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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) HUGE game today
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) Santana PLEASE refrain from entering the BanterBox cause you are a JINX
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:14 AM

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You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Last night we saw a future first ballot HOFer and likely Top 3 All Time QB looks average because he was surrounded by guys who ran shitty routes and can't catch the ball. That's been our mantra for the last 3 years and it's getting old. Geno can take the blame for the INTs, which he should because those 3 throws were terrible, but he's a rookie starting his first game on the road & the offense needed to pick him up. Gates is fast becoming Clowney 2.0, a preseason MVP who shrinks when it matters. Hill needs a new set of hands. Even the "nice" catch that he made late in the game was a body catch. I'm not even going to go into that fumble, which essentially was the difference in the ballgame. Our best WR is Holmes. When your best skill position player is a diva coming off of a major injury, you're going to have a bad time. You can almost see Sanchez smirking on the sideline thinking "At least this kid has an OC..." which brings me to my next point:

WTF Marty?! Ivory was averaging 4.7 YPC. When you saw him in the huddle, the Pats D line was petrified. You know how many carries Ivory got in the 4th Q? ONE!!! That's crazy in it of itself, then when you add that you're starting a rookie on the road in a monsoon, Ivory should've had 10-12 more carries than he did. Speaking of ugly, you know how you go to a club and see a good looking chick hanging out with a fat girl? Then you see that same good looking chick without the fat girl and all of a sudden, she's not that good looking anymore? That's Powell. Last season compared to Greene he looked like a marginal starter. So far this season, he looks like Thomas Jones without a second gear. Powell might have the slowest first step of all teh RBs I've seen. He has to race to the hole because he's so damn slow out of his stance. How he got more than double the carries Ivory got is beyond me. I understand that he's a better passblocker, that's cool. Bring him in on 3rd downs then. There's no reason he is taking carries away from Ivory. Some people complain about the gameplan, but that's neither here nor there. If the WRs make half those catches (Gates, Hill & Spadola) no one is complaining because we're moving the ball.

It wasn't all bad. I feel like our OL, especially Ducasse, are really coming along. Brick had some bad moments against Chandler Jones, but 2 of those sacks was on Geno. He's going to learn that he isn't in the ACC anymore and he can't wait until 8 MISSISSIPPI to get rid of the ball. I said it at the end of last season and during preseason, Ducasse is looking like the roadgrader we hoped he would be. Still a bad 2nd rounder, but if he keeps this up, he's a good interior OL and one less hole we need to plug in the future.

Can someone put Cumberland's face on a milk carton? I feel like I should report him missing.

Defense:

This wasn't a good showing for our boys. I know the stats looked great but if there's even half a decent WR out there with Edelman, we're going to the half down 21. There was minimal pressure on Brady, even though we brought 4 and 5 rushers on virtually every play. I don't know what happened to Cro, but he's starting to look like shit. Last week he got a pass because V Jax is a beast, but this week he's struggling against UDFAs? He had to grab Thompkins because he fell for his shitty move? Cmon Cro! Milliner looks like Kyle Wilson on his bad day. He never looks for the ball and plays the WR. He's already benched so that tells you that. Wilson had a decent game in the slot, which is what he is. I wish he'd step up and becoming something more than a 3rd CB on a team with 1 CB but that's why Mike T is working in a TV studio now. I'm not going to mention the safeties because they didn't get tested. I don't think Brady even targeted his TE once.

The Run D so far has been a pleasant surprise and Davis looks like he's really coming into his own. His speed was on display in Week 1 and last night he really stepped up in the Run D. Hopefully Q comes back sooner rather than later and we get an edge rusher... but we've been saying that since the Abraham trade.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:34 AM

I think Darrin Walls is a better CB than Dee Milliner is right now. Walls has looked good whenever hes in. Milliner should of had a FF last night though


Edelman wasn't even impressive last night. Guy had 13 catches for 78 yards. 6 ypc isn't impressive.


We missed Jeremy Kerley last night, hopefully he returns next week.


And where were our TEs? They need to do more.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:45 PM

Besides the point that we were playing in enemy territory, the fact that the JETS would pretty much have to play perfect ball to get a W up there, sucks even more cause it's not just the patriots the JETS have to scheme for but they have to play against the Referees.

If this team is to improve, one thing that needs to change on the offensive side of the ball is the WR's need to STOP trying to catch the ball with their chests and start catching the ball with their damn hands like any normal WR does in the NFL.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:56 PM

second hand get up into the booth and tell it .like it is . just goes to show that you can't play with perfection if you can't get to practice in the NFL these days . you can't just put any players on a roster and expect them to hum like a machine.
these kid WR are going to have to put in extra time, their own time on the filed and in the class room. the OL & DL didn't stink they will become a solid group in a few more weeks . Geno has good air about Him but is a bit raw still , now is the time to bring in Chad for help playing the position .
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:07 PM

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 12:13 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 September 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

Offense:

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. (HAHAHAHAHA) Great opening line!!
Last night we saw a future first ballot HOFer and likely Top 3 All Time QB looks average because he was surrounded by guys who ran shitty routes and can't catch the ball. That's been our mantra for the last 3 years and it's getting old. Geno can take the blame for the INTs, which he should because those 3 throws were terrible, but he's a rookie starting his first game on the road & the offense needed to pick him up. Gates is fast becoming Clowney 2.0, a preseason MVP who shrinks when it matters. Hill needs a new set of hands. Even the "nice" catch that he made late in the game was a body catch. I'm not even going to go into that fumble, which essentially was the difference in the ballgame. Our best WR is Holmes. When your best skill position player is a diva coming off of a major injury, you're going to have a bad time. You can almost see Sanchez smirking on the sideline thinking "At least this kid has an OC..." which brings me to my next point:

WTF Marty?! Ivory was averaging 4.7 YPC. When you saw him in the huddle, the Pats D line was petrified. You know how many carries Ivory got in the 4th Q? ONE!!! That's crazy in it of itself, then when you add that you're starting a rookie on the road in a monsoon, Ivory should've had 10-12 more carries than he did. Speaking of ugly, you know how you go to a club and see a good looking chick hanging out with a fat girl? Then you see that same good looking chick without the fat girl and all of a sudden, she's not that good looking anymore? That's Powell. Last season compared to Greene he looked like a marginal starter. So far this season, he looks like Thomas Jones without a second gear. Powell might have the slowest first step of all teh RBs I've seen. He has to race to the hole because he's so damn slow out of his stance. How he got more than double the carries Ivory got is beyond me. I understand that he's a better passblocker, that's cool. Bring him in on 3rd downs then. There's no reason he is taking carries away from Ivory. Some people complain about the gameplan, but that's neither here nor there. If the WRs make half those catches (Gates, Hill & Spadola) no one is complaining because we're moving the ball.

I agree here. It went downhill in the 2nd QTR, when he called 7 consecutive pass plays. (they were all incomplete or minimal gain I belive) I really felt that the tide changed a little here.


It wasn't all bad. I feel like our OL, especially Ducasse, are really coming along. Brick had some bad moments against Chandler Jones, but 2 of those sacks was on Geno. He's going to learn that he isn't in the ACC anymore and he can't wait until 8 MISSISSIPPI to get rid of the ball. I said it at the end of last season and during preseason, Ducasse is looking like the roadgrader we hoped he would be. Still a bad 2nd rounder, but if he keeps this up, he's a good interior OL and one less hole we need to plug in the future.

Can someone put Cumberland's face on a milk carton? I feel like I should report him missing.

Defense:

This wasn't a good showing for our boys. I know the stats looked great but if there's even half a decent WR out there with Edelman, we're going to the half down 21. There was minimal pressure on Brady, even though we brought 4 and 5 rushers on virtually every play. I don't know what happened to Cro, but he's starting to look like shit. Last week he got a pass because V Jax is a beast, but this week he's struggling against UDFAs? He had to grab Thompkins because he fell for his shitty move? Cmon Cro! Milliner looks like Kyle Wilson on his bad day. He never looks for the ball and plays the WR. He's already benched so that tells you that. Wilson had a decent game in the slot, which is what he is. I wish he'd step up and becoming something more than a 3rd CB on a team with 1 CB but that's why Mike T is working in a TV studio now. I'm not going to mention the safeties because they didn't get tested. I don't think Brady even targeted his TE once.

The Run D so far has been a pleasant surprise and Davis looks like he's really coming into his own. His speed was on display in Week 1 and last night he really stepped up in the Run D. Hopefully Q comes back sooner rather than later and we get an edge rusher... but we've been saying that since the Abraham trade.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 10:16 PM

As refreshing as Mornhinweg is after a season with Sparano, he really needs to stick to the run if it's working. Geno was throwing way too much other there when Ivory and Bilal were doing fine running the rock. Makes no sense to me.
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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:07 PM

I saw "reaction to last night" and all i thought was "Of Breaking Bad?" If that was the case, I would of gone off on how amazing that show f***ing was
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 10:35 AM

View PostChaos, on 16 September 2013 - 11:16 PM, said:

As refreshing as Mornhinweg is after a season with Sparano, he really needs to stick to the run if it's working. Geno was throwing way too much other there when Ivory and Bilal were doing fine running the rock. Makes no sense to me.


I don't think marty's brain is wired that way. Even with top notch runners in philly they would still throw it 40+ times a game.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:55 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 September 2013 - 11:14 AM, said:

Offense:

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Last night we saw a future first ballot HOFer and likely Top 3 All Time QB looks average because he was surrounded by guys who ran shitty routes and can't catch the ball. That's been our mantra for the last 3 years and it's getting old. Geno can take the blame for the INTs, which he should because those 3 throws were terrible, but he's a rookie starting his first game on the road & the offense needed to pick him up. Gates is fast becoming Clowney 2.0, a preseason MVP who shrinks when it matters. Hill needs a new set of hands. Even the "nice" catch that he made late in the game was a body catch. I'm not even going to go into that fumble, which essentially was the difference in the ballgame. Our best WR is Holmes. When your best skill position player is a diva coming off of a major injury, you're going to have a bad time. You can almost see Sanchez smirking on the sideline thinking "At least this kid has an OC..." which brings me to my next point:

WTF Marty?! Ivory was averaging 4.7 YPC. When you saw him in the huddle, the Pats D line was petrified. You know how many carries Ivory got in the 4th Q? ONE!!! That's crazy in it of itself, then when you add that you're starting a rookie on the road in a monsoon, Ivory should've had 10-12 more carries than he did. Speaking of ugly, you know how you go to a club and see a good looking chick hanging out with a fat girl? Then you see that same good looking chick without the fat girl and all of a sudden, she's not that good looking anymore? That's Powell. Last season compared to Greene he looked like a marginal starter. So far this season, he looks like Thomas Jones without a second gear. Powell might have the slowest first step of all teh RBs I've seen. He has to race to the hole because he's so damn slow out of his stance. How he got more than double the carries Ivory got is beyond me. I understand that he's a better passblocker, that's cool. Bring him in on 3rd downs then. There's no reason he is taking carries away from Ivory. Some people complain about the gameplan, but that's neither here nor there. If the WRs make half those catches (Gates, Hill & Spadola) no one is complaining because we're moving the ball.

It wasn't all bad. I feel like our OL, especially Ducasse, are really coming along. Brick had some bad moments against Chandler Jones, but 2 of those sacks was on Geno. He's going to learn that he isn't in the ACC anymore and he can't wait until 8 MISSISSIPPI to get rid of the ball. I said it at the end of last season and during preseason, Ducasse is looking like the roadgrader we hoped he would be. Still a bad 2nd rounder, but if he keeps this up, he's a good interior OL and one less hole we need to plug in the future.

Can someone put Cumberland's face on a milk carton? I feel like I should report him missing.

Defense:

This wasn't a good showing for our boys. I know the stats looked great but if there's even half a decent WR out there with Edelman, we're going to the half down 21. There was minimal pressure on Brady, even though we brought 4 and 5 rushers on virtually every play. I don't know what happened to Cro, but he's starting to look like shit. Last week he got a pass because V Jax is a beast, but this week he's struggling against UDFAs? He had to grab Thompkins because he fell for his shitty move? Cmon Cro! Milliner looks like Kyle Wilson on his bad day. He never looks for the ball and plays the WR. He's already benched so that tells you that. Wilson had a decent game in the slot, which is what he is. I wish he'd step up and becoming something more than a 3rd CB on a team with 1 CB but that's why Mike T is working in a TV studio now. I'm not going to mention the safeties because they didn't get tested. I don't think Brady even targeted his TE once.

The Run D so far has been a pleasant surprise and Davis looks like he's really coming into his own. His speed was on display in Week 1 and last night he really stepped up in the Run D. Hopefully Q comes back sooner rather than later and we get an edge rusher... but we've been saying that since the Abraham trade.

I'm not one to talk because I make plenty of long posts but its pretty funny and ironic to see SHJ to put his foot up his own a$$.

Unless I'm wrong I'm pretty damn SHJ has stated many times about his "THREE LINE LIMIT FOR READING POSTS AND MAKING POSTS" and anything more is not worth reading.


So what is up with the essay SHJ? According to your own words your post isn't even worth reading or acknowledging.


I'm just ragging you for saying that dumb sh*t in the first place. The way I see it as long as someone makes a post worth reading whats it matter?
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Posted 18 September 2013 - 02:34 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 18 September 2013 - 12:55 AM, said:

I'm not one to talk because I make plenty of long posts but its pretty funny and ironic to see SHJ to put his foot up his own a$$.

Unless I'm wrong I'm pretty damn SHJ has stated many times about his "THREE LINE LIMIT FOR READING POSTS AND MAKING POSTS" and anything more is not worth reading.


So what is up with the essay SHJ? According to your own words your post isn't even worth reading or acknowledging.


I'm just ragging you for saying that dumb sh*t in the first place. The way I see it as long as someone makes a post worth reading whats it matter?


Bobby, what are you doing? Why you shitting in your hand and flinging it across the cage? Stop monkeying around. My 3 lines or less rule is specific to Mr Jet and his NON-NFL related debates. If I can read the weekly TMQ articles, I can read almost anything any length football related.
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Posted 18 September 2013 - 03:42 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 September 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Bobby, what are you doing? Why you shitting in your hand and flinging it across the cage? Stop monkeying around. My 3 lines or less rule is specific to Mr Jet and his NON-NFL related debates. If I can read the weekly TMQ articles, I can read almost anything any length football related.


hahah Bobby.

SHJ... you make me chuckle.
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Posted 19 September 2013 - 05:53 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 September 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Bobby, what are you doing? Why you shitting in your hand and flinging it across the cage? Stop monkeying around. My 3 lines or less rule is specific to Mr Jet and his NON-NFL related debates. If I can read the weekly TMQ articles, I can read almost anything any length football related.

LoL man. Your comeback was great and funny as hell. I love people with a sense of humor. To bad everyone cant take the fun side. To much fighting over stupid crap and not enough humor like this man.

Sad thing is I always hated the name Bobby when I was younger. All my family members have always to this day called me Bobby so I'm used to it now but anyone else not family related calls me Rob or Robert. So you adding the Bobby in the little kid context like you did made your comment even more funny.

Also thanks for making your three line limit rule clear.

Still was fun messing with you about it though.
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