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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:19 PM

Positives:

Lets start off with this defense. For years it seemed that our defense was more smoke and mirrors than actually great. RBs like Spiller and Muscle Hamster used to give us hell on the edges. Not anymore. DeMario Davis is the difference maker on this unit. The DL is stout, and once the play goes wide, DMD beats the FB or pulling G to the edge and turn the play inside. His raw speed was the reason he was drafted but he quickly erased any memories of Bart Scott. If this kid can keep progressing, watch out. I mentioned the DL, and really, it's all the DL. They're playing fantastico. Mo, Richardson & Snacks are probably the best 1-2-3 we could've hoped for. Didn't see much of Q this game, but I'm sure he's far from 100%. Honorable mention goes to Barnes, who is doing a great job off the edge and Cromartie who for the first time really looked like Cromartie.

On the other side of the ball... Powell? Goddamn I guess I'm going to put the hateroade back in the fridge for one week. Trully a great game. He had some holes but he ran hard and got great YAC. Still would like to see a lot more Ivory, but he hurt his hammy and Powell racking up yards like a slow Curtis Martin is going to put him on the bench. The OL had a rough two weeks going up against the Bucs and the Pats and they finally had a good matchup vs a team that's pretty bad at run stopping and they took full advantage.

Speaking of taking advantage, game ball goes to Santonio "I Have One Good Game A Year" Holmes. Truly turned on the whatever-the-f***-switch he has and abused the Bills DB. That last TD was terrific. I actually think he caught that with one hand while fighting the DB off with the other. He actually looked like he gave a crap today. I guess he likes an offense that throws the ball even though we're up, we're starting a rookie and we're rolling on the ground. The playcalling in general is a bit frustrating. Marty Mo is going to put his foot on the gas and keep it there, no matter what. On the one hand, this is fun as hell, on the other, this is highly inefficient. We could've ran a lot more clock off the board and kept our defense on the sideline had we ran the ball more on 1st and 2nd down. Maybe the penalties took us out of some early down run distances but overall, we're throwing the shit out of the ball and having had 6 years of Schotty/Sparano, this is a shock to the system.

Did you guys see Stephen Hill catch the ball with his chest plate on that TD? Awesome! I swear this kid is a JUGS machine away from superstardom!

Since we're about to head into the negatives, I'm gonna give Geno his props. I'm not worried about the INTs as much as I'm impressed by how pissed he gets in the game. You seen the shots of him with his eyes narrowed almost to a squint? He's got some type of instinct that Sanchez didn't have. He doesn't just want to bang bitches and be liked. He's got a chip on his shoulder and he wants to prove that he should've never lasted to the 2nd round. His mechanics are fine, his footwork is still a work in progress and his decision making is about where you expect it to be but the dude looks like he will curse the shit out of your kids if you're on the other team and that's what we need.

Negatives:

Ivory where the f*** are you? Seriously. You lost your job to Powell. It's done. I'm dropping you from my FF team. It's over.

Cumberland? The only time I heard his name was on a holding call. Speaking of which, Vlad... I'm a big Vlad supporter and I think he's made great strides from being a bust to becoming serviceable but this was a bad game for him. In general, the penalties were a little out of control. I think the refs did a terrible job as far as keeping the calls legit. Most border line calls went against the Jets. We had 2 fumbles negated due to ambiguous holds that were borderline and aside from Kyle Wilson, who completely lost it, the team wasn't as undisciplined as the stats show.

Kyle Wilson got abused by the one guy that's probably too much for any DB to cover 1 on 1. Wilson style of play is sloppy and reactionary and he had way too much of Stevie in his hands on it seems like every play. On the other hand, on a few replays, the calls were really touchy and they could've let some of those go.
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:06 PM

My takeaway from the games today were.

We need to stop making stupid mistakes on defense, the multiple jumps, and Kyle Wilson F up's almost ruined us.
Rex needs to be smarter when challenging
Santonio when he's on is an absolute beast, he was FIRED up today.
D-line unit has become a force.
Clyde Gates is becoming the new David Clowney.

And most importantly, holy shit Metlife gets LOUD.
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:17 AM

http://www.nfl.com/v...k-Bills-vs-Jets

Sheldon Richardson* is deff worthy of being up in the banner. If he stays healthy that Dline should get better every week.

*always exercise caution with player as 05 will remind you to acknowledge the fact that he knew he existed in college
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:07 PM

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:48 PM

You say you want to see more Ivory, then you blast Ivory? As you mentioned, he got hurt that game and only had a few carries. I feel like we run the better out of the pistol and shotgun, when we can spread teams out more.

I like that we run outside more than last season, had some really effective outside runs yesterday. Sparano had us leading the league in runs up the gut.

I noticed Coples out there, he had a TFL and a few QB hits. He had some nice pressure on plays but was just off on getting sacks. He had 57 snaps yesterday, that is out of 86.

David Harris has been playing terrific so far. I thought he was done but hes playing at a high level right now, I think the dominant DL in front of him is helping the LBs out, taking blockers off of them. Also Davis being next to him helps, as Davis can be used to cover and gets outside on plays, allowing them to mask Harris' lack of speed more.



What I like about Geno is that hes not afraid out there to make plays. Hes attacking weak DBs downfield. He saw that mismatch with Rogers covering Holmes 1 on 1 and exploited it. It was a thing of beauty, he looked off the safety then fired a laser right into Holmes in stride. He has the arm to hit the guys downfield where they don't have to wait and can get the YAC, something we were AWFUL at with Sanchez.
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 01:55 PM

View Postsantana, on 22 September 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

http://www.nfl.com/v...k-Bills-vs-Jets

Sheldon Richardson* is deff worthy of being up in the banner. If he stays healthy that Dline should get better every week.

*always exercise caution with player as 05 will remind you to acknowledge the fact that he knew he existed in college


richardson feels like a steal at 13. milner feels like a bust. he's the 5th bets CB on our roster. not acceptable for a 1st round pick
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 03:10 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 23 September 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

richardson feels like a steal at 13. milner feels like a bust. he's the 5th bets CB on our roster. not acceptable for a 1st round pick

He isn't the 5th best CB on the roster and he actually looked very good yesterday when in. Though he had only 22 snaps.
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 06:11 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 23 September 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

He isn't the 5th best CB on the roster and he actually looked very good yesterday when in. Though he had only 22 snaps.


he gets beat every play IDK what you were watching.

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ok he's the 4th best CB on our team
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 06:22 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 23 September 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

he gets beat every play IDK what you were watching.

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ok he's the 4th best CB on our team


Not yesterday. He was stride for stride with receivers every time he was targeted, unlike the New England game when he got abused.
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 07:02 PM

Jets could easily be 3-0 right now. Nice to see Hill actually making cathes this season. Saw Sanchez in the middle of the field during a timeout talking to Santonio. He's aching to get in there somehow. He should know that he'll never get that spot back even if healthy. I really think the jets will regress as the season goes along.
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 10:02 PM

Ivory was injured. He hurt his hamstring again. It seems that he still hasn't shaken the injury bug.

Wilson needs to get his head screwed on straight. Don't make this personal.
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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:29 AM

View Postsexyrexy, on 23 September 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

Not yesterday. He was stride for stride with receivers every time he was targeted, unlike the New England game when he got abused.



even the few times he is stride for stride, he still lets up the catch. never turns his head and locates teh ball. he just get PI or lets up the catch. he looks lost
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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:52 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 24 September 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

even the few times he is stride for stride, he still lets up the catch. never turns his head and locates teh ball. he just get PI or lets up the catch. he looks lost


Again, that didn't happen vs the Bills. He was turning his head and I don't remember him giving up a catch.
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Posted 24 September 2013 - 01:07 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 24 September 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

Again, that didn't happen vs the Bills. He was turning his head and I don't remember him giving up a catch.


Agreed milliner will be fine. It was his 3rd game. Kyle Wilson on the other hand is a liability and hasn't made a play in years. Shocked he still starts/plays in this league. Walls and/or milliner are major upgrades over Wilson and I'm not basing this just off of Sundays debacle for Wilson.
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Posted 24 September 2013 - 03:15 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 24 September 2013 - 10:29 AM, said:

even the few times he is stride for stride, he still lets up the catch. never turns his head and locates teh ball. he just get PI or lets up the catch. he looks lost


I have no idea what you were watching Sunday, because from the sound of things you certainly didn't watch the Jets game.
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