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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Santonio Holmes has blast of 'Tone Time' past for New York Jets

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. (AP) — If the lights are on at the New York Jets’ facility, there’s a good chance Santonio Holmes is there.

Through morning workouts and late-night treatments, he’s pushing himself to get back to being the big-time playmaker he once was. That’s what consumes Holmes these days.

“He’s in this building, and I’m not exaggerating much,” offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg said, “Sixteen or 18 hours a day.”

The veteran wide receiver insists he’s not completely healthy yet, and his surgically repaired left foot still hurts every day.

But Holmes has shown he still has plenty left, putting up a career-high 154 yards receiving on five receptions last Sunday against Buffalo — including the go-ahead 69-yard touchdown — and re-establishing himself as an important piece of the offense.

That’s even if he won’t declare himself officially 100 percent back.

“No, I won’t do that to myself,” Holmes said. “I’ve said I have a long ways to go. It’s only my third game back from a full year recovering.”

Nearly a year ago — Sept. 30 against San Francisco — Holmes caught a short pass on the first play of the fourth quarter and felt a sharp pain in his foot. He tossed the ball away as he grabbed at his foot in agony.

It ended his season and put his career in jeopardy. Two surgeries followed along with a slow, steady rehabilitation process that began, as Holmes put it, with him re-learning how to walk.

He suffered a Lisfranc injury, which usually involves separation of ligaments and joints in the middle of the foot.

Not good for any athlete, particularly one whose job it is to outrun defenders on every snap.

Holmes has come a long way from just a few months ago, when there appeared to be no chance that he would be ready to start the season. Not when he couldn’t run, let alone make a cut or run a route.

“As I always said (during camp), ‘I hope he plays,’” coach Rex Ryan said. “Now you guys know why I was hoping he plays. He’s a legitimate No. 1 receiver.”

Through three games, Holmes has nine catches for 218 yards and the go-ahead score against the Bills.

The numbers might not be spectacular, but he’s making the types of plays again that earned him the nickname “Tone Time” for coming through when the offense needed him most.

“I have to attack it as if I’m going to continue being a starter and a playmaker for this team,” Holmes said. “I have to continue to stay healthy and, with God’s will, if I can stay healthy throughout the season, who knows what’s going to be in store from this point on forward?”

Holmes and rookie quarterback Geno Smith are still working on their chemistry, since they had no real practice time together during the offseason.

“The more he gets healthy and the more he gets comfortable in this offense, the more he gets back to full strength and full speed,” Smith said. “He’s always been a wily vet, so he knows how to get open, even when he’s not feeling 100 percent. He makes the tough catch.

“He’s one of those guys you can always rely on, and it’s good to have a guy like that on your side.”

Holmes is still working on sharpening the nuances of the game: tracking the ball, using his hands and eyes, getting his timing down and making sure he always maintains his focus.

“He is a diligent, diligent guy,” Mornhinweg said. “Football’s important to him, and he’s a real pro.”

On the winning touchdown last Sunday, Smith hit Holmes in stride and the wide receiver, grabbing the ball over his shoulder with a last-second look, broke free of defensive back Justin Rogers and scooted into the end zone.

If there was a play to officially mark Holmes’ return, it was that one. And Holmes stretched out his arms, acting like a plane, and smiled as he flew around and his teammates mobbed him.

“Santonio’s been a baller since we were drafted together,” said Jets guard Willie Colon, who came into the league with Holmes in 2006 with Pittsburgh. “That’s the Santonio I know, and that’s the only Santonio I know.

“He’s a lot of things, but he’s a gamer and I love him to death. I’m glad he’s a Jet.”

NOTES: Rookie CB Dee Milliner did not practice with a tweaked left hamstring and his status for the game at Tennessee was uncertain. Ryan said Darrin Walls would start opposite Antonio Cromartie with Kyle Wilson playing in nickel packages if Milliner can’t go. … Holley Mangold, the younger sister of Jets C Nick Mangold, will be a contestant on NBC’s “The Biggest Loser,” starting Oct. 8. Holley Mangold competed as a weightlifter for the 2012 U.S. Olympic team and is looking to get in better shape, with her focus on the 2016 Games in Rio de Janeiro.

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