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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:12 PM

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:06 PM


STUDS:
Kellen Winslow
Bilal Powell


Duds:
Geno
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Ducasse
JETS Fans for being on the ledge after 2-2 start???? RE-f***ing-LAX

JETS are 2-2 after 4 games, we have a QB that got thrust into the job and he is definitely a step above BUTTFUMBLE, no need to start shitting yourselves after 4 games when we are 2-2 and in games that we keep hurting ourselves with penalties and turnovers, fix that and this team is in a better position, but 2-2 after the first 4 games in the season...I'll f***ing TAKE IT

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 08:02 PM

Geno has no Zip on the ball Need more zip on every throw.
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:38 PM

Studs:
Folk
Powell

Duds:
Everyone else

Mega Duds:
Ducasse
Geno


This was the worst performance I've ever seen by a QB. Yes we have seen Sanchez throw more picks. We've seen Penny throw more picks, this isn't about quantity as much as it is about the whole package. Geno Smith looked like he had no clue what he was doing on the field. In my mind, his two worst plays (other than him trying to switch hands behind his back while getting sacked in the endzone... that's horrific) weren't TOs. The "sack" at the 1 was awful. He took the snap, and drifted back 15 yards into his own endzone... all the while looking at Ropati. He had ample time to throw the ball away and he's lucky that the ref blew the whistle when he did, I think 8 out of 10 times thats a safety. His other play that made me cover my eyes was a fastball to a wide open Gates. That pass looked like it was fired out of a canon... which is good except it made the catch 100 times more difficult. Gates was wide open, a simple dart to the chest and he's scoring a TD. Instead he uncorcked a FB that was about 2 feet too high and went off the fingertips of Gates. Just no touch whatsoever. I don't know how we recover from this, our whole goal is to keep the game ugly enough to win it in the end. When you're giving up turnovers at the pace that Geno is going, it's too much to ask for a defense to keep you in there.

Next week we face a desperate Atlanta team in Atlanta without Holmes and Hill. It's going to be more of the same.
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:21 AM

Its one game. It was probably the worst game I have seen in a while. We need to even our expectations. I do believe we are a better team than what played yesterday but not as good as what played VS the Bills. We have alot of young new players and some real lack in the skill positions on Offense. We all knew this was going to be a tough year. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 01:00 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 30 September 2013 - 05:38 AM, said:

Studs:
Folk
Powell

Duds:
Everyone else

Mega Duds:
Ducasse
Geno


This was the worst performance I've ever seen by a QB. Yes we have seen Sanchez throw more picks. We've seen Penny throw more picks, this isn't about quantity as much as it is about the whole package. Geno Smith looked like he had no clue what he was doing on the field. In my mind, his two worst plays (other than him trying to switch hands behind his back while getting sacked in the endzone... that's horrific) weren't TOs. The "sack" at the 1 was awful. He took the snap, and drifted back 15 yards into his own endzone... all the while looking at Ropati. He had ample time to throw the ball away and he's lucky that the ref blew the whistle when he did, I think 8 out of 10 times thats a safety. His other play that made me cover my eyes was a fastball to a wide open Gates. That pass looked like it was fired out of a canon... which is good except it made the catch 100 times more difficult. Gates was wide open, a simple dart to the chest and he's scoring a TD. Instead he uncorcked a FB that was about 2 feet too high and went off the fingertips of Gates. Just no touch whatsoever. I don't know how we recover from this, our whole goal is to keep the game ugly enough to win it in the end. When you're giving up turnovers at the pace that Geno is going, it's too much to ask for a defense to keep you in there.

Next week we face a desperate Atlanta team in Atlanta without Holmes and Hill. It's going to be more of the same.


It was like watching Sanchez at home against Buffalo his rookie year. There were some utterly brainless plays he made as you said, and it seemed as though he was shellshocked as soon as he threw that first pick. The TD drive he led was well executed, but it could be argued Tennessee had taken the foot off the gas by then. Still, I'm kind of glad those daft mistakes came in the one game rather than being spread out across our first four games of the season.

While he was bad, the coaches need to make an example of most of the team regarding yet another undisciplined (a holding call on a touchback?!) and sloppy display. Powell played well, Winslow was solid, Folk made both his kicks again and the run defence was stout. But there were far too many penalties for the second week in a row, the secondary was poor and the OLine offered little protection.

Perhaps this team needed a game like that though as the 2-1 start may have masked certain deficiencies? Yesterday's game showed that the majority of the time playing like that will get you punished severely.
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 03:03 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 30 September 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:

Its one game. It was probably the worst game I have seen in a while. We need to even our expectations. I do believe we are a better team than what played yesterday but not as good as what played VS the Bills. We have alot of young new players and some real lack in the skill positions on Offense. We all knew this was going to be a tough year. Sit back and enjoy the ride.


Thats true. and he is a rookie. at least he isn't getting paid 100 million and throwing 5 picks like flacco
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 08:29 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 30 September 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

It was like watching Sanchez at home against Buffalo his rookie year. There were some utterly brainless plays he made as you said, and it seemed as though he was shellshocked as soon as he threw that first pick. The TD drive he led was well executed, but it could be argued Tennessee had taken the foot off the gas by then. Still, I'm kind of glad those daft mistakes came in the one game rather than being spread out across our first four games of the season.

While he was bad, the coaches need to make an example of most of the team regarding yet another undisciplined (a holding call on a touchback?!) and sloppy display. Powell played well, Winslow was solid, Folk made both his kicks again and the run defence was stout. But there were far too many penalties for the second week in a row, the secondary was poor and the OLine offered little protection.

Perhaps this team needed a game like that though as the 2-1 start may have masked certain deficiencies? Yesterday's game showed that the majority of the time playing like that will get you punished severely.

You need to dampen your expectations a bit. None of us are happy about the interceptions and frankly I dont think Geno has deserved any stud ratings by us this year just because we won a sloppy game where he turned the ball over multiple times. This game we lost so he then gets a dud.

Anyway not every qb can come into the league and look amazing right away. Some need time. Geno has ten times the skill and potential that Sanchez had. But Sanchez came into a much better situation his first two seasons having so many league number 1 areas to help him. The defense saved many games and won for us that Sanchez didn't play well along with the running game and the league best offensive line.

Geno doesn't have that kind of talent to come into and he is getting hit almost every play.Frisco had a good team before Kap came in.

Ducasse still sucks in my opinion and should be a backup at best. The announcer said he looked great in one game but I didn't see it. Ducasse has gotten beaten bad at least twice every game and got his qb crushed. It makes sense why he is getting holding penalties.The word is still out on Brick but I think he is going downhill slowly. Plus we have Howard who is doing ok but lets not forget he was a St Louis throw away. Not to mention I wouldn't say he has the the best running game or receiving core to help him either.

I dont blame Geno for any of the fumbles behind the line because they are clearly the result of the o-line constantly getting beat. I dont like the interceptions like any other Jets fan but I do see a couple huge differences between Geno and Sanchez. The offense is driving more with Geno than it did with Sanchez, With Sanchez unless we were playing a terrible team he struggled to throw for even 200 yards( he had tons of games with under 200 yards passing which is really bad) and unless it was a bad team we were lucky if Mark threw for 2 tds. 3 tds was even rarer.

Geno is passing the ball down field far more than Sanchez ever did. Heck either the 2nd or 3rd game the announcers said it was the most down field passing of Jets qbs since the 90`s. And from what Ive seen more often than not Geno is putting the ball where the receivers can catch the ball easily which I rarely saw from Mark. Geno is far more accurate with short and down field passing. Most of Geno`s int`s are like 20 yards down field. Sanchez made a habit of throwing a 6 yard pass leading to an int which is why he had so many pick 6`s. At least with a down field int there is much less chance of a pick 6. I dont like the int`s but I dont want him to quit throwing long passes and just throw 5 yard passes and have a stagnate offense like we have had for years. The last thing is that while the int`s are bad ...most of them are actually on target. Geno is just not seeing the other defender(the help)and they are intercepting the ball. It isn't the main guy on coverage getting the ball.

Basically as bad as it looks there is hope for Geno. I never saw that in Sanchez ever. I thought from the end of the 1st year he wasn't any good and was sure of it early the 2nd year. All Geno has to do is learn to read the post snap defense better and make sure he sees enough of the field where he can see the help defenders. If he can do that most of his problems are solved. It would help too if he wasn't getting crushed almost every play.

Don't give up on the kid so early guys.He has a lot of talent and far less problem areas than Mark had. He only needs to correct one area. Mark had like 5 or 6 bad areas.
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