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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:14 AM

Offense:

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Last night we saw a future first ballot HOFer and likely Top 3 All Time QB looks average because he was surrounded by guys who ran shitty routes and can't catch the ball. That's been our mantra for the last 3 years and it's getting old. Geno can take the blame for the INTs, which he should because those 3 throws were terrible, but he's a rookie starting his first game on the road & the offense needed to pick him up. Gates is fast becoming Clowney 2.0, a preseason MVP who shrinks when it matters. Hill needs a new set of hands. Even the "nice" catch that he made late in the game was a body catch. I'm not even going to go into that fumble, which essentially was the difference in the ballgame. Our best WR is Holmes. When your best skill position player is a diva coming off of a major injury, you're going to have a bad time. You can almost see Sanchez smirking on the sideline thinking "At least this kid has an OC..." which brings me to my next point:

WTF Marty?! Ivory was averaging 4.7 YPC. When you saw him in the huddle, the Pats D line was petrified. You know how many carries Ivory got in the 4th Q? ONE!!! That's crazy in it of itself, then when you add that you're starting a rookie on the road in a monsoon, Ivory should've had 10-12 more carries than he did. Speaking of ugly, you know how you go to a club and see a good looking chick hanging out with a fat girl? Then you see that same good looking chick without the fat girl and all of a sudden, she's not that good looking anymore? That's Powell. Last season compared to Greene he looked like a marginal starter. So far this season, he looks like Thomas Jones without a second gear. Powell might have the slowest first step of all teh RBs I've seen. He has to race to the hole because he's so damn slow out of his stance. How he got more than double the carries Ivory got is beyond me. I understand that he's a better passblocker, that's cool. Bring him in on 3rd downs then. There's no reason he is taking carries away from Ivory. Some people complain about the gameplan, but that's neither here nor there. If the WRs make half those catches (Gates, Hill & Spadola) no one is complaining because we're moving the ball.

It wasn't all bad. I feel like our OL, especially Ducasse, are really coming along. Brick had some bad moments against Chandler Jones, but 2 of those sacks was on Geno. He's going to learn that he isn't in the ACC anymore and he can't wait until 8 MISSISSIPPI to get rid of the ball. I said it at the end of last season and during preseason, Ducasse is looking like the roadgrader we hoped he would be. Still a bad 2nd rounder, but if he keeps this up, he's a good interior OL and one less hole we need to plug in the future.

Can someone put Cumberland's face on a milk carton? I feel like I should report him missing.

Defense:

This wasn't a good showing for our boys. I know the stats looked great but if there's even half a decent WR out there with Edelman, we're going to the half down 21. There was minimal pressure on Brady, even though we brought 4 and 5 rushers on virtually every play. I don't know what happened to Cro, but he's starting to look like shit. Last week he got a pass because V Jax is a beast, but this week he's struggling against UDFAs? He had to grab Thompkins because he fell for his shitty move? Cmon Cro! Milliner looks like Kyle Wilson on his bad day. He never looks for the ball and plays the WR. He's already benched so that tells you that. Wilson had a decent game in the slot, which is what he is. I wish he'd step up and becoming something more than a 3rd CB on a team with 1 CB but that's why Mike T is working in a TV studio now. I'm not going to mention the safeties because they didn't get tested. I don't think Brady even targeted his TE once.

The Run D so far has been a pleasant surprise and Davis looks like he's really coming into his own. His speed was on display in Week 1 and last night he really stepped up in the Run D. Hopefully Q comes back sooner rather than later and we get an edge rusher... but we've been saying that since the Abraham trade.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:34 AM

I think Darrin Walls is a better CB than Dee Milliner is right now. Walls has looked good whenever hes in. Milliner should of had a FF last night though


Edelman wasn't even impressive last night. Guy had 13 catches for 78 yards. 6 ypc isn't impressive.


We missed Jeremy Kerley last night, hopefully he returns next week.


And where were our TEs? They need to do more.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:45 PM

Besides the point that we were playing in enemy territory, the fact that the JETS would pretty much have to play perfect ball to get a W up there, sucks even more cause it's not just the patriots the JETS have to scheme for but they have to play against the Referees.

If this team is to improve, one thing that needs to change on the offensive side of the ball is the WR's need to STOP trying to catch the ball with their chests and start catching the ball with their damn hands like any normal WR does in the NFL.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:56 PM

second hand get up into the booth and tell it .like it is . just goes to show that you can't play with perfection if you can't get to practice in the NFL these days . you can't just put any players on a roster and expect them to hum like a machine.
these kid WR are going to have to put in extra time, their own time on the filed and in the class room. the OL & DL didn't stink they will become a solid group in a few more weeks . Geno has good air about Him but is a bit raw still , now is the time to bring in Chad for help playing the position .
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:07 PM

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 12:13 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 September 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

Offense:

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. (HAHAHAHAHA) Great opening line!!
Last night we saw a future first ballot HOFer and likely Top 3 All Time QB looks average because he was surrounded by guys who ran shitty routes and can't catch the ball. That's been our mantra for the last 3 years and it's getting old. Geno can take the blame for the INTs, which he should because those 3 throws were terrible, but he's a rookie starting his first game on the road & the offense needed to pick him up. Gates is fast becoming Clowney 2.0, a preseason MVP who shrinks when it matters. Hill needs a new set of hands. Even the "nice" catch that he made late in the game was a body catch. I'm not even going to go into that fumble, which essentially was the difference in the ballgame. Our best WR is Holmes. When your best skill position player is a diva coming off of a major injury, you're going to have a bad time. You can almost see Sanchez smirking on the sideline thinking "At least this kid has an OC..." which brings me to my next point:

WTF Marty?! Ivory was averaging 4.7 YPC. When you saw him in the huddle, the Pats D line was petrified. You know how many carries Ivory got in the 4th Q? ONE!!! That's crazy in it of itself, then when you add that you're starting a rookie on the road in a monsoon, Ivory should've had 10-12 more carries than he did. Speaking of ugly, you know how you go to a club and see a good looking chick hanging out with a fat girl? Then you see that same good looking chick without the fat girl and all of a sudden, she's not that good looking anymore? That's Powell. Last season compared to Greene he looked like a marginal starter. So far this season, he looks like Thomas Jones without a second gear. Powell might have the slowest first step of all teh RBs I've seen. He has to race to the hole because he's so damn slow out of his stance. How he got more than double the carries Ivory got is beyond me. I understand that he's a better passblocker, that's cool. Bring him in on 3rd downs then. There's no reason he is taking carries away from Ivory. Some people complain about the gameplan, but that's neither here nor there. If the WRs make half those catches (Gates, Hill & Spadola) no one is complaining because we're moving the ball.

I agree here. It went downhill in the 2nd QTR, when he called 7 consecutive pass plays. (they were all incomplete or minimal gain I belive) I really felt that the tide changed a little here.


It wasn't all bad. I feel like our OL, especially Ducasse, are really coming along. Brick had some bad moments against Chandler Jones, but 2 of those sacks was on Geno. He's going to learn that he isn't in the ACC anymore and he can't wait until 8 MISSISSIPPI to get rid of the ball. I said it at the end of last season and during preseason, Ducasse is looking like the roadgrader we hoped he would be. Still a bad 2nd rounder, but if he keeps this up, he's a good interior OL and one less hole we need to plug in the future.

Can someone put Cumberland's face on a milk carton? I feel like I should report him missing.

Defense:

This wasn't a good showing for our boys. I know the stats looked great but if there's even half a decent WR out there with Edelman, we're going to the half down 21. There was minimal pressure on Brady, even though we brought 4 and 5 rushers on virtually every play. I don't know what happened to Cro, but he's starting to look like shit. Last week he got a pass because V Jax is a beast, but this week he's struggling against UDFAs? He had to grab Thompkins because he fell for his shitty move? Cmon Cro! Milliner looks like Kyle Wilson on his bad day. He never looks for the ball and plays the WR. He's already benched so that tells you that. Wilson had a decent game in the slot, which is what he is. I wish he'd step up and becoming something more than a 3rd CB on a team with 1 CB but that's why Mike T is working in a TV studio now. I'm not going to mention the safeties because they didn't get tested. I don't think Brady even targeted his TE once.

The Run D so far has been a pleasant surprise and Davis looks like he's really coming into his own. His speed was on display in Week 1 and last night he really stepped up in the Run D. Hopefully Q comes back sooner rather than later and we get an edge rusher... but we've been saying that since the Abraham trade.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 10:16 PM

As refreshing as Mornhinweg is after a season with Sparano, he really needs to stick to the run if it's working. Geno was throwing way too much other there when Ivory and Bilal were doing fine running the rock. Makes no sense to me.
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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:07 PM

I saw "reaction to last night" and all i thought was "Of Breaking Bad?" If that was the case, I would of gone off on how amazing that show f***ing was
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 10:35 AM

View PostChaos, on 16 September 2013 - 11:16 PM, said:

As refreshing as Mornhinweg is after a season with Sparano, he really needs to stick to the run if it's working. Geno was throwing way too much other there when Ivory and Bilal were doing fine running the rock. Makes no sense to me.


I don't think marty's brain is wired that way. Even with top notch runners in philly they would still throw it 40+ times a game.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:55 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 September 2013 - 11:14 AM, said:

Offense:

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Last night we saw a future first ballot HOFer and likely Top 3 All Time QB looks average because he was surrounded by guys who ran shitty routes and can't catch the ball. That's been our mantra for the last 3 years and it's getting old. Geno can take the blame for the INTs, which he should because those 3 throws were terrible, but he's a rookie starting his first game on the road & the offense needed to pick him up. Gates is fast becoming Clowney 2.0, a preseason MVP who shrinks when it matters. Hill needs a new set of hands. Even the "nice" catch that he made late in the game was a body catch. I'm not even going to go into that fumble, which essentially was the difference in the ballgame. Our best WR is Holmes. When your best skill position player is a diva coming off of a major injury, you're going to have a bad time. You can almost see Sanchez smirking on the sideline thinking "At least this kid has an OC..." which brings me to my next point:

WTF Marty?! Ivory was averaging 4.7 YPC. When you saw him in the huddle, the Pats D line was petrified. You know how many carries Ivory got in the 4th Q? ONE!!! That's crazy in it of itself, then when you add that you're starting a rookie on the road in a monsoon, Ivory should've had 10-12 more carries than he did. Speaking of ugly, you know how you go to a club and see a good looking chick hanging out with a fat girl? Then you see that same good looking chick without the fat girl and all of a sudden, she's not that good looking anymore? That's Powell. Last season compared to Greene he looked like a marginal starter. So far this season, he looks like Thomas Jones without a second gear. Powell might have the slowest first step of all teh RBs I've seen. He has to race to the hole because he's so damn slow out of his stance. How he got more than double the carries Ivory got is beyond me. I understand that he's a better passblocker, that's cool. Bring him in on 3rd downs then. There's no reason he is taking carries away from Ivory. Some people complain about the gameplan, but that's neither here nor there. If the WRs make half those catches (Gates, Hill & Spadola) no one is complaining because we're moving the ball.

It wasn't all bad. I feel like our OL, especially Ducasse, are really coming along. Brick had some bad moments against Chandler Jones, but 2 of those sacks was on Geno. He's going to learn that he isn't in the ACC anymore and he can't wait until 8 MISSISSIPPI to get rid of the ball. I said it at the end of last season and during preseason, Ducasse is looking like the roadgrader we hoped he would be. Still a bad 2nd rounder, but if he keeps this up, he's a good interior OL and one less hole we need to plug in the future.

Can someone put Cumberland's face on a milk carton? I feel like I should report him missing.

Defense:

This wasn't a good showing for our boys. I know the stats looked great but if there's even half a decent WR out there with Edelman, we're going to the half down 21. There was minimal pressure on Brady, even though we brought 4 and 5 rushers on virtually every play. I don't know what happened to Cro, but he's starting to look like shit. Last week he got a pass because V Jax is a beast, but this week he's struggling against UDFAs? He had to grab Thompkins because he fell for his shitty move? Cmon Cro! Milliner looks like Kyle Wilson on his bad day. He never looks for the ball and plays the WR. He's already benched so that tells you that. Wilson had a decent game in the slot, which is what he is. I wish he'd step up and becoming something more than a 3rd CB on a team with 1 CB but that's why Mike T is working in a TV studio now. I'm not going to mention the safeties because they didn't get tested. I don't think Brady even targeted his TE once.

The Run D so far has been a pleasant surprise and Davis looks like he's really coming into his own. His speed was on display in Week 1 and last night he really stepped up in the Run D. Hopefully Q comes back sooner rather than later and we get an edge rusher... but we've been saying that since the Abraham trade.

I'm not one to talk because I make plenty of long posts but its pretty funny and ironic to see SHJ to put his foot up his own a$$.

Unless I'm wrong I'm pretty damn SHJ has stated many times about his "THREE LINE LIMIT FOR READING POSTS AND MAKING POSTS" and anything more is not worth reading.


So what is up with the essay SHJ? According to your own words your post isn't even worth reading or acknowledging.


I'm just ragging you for saying that dumb sh*t in the first place. The way I see it as long as someone makes a post worth reading whats it matter?
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Posted 18 September 2013 - 02:34 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 18 September 2013 - 12:55 AM, said:

I'm not one to talk because I make plenty of long posts but its pretty funny and ironic to see SHJ to put his foot up his own a$$.

Unless I'm wrong I'm pretty damn SHJ has stated many times about his "THREE LINE LIMIT FOR READING POSTS AND MAKING POSTS" and anything more is not worth reading.


So what is up with the essay SHJ? According to your own words your post isn't even worth reading or acknowledging.


I'm just ragging you for saying that dumb sh*t in the first place. The way I see it as long as someone makes a post worth reading whats it matter?


Bobby, what are you doing? Why you shitting in your hand and flinging it across the cage? Stop monkeying around. My 3 lines or less rule is specific to Mr Jet and his NON-NFL related debates. If I can read the weekly TMQ articles, I can read almost anything any length football related.
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Posted 18 September 2013 - 03:42 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 September 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Bobby, what are you doing? Why you shitting in your hand and flinging it across the cage? Stop monkeying around. My 3 lines or less rule is specific to Mr Jet and his NON-NFL related debates. If I can read the weekly TMQ articles, I can read almost anything any length football related.


hahah Bobby.

SHJ... you make me chuckle.
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Posted 19 September 2013 - 05:53 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 September 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Bobby, what are you doing? Why you shitting in your hand and flinging it across the cage? Stop monkeying around. My 3 lines or less rule is specific to Mr Jet and his NON-NFL related debates. If I can read the weekly TMQ articles, I can read almost anything any length football related.

LoL man. Your comeback was great and funny as hell. I love people with a sense of humor. To bad everyone cant take the fun side. To much fighting over stupid crap and not enough humor like this man.

Sad thing is I always hated the name Bobby when I was younger. All my family members have always to this day called me Bobby so I'm used to it now but anyone else not family related calls me Rob or Robert. So you adding the Bobby in the little kid context like you did made your comment even more funny.

Also thanks for making your three line limit rule clear.

Still was fun messing with you about it though.
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