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azjetfan Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:04 PM) Hell yeah! Pac 12 AZ State Jaelen Strong. Not a Texans fan but and dont watch a ton of college football but do watch the Pac 12 for football and basketball growing up in Phoenix and also a Suns fan and liking the Cardinals since they moved to AZ .Was a Jets fan though before Az got the cardinals . Strong was really good for AZ State.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:05 PM) Havent studied up on strong for the Texans but will have to since the announcers said he hasnt played much. I want to know if he has been injured or not performing. He has good hands and size
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:08 PM) I actually was debating on starting the Colts witth Jets D on bye week glad I dropped them. Wasn't much to choose from. Some decent defenses but bad matchups. took a chance on the Jags this week hoping they can shut down Tampa
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:10 PM) Oh and thanks for that 115. people took it wrong. we were simply debating our opinions with passion for our love of football with no animosity and people took it wrong. Easy to misunderstand texts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:21 AM) yeah people don't realize it's ok to disagree on the internet without it being 2 people hating each other lol
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:30 PM) I think if the defense touches a live football in the end zone, period, it should be ruled a touchback.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:30 PM) Talking about fumbles, not passes, of course.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:31 PM) That's the simplest way to combat any confusion about the rule.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:32 PM) If you don't like that rule, then don't fumble in the end zone your trying to score in.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 02:21 PM) it's gotta be possession.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:03 PM) I know what the rule is. In proposing a rule change. Evidently, the way it is now is too complicated. If a defense touches a live football in the end zone it should be their ball at the 20. Problem solved.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:03 PM) I'm*
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:44 PM) what if the defense touches it whole trying tor ecover but doens't get it and the offense jumps on it first?
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 05:56 PM) You may not agree with it 115 but the way I look at it is if the offense recovered it it would be a touchdown. Its ok for a punter, qb, or rb ,etc. to deliberately take a safety so they dont get a punt blocked for a td or to avoid giving the ball up on the 1-2 yard line giving up a near definite td. An also those safeties by the O sometimes saves the game because giving up 2 instead of 7 keeps the game in reach at times.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:03 PM) Thats why I disagree with the rule. The offense gets the breaks of only giving up 2 points on O. but when fumbkling into the endzone and out it is always ruled a touchback even if the defender or O tries to recoiver the ball in the endzone and the ball goes out of bounds. Thats why I think batting the ball out of the endzone should still be a touchback instead of giving the ball back to the O that fumbled the ball into the endzone. Just dont feel that they should get a chance to get the ball back for an almost automatic td when they fumbled into the endzone just because of a batted ball. Its something that could litterally cause the defense that made a great play to lose simply because of a vbatted ball. Yet if they try to recover it it and it goes out its a touchback. I just feel its to game changing and a bad rule to give the O the ball back after they messed up bad because that play was the difference between a win and loss. The O fumbles so giving the O the ball back is like saying your great def play was worthless.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:04 PM) Just feel that its a bad rule since it would have almost definitely changed the game winner.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:08 PM) Just to many good rules for the O these days and to many bad rules for the D. this isn't college where offense dominates in most games. In the pros I want to see an equal playing field and not how its become so offensive friendly. Our own Jets have lost a lot of games on defensive calls alone after stopping the O. 3rd down and a mile and a penalty cost a 1st down and in many cases the game for us. Basically that's why I'm against the rule. I want an equal playing field in the pros nothing more.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) Offense is in control of the ball, they should have that option. Both teams get to play offense it's not unfiar
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) a major defensive play is more game changing then a major offensive play too.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) turnover ratio is better linked to win/loss then any other stat
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:27 PM) even in your case the offense gives up 2 point and posession back with good field position and ball control
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:33 PM) Lets just a agree to disagree on this topic. We both see the situation different and neither of us will budge on this. best we just let it go and see if the NFL starts enforcing the rule more or changes it at some point. Either way. All the coaches and players in the league now know the rule so I doubt it will deliberately happen again any time soon....but then again who knows...in the games there are a lot of stupid fouls out of frustration, taunting, etc.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:34 PM) And the fans and officials are now aware of a rule almost no one but the officials knew.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:37 PM) Heck Im upset that we arent 4-0 right now with all thr mistakes against the Eagles and still almost coming back. I feel we need every win we can get especially with the Bills looking decent and always having to deal with the pats every year. Be nice to win the division for once. So tired of seeing the Pats win and get a bye almost every year.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:12 PM) Why do the Jets DBs have to talk about the Giants WRs!!? Why can't they just worry about our own team.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:13 PM) I think all jets fans remember the last time our DBs talked crap about a Giants WR..
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:13 PM) The jets should just worry about the Jets!!
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:29 AM) jets and giants players hang out all the time
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:29 AM) i'm sure they dont care lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:24 AM) well bills won, we need a win this week to stay inn 2nd
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:25 AM) at least miami is pretty much done but we have to compete with NE and buffalo still
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:26 AM) as santana said, it's probably all in fun. most of these guys in the NFL are friends with players form other teams. I'm sure some jets/giants players are friends with each other
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:31 PM) Vick = $$
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Posted 12 September 2013 - 12:09 PM


FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- He is the Sanchise no more.

New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez "will require shoulder surgery," and is likely headed for injured reserve, so his stormy career with the team is all but over, a person with knowledge of his condition told USA TODAY Sports.

The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the Jets have not announced the extent of Sanchez's injury. The Jets would not comment Thursday on the diagnosis or the course of treatment.

Sanchez injured his shoulder in a preseason game against the New York Giants and sought a second opinion. He was examined Wednesday by Dr. James Andrews, and the surgeon diagnosed the tear and told the quarterback that he had two options -- surgery or rehab.

But Andrews told Sanchez that surgery was the best option, the person said.

Sanchez insisted Thursday that he has chosen treatment for his throwing shoulder, but the person said it's just a matter of time before the surgery is performed.

A second person with knowledge of the situation, who also requested anonymity because the team hasn't addressed the diagnosis, told USA TODAY Sports that Sanchez will continue to rehab his shoulder and no decision has been made about surgery yet, and that surgery is not imminent.
Last week, as Sanchez and the Jets scrambled to get a definitive diagnosis, Sanchez told people around him that he was worried the Jets wanted to place him on IR and "be done with him."

The Jets are allowed to designate one player to return from injured reserve after Week 8, but it's unlikely that would be Sanchez. The team has handed the starting job to rookie Geno Smith, while stockpiling quarterbacks Matt Simms and Brady Quinn.

As Sanchez's career with the Jets is ending, another is just beginning. After helping the Jets pull off an improbable comeback in Week 1 against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Smith will make the second start of his career Thursday night, when the Jets face the New England Patriots in Foxborough, Mass.

Sanchez appeared for the start of practice Tuesday, throwing only with his left arm. Those could be his last tosses for the Jets with either hand.

When asked last week about possibly putting Sanchez on IR, coach Rex Ryan said the team was not contemplating that at the time, "but absolutely things can change."

General manager John Idzik, in his most recent comments on Sanchez on Sept. 4, said: "No, we're not looking at that. We're looking at Mark continuing to rehab. We said it's day-to-day. It's very unpredictable sometimes. Mark knows his body better than anybody else. He's working very hard and so hopefully we'll get him back here soon."

Before visiting Andrews, Sanchez said, "We're getting every opinion possible. I think it's prudent."

Sanchez's diagnosis was first reported by ESPN, which also said surgery was "likely," but Sanchez quickly responded by saying, "If I needed surgery right now, I never would have left Andrews' office. I would've stayed and got the surgery."

The stumbling block to discarding Sanchez has been his salary. He counts $12.9 million against the 2013 salary cap, and if he is released, he also would count $4.8 million against the cap in 2014.

Before his injury, the Jets might have been able to trade Sanchez, but they likely would have had to absorb most of his contract to make him marketable. The shoulder injury takes that possibility -- which was remote to start -- off the table.
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Posted 12 September 2013 - 05:39 PM

Sanchez is now Pennington Part 2 except for the fact that Pennington was a very good QB before his injuries.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 06:58 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 12 September 2013 - 11:39 PM, said:

Sanchez is now Pennington Part 2 except for the fact that Pennington was a very good QB before his injuries.

Pennington was a reasonably effective QB after his injuries too. Given his scattergun accuracy, I don't see Sanchez duplicating what Pennington achieved post-injury though.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 11:33 PM

If Sanchez doesn't have this surgery he is a moron.Here is why....

I wont be posting much for a while because I just had right shoulder surgery on September 11th and typing is a b*tch.

Anyway I had a torn labrum just like Sanchez. Its basically just a torn tendon and he can come back 100% healed from if if he has surgery and has no rotator cuff.I tore my labrum like 8 years a go (playing football)and the doctor that saw me then said if I didn't have ton of pain to let it go. So I did and that was the wrong advice. Over the years my shoulder would dislocate more and more to the point where just turning my arm in a circle would make it pop in and out of socket.
When I saw a doctor this time he said that if I didn't get it repaired that the constant dislocating would eventually cause significant damage to the ball and socket joint. Injuries to either of those are a whole different matter and can cause problems the rest of your life especially if you have to have replacements.

Anyway with the field that Sanchez is in (football)rehabbing is the wrong decision because he will have dislocating problems much faster because he is putting much more stress on his shoulder throwing the ball.He needs to have the surgery unless he is going to just give up football and never throw footballs anymore.

This surgery isn't that bad really. Nothing compared to my back surgeries. More of an ache than anything. The worst part is your arm is pretty much immobilized in a brace for 6 weeks so you are basically one armed for that period.


The Labrum
To compensate for the shallow socket, the shoulder joint has a cuff of cartilage called a labrum that forms a cup for the end of the arm bone (humerus) to move within. The labrum circles the shallow shoulder socket (the glenoid) to make the socket deeper. This cuff of cartilage makes the shoulder joint much more stable, and allows for a very wide range of movements (in fact, the range of movements your shoulder can make far exceeds any other joint in the body).

The labrum is made of a thick tissue that is susceptible to injury with trauma to the shoulder joint. When a patient sustains a shoulder injury, it is possible that the patient has a labral tear. The labrum also becomes more brittle with age, and can fray and tear as part of the aging process.
Symptoms of a Torn Labrum
Symptoms of a labral tear depend on where the tear is located, but may include:

An aching sensation in the shoulder joint
Catching of the shoulder with movement
Pain with specific activities

In addition, some types of labral tears, specifically a Bankart lesion, can increase the potential for shoulder dislocations.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 09:41 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 15 September 2013 - 12:33 AM, said:

The worst part is your arm is pretty much immobilized in a brace for 6 weeks so you are basically one armed for that period.

Will absolutely agree with that part. My right arm's been in a half cast & wrap since the first week of August. Completely sucks!! Ruptured 2 3/4 of the 3 tendons that tie the triceps to the elbow. Now 5 anchors and a screw later, I get to still be in this shit for another 2 weeks then and adjustable / dial brace for another 6-8 weeks while they adjust the arm 10-15 degrees every other week prior to starting rehab.

Sanchez needs to have the shoulder surgery NOW in order to rehab and get any chance in hell of signing with anyone next season.
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