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Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 01:15 PM) anyone know anything about CB Kareem Jackson?
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Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:43 PM) @AdamSchefter: Filed to ESPN: Bills have notified LB Kiko Alonso he is going to be traded to Philadelphia for RB LeSean McCoy. Trade official next week.
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Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:44 PM) Jets can sign Spiller now but they're going to need a new LB. Rex is gunning for David Harris.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Jets should trade Harris to Minnesota for Minnesota for AP
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
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ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:14 AM

Offense:

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Last night we saw a future first ballot HOFer and likely Top 3 All Time QB looks average because he was surrounded by guys who ran shitty routes and can't catch the ball. That's been our mantra for the last 3 years and it's getting old. Geno can take the blame for the INTs, which he should because those 3 throws were terrible, but he's a rookie starting his first game on the road & the offense needed to pick him up. Gates is fast becoming Clowney 2.0, a preseason MVP who shrinks when it matters. Hill needs a new set of hands. Even the "nice" catch that he made late in the game was a body catch. I'm not even going to go into that fumble, which essentially was the difference in the ballgame. Our best WR is Holmes. When your best skill position player is a diva coming off of a major injury, you're going to have a bad time. You can almost see Sanchez smirking on the sideline thinking "At least this kid has an OC..." which brings me to my next point:

WTF Marty?! Ivory was averaging 4.7 YPC. When you saw him in the huddle, the Pats D line was petrified. You know how many carries Ivory got in the 4th Q? ONE!!! That's crazy in it of itself, then when you add that you're starting a rookie on the road in a monsoon, Ivory should've had 10-12 more carries than he did. Speaking of ugly, you know how you go to a club and see a good looking chick hanging out with a fat girl? Then you see that same good looking chick without the fat girl and all of a sudden, she's not that good looking anymore? That's Powell. Last season compared to Greene he looked like a marginal starter. So far this season, he looks like Thomas Jones without a second gear. Powell might have the slowest first step of all teh RBs I've seen. He has to race to the hole because he's so damn slow out of his stance. How he got more than double the carries Ivory got is beyond me. I understand that he's a better passblocker, that's cool. Bring him in on 3rd downs then. There's no reason he is taking carries away from Ivory. Some people complain about the gameplan, but that's neither here nor there. If the WRs make half those catches (Gates, Hill & Spadola) no one is complaining because we're moving the ball.

It wasn't all bad. I feel like our OL, especially Ducasse, are really coming along. Brick had some bad moments against Chandler Jones, but 2 of those sacks was on Geno. He's going to learn that he isn't in the ACC anymore and he can't wait until 8 MISSISSIPPI to get rid of the ball. I said it at the end of last season and during preseason, Ducasse is looking like the roadgrader we hoped he would be. Still a bad 2nd rounder, but if he keeps this up, he's a good interior OL and one less hole we need to plug in the future.

Can someone put Cumberland's face on a milk carton? I feel like I should report him missing.

Defense:

This wasn't a good showing for our boys. I know the stats looked great but if there's even half a decent WR out there with Edelman, we're going to the half down 21. There was minimal pressure on Brady, even though we brought 4 and 5 rushers on virtually every play. I don't know what happened to Cro, but he's starting to look like shit. Last week he got a pass because V Jax is a beast, but this week he's struggling against UDFAs? He had to grab Thompkins because he fell for his shitty move? Cmon Cro! Milliner looks like Kyle Wilson on his bad day. He never looks for the ball and plays the WR. He's already benched so that tells you that. Wilson had a decent game in the slot, which is what he is. I wish he'd step up and becoming something more than a 3rd CB on a team with 1 CB but that's why Mike T is working in a TV studio now. I'm not going to mention the safeties because they didn't get tested. I don't think Brady even targeted his TE once.

The Run D so far has been a pleasant surprise and Davis looks like he's really coming into his own. His speed was on display in Week 1 and last night he really stepped up in the Run D. Hopefully Q comes back sooner rather than later and we get an edge rusher... but we've been saying that since the Abraham trade.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:34 AM

I think Darrin Walls is a better CB than Dee Milliner is right now. Walls has looked good whenever hes in. Milliner should of had a FF last night though


Edelman wasn't even impressive last night. Guy had 13 catches for 78 yards. 6 ypc isn't impressive.


We missed Jeremy Kerley last night, hopefully he returns next week.


And where were our TEs? They need to do more.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:45 PM

Besides the point that we were playing in enemy territory, the fact that the JETS would pretty much have to play perfect ball to get a W up there, sucks even more cause it's not just the patriots the JETS have to scheme for but they have to play against the Referees.

If this team is to improve, one thing that needs to change on the offensive side of the ball is the WR's need to STOP trying to catch the ball with their chests and start catching the ball with their damn hands like any normal WR does in the NFL.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:56 PM

second hand get up into the booth and tell it .like it is . just goes to show that you can't play with perfection if you can't get to practice in the NFL these days . you can't just put any players on a roster and expect them to hum like a machine.
these kid WR are going to have to put in extra time, their own time on the filed and in the class room. the OL & DL didn't stink they will become a solid group in a few more weeks . Geno has good air about Him but is a bit raw still , now is the time to bring in Chad for help playing the position .
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:07 PM

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 12:13 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 September 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

Offense:

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. (HAHAHAHAHA) Great opening line!!
Last night we saw a future first ballot HOFer and likely Top 3 All Time QB looks average because he was surrounded by guys who ran shitty routes and can't catch the ball. That's been our mantra for the last 3 years and it's getting old. Geno can take the blame for the INTs, which he should because those 3 throws were terrible, but he's a rookie starting his first game on the road & the offense needed to pick him up. Gates is fast becoming Clowney 2.0, a preseason MVP who shrinks when it matters. Hill needs a new set of hands. Even the "nice" catch that he made late in the game was a body catch. I'm not even going to go into that fumble, which essentially was the difference in the ballgame. Our best WR is Holmes. When your best skill position player is a diva coming off of a major injury, you're going to have a bad time. You can almost see Sanchez smirking on the sideline thinking "At least this kid has an OC..." which brings me to my next point:

WTF Marty?! Ivory was averaging 4.7 YPC. When you saw him in the huddle, the Pats D line was petrified. You know how many carries Ivory got in the 4th Q? ONE!!! That's crazy in it of itself, then when you add that you're starting a rookie on the road in a monsoon, Ivory should've had 10-12 more carries than he did. Speaking of ugly, you know how you go to a club and see a good looking chick hanging out with a fat girl? Then you see that same good looking chick without the fat girl and all of a sudden, she's not that good looking anymore? That's Powell. Last season compared to Greene he looked like a marginal starter. So far this season, he looks like Thomas Jones without a second gear. Powell might have the slowest first step of all teh RBs I've seen. He has to race to the hole because he's so damn slow out of his stance. How he got more than double the carries Ivory got is beyond me. I understand that he's a better passblocker, that's cool. Bring him in on 3rd downs then. There's no reason he is taking carries away from Ivory. Some people complain about the gameplan, but that's neither here nor there. If the WRs make half those catches (Gates, Hill & Spadola) no one is complaining because we're moving the ball.

I agree here. It went downhill in the 2nd QTR, when he called 7 consecutive pass plays. (they were all incomplete or minimal gain I belive) I really felt that the tide changed a little here.


It wasn't all bad. I feel like our OL, especially Ducasse, are really coming along. Brick had some bad moments against Chandler Jones, but 2 of those sacks was on Geno. He's going to learn that he isn't in the ACC anymore and he can't wait until 8 MISSISSIPPI to get rid of the ball. I said it at the end of last season and during preseason, Ducasse is looking like the roadgrader we hoped he would be. Still a bad 2nd rounder, but if he keeps this up, he's a good interior OL and one less hole we need to plug in the future.

Can someone put Cumberland's face on a milk carton? I feel like I should report him missing.

Defense:

This wasn't a good showing for our boys. I know the stats looked great but if there's even half a decent WR out there with Edelman, we're going to the half down 21. There was minimal pressure on Brady, even though we brought 4 and 5 rushers on virtually every play. I don't know what happened to Cro, but he's starting to look like shit. Last week he got a pass because V Jax is a beast, but this week he's struggling against UDFAs? He had to grab Thompkins because he fell for his shitty move? Cmon Cro! Milliner looks like Kyle Wilson on his bad day. He never looks for the ball and plays the WR. He's already benched so that tells you that. Wilson had a decent game in the slot, which is what he is. I wish he'd step up and becoming something more than a 3rd CB on a team with 1 CB but that's why Mike T is working in a TV studio now. I'm not going to mention the safeties because they didn't get tested. I don't think Brady even targeted his TE once.

The Run D so far has been a pleasant surprise and Davis looks like he's really coming into his own. His speed was on display in Week 1 and last night he really stepped up in the Run D. Hopefully Q comes back sooner rather than later and we get an edge rusher... but we've been saying that since the Abraham trade.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 10:16 PM

As refreshing as Mornhinweg is after a season with Sparano, he really needs to stick to the run if it's working. Geno was throwing way too much other there when Ivory and Bilal were doing fine running the rock. Makes no sense to me.
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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:07 PM

I saw "reaction to last night" and all i thought was "Of Breaking Bad?" If that was the case, I would of gone off on how amazing that show f***ing was
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 10:35 AM

View PostChaos, on 16 September 2013 - 11:16 PM, said:

As refreshing as Mornhinweg is after a season with Sparano, he really needs to stick to the run if it's working. Geno was throwing way too much other there when Ivory and Bilal were doing fine running the rock. Makes no sense to me.


I don't think marty's brain is wired that way. Even with top notch runners in philly they would still throw it 40+ times a game.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:55 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 September 2013 - 11:14 AM, said:

Offense:

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Last night we saw a future first ballot HOFer and likely Top 3 All Time QB looks average because he was surrounded by guys who ran shitty routes and can't catch the ball. That's been our mantra for the last 3 years and it's getting old. Geno can take the blame for the INTs, which he should because those 3 throws were terrible, but he's a rookie starting his first game on the road & the offense needed to pick him up. Gates is fast becoming Clowney 2.0, a preseason MVP who shrinks when it matters. Hill needs a new set of hands. Even the "nice" catch that he made late in the game was a body catch. I'm not even going to go into that fumble, which essentially was the difference in the ballgame. Our best WR is Holmes. When your best skill position player is a diva coming off of a major injury, you're going to have a bad time. You can almost see Sanchez smirking on the sideline thinking "At least this kid has an OC..." which brings me to my next point:

WTF Marty?! Ivory was averaging 4.7 YPC. When you saw him in the huddle, the Pats D line was petrified. You know how many carries Ivory got in the 4th Q? ONE!!! That's crazy in it of itself, then when you add that you're starting a rookie on the road in a monsoon, Ivory should've had 10-12 more carries than he did. Speaking of ugly, you know how you go to a club and see a good looking chick hanging out with a fat girl? Then you see that same good looking chick without the fat girl and all of a sudden, she's not that good looking anymore? That's Powell. Last season compared to Greene he looked like a marginal starter. So far this season, he looks like Thomas Jones without a second gear. Powell might have the slowest first step of all teh RBs I've seen. He has to race to the hole because he's so damn slow out of his stance. How he got more than double the carries Ivory got is beyond me. I understand that he's a better passblocker, that's cool. Bring him in on 3rd downs then. There's no reason he is taking carries away from Ivory. Some people complain about the gameplan, but that's neither here nor there. If the WRs make half those catches (Gates, Hill & Spadola) no one is complaining because we're moving the ball.

It wasn't all bad. I feel like our OL, especially Ducasse, are really coming along. Brick had some bad moments against Chandler Jones, but 2 of those sacks was on Geno. He's going to learn that he isn't in the ACC anymore and he can't wait until 8 MISSISSIPPI to get rid of the ball. I said it at the end of last season and during preseason, Ducasse is looking like the roadgrader we hoped he would be. Still a bad 2nd rounder, but if he keeps this up, he's a good interior OL and one less hole we need to plug in the future.

Can someone put Cumberland's face on a milk carton? I feel like I should report him missing.

Defense:

This wasn't a good showing for our boys. I know the stats looked great but if there's even half a decent WR out there with Edelman, we're going to the half down 21. There was minimal pressure on Brady, even though we brought 4 and 5 rushers on virtually every play. I don't know what happened to Cro, but he's starting to look like shit. Last week he got a pass because V Jax is a beast, but this week he's struggling against UDFAs? He had to grab Thompkins because he fell for his shitty move? Cmon Cro! Milliner looks like Kyle Wilson on his bad day. He never looks for the ball and plays the WR. He's already benched so that tells you that. Wilson had a decent game in the slot, which is what he is. I wish he'd step up and becoming something more than a 3rd CB on a team with 1 CB but that's why Mike T is working in a TV studio now. I'm not going to mention the safeties because they didn't get tested. I don't think Brady even targeted his TE once.

The Run D so far has been a pleasant surprise and Davis looks like he's really coming into his own. His speed was on display in Week 1 and last night he really stepped up in the Run D. Hopefully Q comes back sooner rather than later and we get an edge rusher... but we've been saying that since the Abraham trade.

I'm not one to talk because I make plenty of long posts but its pretty funny and ironic to see SHJ to put his foot up his own a$$.

Unless I'm wrong I'm pretty damn SHJ has stated many times about his "THREE LINE LIMIT FOR READING POSTS AND MAKING POSTS" and anything more is not worth reading.


So what is up with the essay SHJ? According to your own words your post isn't even worth reading or acknowledging.


I'm just ragging you for saying that dumb sh*t in the first place. The way I see it as long as someone makes a post worth reading whats it matter?
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Posted 18 September 2013 - 02:34 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 18 September 2013 - 12:55 AM, said:

I'm not one to talk because I make plenty of long posts but its pretty funny and ironic to see SHJ to put his foot up his own a$$.

Unless I'm wrong I'm pretty damn SHJ has stated many times about his "THREE LINE LIMIT FOR READING POSTS AND MAKING POSTS" and anything more is not worth reading.


So what is up with the essay SHJ? According to your own words your post isn't even worth reading or acknowledging.


I'm just ragging you for saying that dumb sh*t in the first place. The way I see it as long as someone makes a post worth reading whats it matter?


Bobby, what are you doing? Why you shitting in your hand and flinging it across the cage? Stop monkeying around. My 3 lines or less rule is specific to Mr Jet and his NON-NFL related debates. If I can read the weekly TMQ articles, I can read almost anything any length football related.
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Posted 18 September 2013 - 03:42 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 September 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Bobby, what are you doing? Why you shitting in your hand and flinging it across the cage? Stop monkeying around. My 3 lines or less rule is specific to Mr Jet and his NON-NFL related debates. If I can read the weekly TMQ articles, I can read almost anything any length football related.


hahah Bobby.

SHJ... you make me chuckle.
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Posted 19 September 2013 - 05:53 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 September 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Bobby, what are you doing? Why you shitting in your hand and flinging it across the cage? Stop monkeying around. My 3 lines or less rule is specific to Mr Jet and his NON-NFL related debates. If I can read the weekly TMQ articles, I can read almost anything any length football related.

LoL man. Your comeback was great and funny as hell. I love people with a sense of humor. To bad everyone cant take the fun side. To much fighting over stupid crap and not enough humor like this man.

Sad thing is I always hated the name Bobby when I was younger. All my family members have always to this day called me Bobby so I'm used to it now but anyone else not family related calls me Rob or Robert. So you adding the Bobby in the little kid context like you did made your comment even more funny.

Also thanks for making your three line limit rule clear.

Still was fun messing with you about it though.
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