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NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
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Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:15 PM

Geno Smith was off target on four of 38 pass attempts (11 percent) in his debut. Mark Sanchez missed on 22 percent of his throws last year, fourth highest among qualified QBs.
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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:55 PM

Geno has more talent than Sanchez. He has a better arm and is more athletic. He makes me more excited for this season.
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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:13 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 10 September 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Geno has more talent than Sanchez. He has a better arm and is more athletic. He makes me more excited for this season.


if true, why was egno a 2nd round prospect and sanchez a 1st? sure geno might turn out a better QB, but there is a reaosn he wasn't sought after
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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:43 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 10 September 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

if true, why was egno a 2nd round prospect and sanchez a 1st? sure geno might turn out a better QB, but there is a reaosn he wasn't sought after



Teams not wanting to draft a QB. And there were questions about Geno's intangibles. Remember, the Jets thought about drafting him in the 1st round. I'm glad they didn't and got Sheldon Richardson and still got Geno in round 2.


I don't think its debatable that Geno is more athletic and has a better arm than Sanchez.
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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:17 PM

I just ran through the jets rewind vs the bucs. Unfortunately i see a lot of sanchez in geno. Geno has more of a zip with some of his throws but i dont see anything significantly better then sanchez. Lets just hope he keeps making good decisions and not putting the ball on the ground. Even though he did fumble vs the bucs and also had a couple sloppy sacks.
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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:28 PM

View Postsantana, on 10 September 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

I just ran through the jets rewind vs the bucs. Unfortunately i see a lot of sanchez in geno. Geno has more of a zip with some of his throws but i dont see anything significantly better then sanchez. Lets just hope he keeps making good decisions and not putting the ball on the ground. Even though he did fumble vs the bucs and also had a couple sloppy sacks.



What reminds you of Sanchez? I didn't see it. Geno actually knew how to slide, something Sanchez had to be taught to do. Geno placed the ball better on guys and threw with more zip. He didn't force passes in as much either. He completed over 60% of his passes with no run game. He actually knew how to throw a screen pass, something Sanchez never been able to do. And he is able to run, he had almost 50 yards rushing. Sanchez pretty much never ran.

His field vision isn't there yet, but it was his first start. It takes years to develop great field vision.
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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:04 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 10 September 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

if true, why was egno a 2nd round prospect and sanchez a 1st? sure geno might turn out a better QB, but there is a reaosn he wasn't sought after



Cus the Jets are the only morons to trade up for a qb whose stock only rose through meetings in the final days before the draft, and had NOTHING to do with what he could do on the field.
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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:09 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 10 September 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

What reminds you of Sanchez? I didn't see it. Geno actually knew how to slide, something Sanchez had to be taught to do. Geno placed the ball better on guys and threw with more zip. He didn't force passes in as much either. He completed over 60% of his passes with no run game. He actually knew how to throw a screen pass, something Sanchez never been able to do. And he is able to run, he had almost 50 yards rushing. Sanchez pretty much never ran.

His field vision isn't there yet, but it was his first start. It takes years to develop great field vision.


I agree... Its the mistakes that look like sanchez maybe i'm just traumatized and I'm having vietnam style flash backs. Its only been one game anyway. Playing the pats is going to be rough on geno.. hes still just a rookie.
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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:35 PM

I've been pretty critical of the guy but regardless of how good or bad geno will become, he has something that sanchez just doesn't have anymore or maybe never did. Confidence. I still would have preferred sanchez started the season off in a perfect world which would have allowed geno to sit back and learn but it is what it is. Hopefully this works out for the jets but on just that aspect alone, it's nice to see that we have a young prospect that can show some confidence in himself. He didn't look nearly as lost as sanchez did towards the end of last season.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:52 PM

View Postsantana, on 10 September 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

I just ran through the jets rewind vs the bucs. Unfortunately i see a lot of sanchez in geno. Geno has more of a zip with some of his throws but i dont see anything significantly better then sanchez. Lets just hope he keeps making good decisions and not putting the ball on the ground. Even though he did fumble vs the bucs and also had a couple sloppy sacks.

I think you need to get off the wacky weed.
There are no similarities between the two.

First off Geno already looks better than Sanchez does after 4 years. Next Geno`s passes are far more accurate by miles than Sanchez passes. People are giving Hill and the other receivers props for catching the ball like they got better this year. I dont see it that way. From my point of view I see Geno putting the ball where it needs to be more often than not making it easier for the receivers to catch the ball. With Mark on every pass he threw you never knew where the ball would be(on target, over thrown,under thrown, to low, to high, behind, or to far in front.It was like a guessing game with Mark`s passes.Mark made it hard as heck on the receivers to catch the ball.Most of the time with Mark he put the receivers in very bad positions and they either had to make a hard or miracle catch or worry about being destroyed from Mark putting them in bad positions where they got hit hard.

Also how often has Sanchez have over 60% completion which is the league average? Almost never. Heck without even looking I highly doubt Sanchez has managed even 60% completion in ten total games in all 4 years combined.And another thing is Geno completed over 60% against a good team. Mark could never do that. Any time Mark completed over 60% it was never ever against a good team...only sh*tty teams.

Another thing I noticed is Geno isn't hesitating with the pass like Mark usually did and Geno isn't throwing the ball late like Mark almost always did.

As far as the sacks.... are you kidding me???? That fumble wasn't his fault. We have Howard who is doing ok but he isn't sure as heck isn't great and next we have Ducasse who looked like total sh*t last year. I dont trust him as a starter one bit.More often than not Geno was under constant pressure and the o-line was eaten alive by the Bucs. The poor running game is another reason for that.



Mark is like night and day from Geno. If Mark would have played that game with the pressure the Bucs had the Jets would have been totally destroyed and blown out with Mark`s sheepish deer in the head lights look we have all seen many times.

I dont want Mark starting for us again. Geno is already better than Mark so unless he gets injured he should start and grow all season. He proved he could handle the pressure against a nasty defense


Geno may or may not be the future but he reads the defense way better than Mark has after 4 years.

As far as the Pats.... The Jets defense did awesome in shutting down Martin(a top 5 back) but I'm concerned about how bad they got eaten up in the passing game which is Brady`s game. Unless the pass defense does a full 360 by Thursday Brady will destroy us with the pass.
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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:55 PM

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I think you need to get off the wacky weed.
There are no similarities between the two.

First off Geno already looks better than Sanchez does after 4 years. Next Geno`s passes are far more accurate by miles than Sanchez passes. People are giving Hill and the other receivers props for catching the ball like they got better this year. I dont see it that way. From my point of view I see Geno putting the ball where it needs to be more often than not making it easier for the receivers to catch the ball. With Mark on every pass he threw you never knew where the ball would be(on target, over thrown,under thrown, to low, to high, behind or to far in front). It was like a guessing game with Mark`s passes.Mark made it hard as heck on the receivers to catch the ball.Most of the time with Mark he put the receivers in very bad positions and they either had to make a hard or miracle catch or worry about being destroyed from Mark putting them in bad positions.

Also how often has Sanchez have over 60% completion which is the league average? Almost never. Heck without even looking I highly doubt Sanchez has managed even 60% completion in ten total games in all 4 years combined.And another thing is Geno completed over 60% against a good team. Mark could never do that. Any time Mark completed over 60% it was never ever against a good team...only sh*tty teams.

Another thing I noticed is Geno isn't hesitating with the pass like Mark usually did and Geno isn't throwing the ball late like Mark almost always did.

As far as the sacks.... are you kidding me???? That fumble wasn't his fault. We have Howard who is doing ok but he isn't sure as heck isn't great and next we have Ducasse who looked like total sh*t last year. I dont trust him as a starter one bit.More often than not Geno was under constant pressure and the o-line was eaten alive by the Bucs. The poor running game is another reason for that.



Mark is like night and day from Geno. If Mark would have played that game with the pressure the Bucs had the Jets would have been totally destroyed and blown out with Mark`s sheepish deer in the head lights look we have all seen many times.

I dont want Mark starting for us again. Geno is already better than Mark so unless he gets injured he should start and grow all season. He proved he could handle the pressure against a nasty defense


Geno may or may not be the future but he reads the defense way better than Mark has after 4 years.

As far as the Pats.... The Jets defense did awesome in shutting down Martin(a top 5 back) but I'm concerned about how bad they got eaten up in the passing game which is Brady`s game. Unless the pass defense does a full 360 by Thursday Brady will destroy us with the pass.



to get through this season we might need all the wacky weed in the tri state area
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Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:12 AM

View Postsantana, on 10 September 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

I just ran through the jets rewind vs the bucs. Unfortunately i see a lot of sanchez in geno. Geno has more of a zip with some of his throws but i dont see anything significantly better then sanchez. Lets just hope he keeps making good decisions and not putting the ball on the ground. Even though he did fumble vs the bucs and also had a couple sloppy sacks.


I don't think it's possible to compare the two given the fact that Sanchez has David Carr Syndrome now and that this was Geno's first game. Intangiables aside, Sanchez never had any deficiencies in his arm, other than accuracy issues which I think was more of a system issue rather than his personal one. Geno does have much better mobility and that's what I think will ultimately make him successful. The league is steadily becoming a spread-the-defense-out standard and having a QB that can out run a LBer to the sideline and pick up a first down is going to be important.
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Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:57 PM

Geno isn't mike vick but he has a element of es-capabilities and this has already created more space for the WR's . Bill belichick will want to blitz him to foil his confidence so we should game plan for the Blitz with screens over each side of the field and not the center of the field that is where Geno can exploit the pressure himself. Pennington and Sanchez those days are gone. we must counter the pats defense . geno has promise but the team will have to help out a lot.
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