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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:24 AM

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@ESPNNFL - THIS JUST IN: The NFL is mulling the possibility of expanding to 14 playoff teams and cutting preseason to 3 games. (via @MortReport)


So losing/.500 record = playoffs? :banghead:
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:41 AM

Hate it!!! stick with 12. 12 get in and 20 go home
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 12:32 PM

It may stop the rare occasions where a 10-6 or better team misses out on the playoffs, but expanding the playoffs to 14 would more often lead to 8-8 teams making it in. Plus you'd have to eliminate the #2 seed getting a bye or have a play-in game between the #7 and #6 seeds, which would add in another week and disadvantage the top two seeds who would be out of action for a fortnight.
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:41 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 29 September 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

It may stop the rare occasions where a 10-6 or better team misses out on the playoffs, but expanding the playoffs to 14 would more often lead to 8-8 teams making it in. Plus you'd have to eliminate the #2 seed getting a bye or have a play-in game between the #7 and #6 seeds, which would add in another week and disadvantage the top two seeds who would be out of action for a fortnight.


Its so they make sure the whole nfc east gets in every year haha
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:26 PM

no just no then we'll have 7-9 teams in the playoffs
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Posted 01 October 2013 - 12:10 PM

Let's not forget.....Seattle made it in a couple years back with a 7-9 record. The expansion is meant to prevent situations like this in that there were teams with more wins that did not make it into the postseason because of the current structure. I have a feeling we're going to end up seeing more 7-9 regardless.
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Posted 01 October 2013 - 05:02 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 October 2013 - 10:10 AM, said:

Let's not forget.....Seattle made it in a couple years back with a 7-9 record. The expansion is meant to prevent situations like this in that there were teams with more wins that did not make it into the postseason because of the current structure. I have a feeling we're going to end up seeing more 7-9 regardless.


at this rate the cowboys might win the NFC east at 6-10
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Posted 03 October 2013 - 03:17 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 01 October 2013 - 06:02 PM, said:

at this rate the cowboys might win the NFC east at 6-10


This season that is entirely possible. Washington has imploded. Chip Kelly got figured out in just 2 weeks. The Giants can't seem to get out of their own way or stop a wet paper bag so the division is primed for Dallas to win. Believe it or not the AFC East is currently the most competitive if you think about it considering there's no team under .500 at the moment.
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Posted 03 October 2013 - 03:59 PM

Here's the teams that would have qualified for the playoffs over the last few years if 7 teams made it:

2012: Steelers (8-8), Bears (10-6)
2011: Titans (9-7, 1 game ahead of the dysfunctional Jets!!!), Bears (8-8)
2010: Chargers (9-7), Giants (10-6) - this is the year the Seahawks won the NFC West at 7-9, and two 10-6 NFC teams missed the playoffs
2009: Texans (9-7), Falcons (9-7)
2008: Patriots (11-5 - 8-8 Chargers made it as AFC West champions), Buccaneers (9-7)
2007: Browns (10-6), Vikings (8-8)
2006: Broncos (9-7), Rams (8-8)
2005: Chiefs (10-6), Cowboys (9-7)
2004: Bills (9-7), Saints (8-8 - two 8-8 teams, the Vikings and Rams, made it to the postseason!)
2003: Dolphins (10-6), Vikings (9-7)

So that's five 8-8 teams, nine 9-7 teams, five 10-6 teams and one 11-5 team.

While only a quarter of teams are 8-8, nearly three quarters of the teams that would have qualified finished with eight or nine wins. 9-7 may be a winning record - and one of our recent AFC Championship games came with that record - but it would still mainly benefit mediocre teams; the difference between 9-7 and 7-9, after all, is really usually a lucky break or two.
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Posted 04 October 2013 - 08:00 AM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 03 October 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

Here's the teams that would have qualified for the playoffs over the last few years if 7 teams made it:

2012: Steelers (8-8), Bears (10-6)
2011: Titans (9-7, 1 game ahead of the dysfunctional Jets!!!), Bears (8-8)
2010: Chargers (9-7), Giants (10-6) - this is the year the Seahawks won the NFC West at 7-9, and two 10-6 NFC teams missed the playoffs
2009: Texans (9-7), Falcons (9-7)
2008: Patriots (11-5 - 8-8 Chargers made it as AFC West champions), Buccaneers (9-7)
2007: Browns (10-6), Vikings (8-8)
2006: Broncos (9-7), Rams (8-8)
2005: Chiefs (10-6), Cowboys (9-7)
2004: Bills (9-7), Saints (8-8 - two 8-8 teams, the Vikings and Rams, made it to the postseason!)
2003: Dolphins (10-6), Vikings (9-7)

So that's five 8-8 teams, nine 9-7 teams, five 10-6 teams and one 11-5 team.

While only a quarter of teams are 8-8, nearly three quarters of the teams that would have qualified finished with eight or nine wins. 9-7 may be a winning record - and one of our recent AFC Championship games came with that record - but it would still mainly benefit mediocre teams; the difference between 9-7 and 7-9, after all, is really usually a lucky break or two.

Nice work Smeds! I would not complain with those teams making it in.
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Posted 04 October 2013 - 05:41 PM

Funniest thing here: Chip Kelly got "figured out"
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Posted 05 October 2013 - 10:27 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 04 October 2013 - 06:41 PM, said:

Funniest thing here: Chip Kelly got "figured out"


I know. Not the best phrase or a Pulitzer type statement but weeks 1 & 2, their Offense was clicking. After that, they haven't done shit. 33 Wk 1, 30 Wk 2, 16 wk 3 & 20 wk 4.
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 05:08 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 05 October 2013 - 11:27 PM, said:

I know. Not the best phrase or a Pulitzer type statement but weeks 1 & 2, their Offense was clicking. After that, they haven't done shit. 33 Wk 1, 30 Wk 2, 16 wk 3 & 20 wk 4.


He hasn't been figured out.
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 02:27 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 06 October 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

He hasn't been figured out.

Not sure what you mean by that?

I thought he was nothing but an as usual "over hyped" college coach before the season started. And the way I see it Kelly is just a repeat of what most college coaches do in their first NFL coaching job. Most fail miserably. Second timers tend to do better.

I didn't think Kelly was going to come into the NFL and change the NFL as the media acted like he was going to do and he hasn't proven me wrong yet. If he lasts more than a few years before being fired I will be surprised. I expect him to go back to college in the next few years.
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 03:03 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 07 October 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Not sure what you mean by that?

I thought he was nothing but an as usual "over hyped" college coach before the season started. And the way I see it Kelly is just a repeat of what most college coaches do in their first NFL coaching job. Most fail miserably. Second timers tend to do better.

I didn't think Kelly was going to come into the NFL and change the NFL as the media acted like he was going to do and he hasn't proven me wrong yet. If he lasts more than a few years before being fired I will be surprised. I expect him to go back to college in the next few years.


He hasn't proclaimed to "try to change the NFL" or anything of the sort. He doesn't even have his QB in (or most of his guys), he is coaching a team most predicted to win 6 games this season (on that pace). Oh and he has a chance to win the division still.

You don't "figure" someone out in 5 games. He's not had enough time to judge him.
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Posted 23 December 2013 - 07:26 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 03 October 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:

This season that is entirely possible. Washington has imploded. Chip Kelly got figured out in just 2 weeks. The Giants can't seem to get out of their own way or stop a wet paper bag so the division is primed for Dallas to win. Believe it or not the AFC East is currently the most competitive if you think about it considering there's no team under .500 at the moment.



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Funniest thing here: Chip Kelly got "figured out"



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Not sure what you mean by that?

I thought he was nothing but an as usual "over hyped" college coach before the season started. And the way I see it Kelly is just a repeat of what most college coaches do in their first NFL coaching job. Most fail miserably. Second timers tend to do better.

I didn't think Kelly was going to come into the NFL and change the NFL as the media acted like he was going to do and he hasn't proven me wrong yet. If he lasts more than a few years before being fired I will be surprised. I expect him to go back to college in the next few years.



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:38 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 23 December 2013 - 07:26 AM, said:

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Not so much Chip Kelly as it is Foles. If not for Foles this team would definitely not be in this position.Not even close. Trying to say anything different is a bunch of crap. The gm is the genius for bringing Foles in.Not to mention Foles got in due to injury not some genius coaching decision.

On top of that the NFC East is a total toilet with Dallas having one of the worst defenses in the NFL still having a chance to win and get in next week. Also if Philly loses next week they will have went 3-3 in one of the if not the worst division in football.Some divisions have worse records but this division is just plain terrible.

So that said I'm still not convinced he is some great coach yet. Lets be logical and revisit this topic in a another year or two to see how this team fares multiple years. You can use Rex is an example. The team he was given had a heck of a lot of talent and made it to the AFC Championship two years with a sh*t qb and was considered a great coach but now that the team has had very little talent he is considered a terrible coach by many.

I find what Reid has done with the Chiefs far more impressive than a Philly team that could go 9-7 and be out of the playoffs but we will see what they are really about in the playoffs since they are more likely to win next week with Romo out.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:02 AM

As far as adding more playoff teams as to the initial thread question I'm against it like many others. However Id like to see the seeding rules changed. In the NBA you can get a higher seed even if you aren't a division winner. I like those rules because in my mind a division winner that goes 9-7,8-8, or whatever shouldn't get a home playoff game over a team that didn't win its division and has a better record.
The NFC South and NFC West Wild Card teams both will have a better record(unless the Saints lose to the Bucs week 17) than either of the NFC North or NFC East division winner.

Basically just saying that winning a division shouldn't always guarantee a 3rd or 4th seed if they have a bad record. Id like to see division winners with bad worse records than the current wild card teams get 5th and 6th seeds.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 08:03 AM

Yeah, Chip Kelly gets no credit for Nick Foles season. None.

Chip Kelly is the coach. Who is known for offense. Who you said was figured out.

He's now 2nd in the league in points scored and about to go to the playoffs with a team everyone said would be drafting inside the top 5.

Stoppit.
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