the 2014 Draft. I may be wrong but f*** being a pessimistic fan, I have other things in my life to be stressed over. Go Jets!


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