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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:23 AM) preseason or not, our offense hasn't looked competent in a while like it does this year. our rushing attack should be very good. Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory could be a dynamic duo
santana Icon : (Today, 10:14 AM) http://youtu.be/2X0H709cJkA
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:12 PM

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:06 PM


STUDS:
Kellen Winslow
Bilal Powell


Duds:
Geno
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Ducasse
JETS Fans for being on the ledge after 2-2 start???? RE-f***ing-LAX

JETS are 2-2 after 4 games, we have a QB that got thrust into the job and he is definitely a step above BUTTFUMBLE, no need to start shitting yourselves after 4 games when we are 2-2 and in games that we keep hurting ourselves with penalties and turnovers, fix that and this team is in a better position, but 2-2 after the first 4 games in the season...I'll f***ing TAKE IT

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 08:02 PM

Geno has no Zip on the ball Need more zip on every throw.
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:38 PM

Studs:
Folk
Powell

Duds:
Everyone else

Mega Duds:
Ducasse
Geno


This was the worst performance I've ever seen by a QB. Yes we have seen Sanchez throw more picks. We've seen Penny throw more picks, this isn't about quantity as much as it is about the whole package. Geno Smith looked like he had no clue what he was doing on the field. In my mind, his two worst plays (other than him trying to switch hands behind his back while getting sacked in the endzone... that's horrific) weren't TOs. The "sack" at the 1 was awful. He took the snap, and drifted back 15 yards into his own endzone... all the while looking at Ropati. He had ample time to throw the ball away and he's lucky that the ref blew the whistle when he did, I think 8 out of 10 times thats a safety. His other play that made me cover my eyes was a fastball to a wide open Gates. That pass looked like it was fired out of a canon... which is good except it made the catch 100 times more difficult. Gates was wide open, a simple dart to the chest and he's scoring a TD. Instead he uncorcked a FB that was about 2 feet too high and went off the fingertips of Gates. Just no touch whatsoever. I don't know how we recover from this, our whole goal is to keep the game ugly enough to win it in the end. When you're giving up turnovers at the pace that Geno is going, it's too much to ask for a defense to keep you in there.

Next week we face a desperate Atlanta team in Atlanta without Holmes and Hill. It's going to be more of the same.
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:21 AM

Its one game. It was probably the worst game I have seen in a while. We need to even our expectations. I do believe we are a better team than what played yesterday but not as good as what played VS the Bills. We have alot of young new players and some real lack in the skill positions on Offense. We all knew this was going to be a tough year. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 01:00 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 30 September 2013 - 05:38 AM, said:

Studs:
Folk
Powell

Duds:
Everyone else

Mega Duds:
Ducasse
Geno


This was the worst performance I've ever seen by a QB. Yes we have seen Sanchez throw more picks. We've seen Penny throw more picks, this isn't about quantity as much as it is about the whole package. Geno Smith looked like he had no clue what he was doing on the field. In my mind, his two worst plays (other than him trying to switch hands behind his back while getting sacked in the endzone... that's horrific) weren't TOs. The "sack" at the 1 was awful. He took the snap, and drifted back 15 yards into his own endzone... all the while looking at Ropati. He had ample time to throw the ball away and he's lucky that the ref blew the whistle when he did, I think 8 out of 10 times thats a safety. His other play that made me cover my eyes was a fastball to a wide open Gates. That pass looked like it was fired out of a canon... which is good except it made the catch 100 times more difficult. Gates was wide open, a simple dart to the chest and he's scoring a TD. Instead he uncorcked a FB that was about 2 feet too high and went off the fingertips of Gates. Just no touch whatsoever. I don't know how we recover from this, our whole goal is to keep the game ugly enough to win it in the end. When you're giving up turnovers at the pace that Geno is going, it's too much to ask for a defense to keep you in there.

Next week we face a desperate Atlanta team in Atlanta without Holmes and Hill. It's going to be more of the same.


It was like watching Sanchez at home against Buffalo his rookie year. There were some utterly brainless plays he made as you said, and it seemed as though he was shellshocked as soon as he threw that first pick. The TD drive he led was well executed, but it could be argued Tennessee had taken the foot off the gas by then. Still, I'm kind of glad those daft mistakes came in the one game rather than being spread out across our first four games of the season.

While he was bad, the coaches need to make an example of most of the team regarding yet another undisciplined (a holding call on a touchback?!) and sloppy display. Powell played well, Winslow was solid, Folk made both his kicks again and the run defence was stout. But there were far too many penalties for the second week in a row, the secondary was poor and the OLine offered little protection.

Perhaps this team needed a game like that though as the 2-1 start may have masked certain deficiencies? Yesterday's game showed that the majority of the time playing like that will get you punished severely.
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 03:03 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 30 September 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:

Its one game. It was probably the worst game I have seen in a while. We need to even our expectations. I do believe we are a better team than what played yesterday but not as good as what played VS the Bills. We have alot of young new players and some real lack in the skill positions on Offense. We all knew this was going to be a tough year. Sit back and enjoy the ride.


Thats true. and he is a rookie. at least he isn't getting paid 100 million and throwing 5 picks like flacco
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 08:29 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 30 September 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

It was like watching Sanchez at home against Buffalo his rookie year. There were some utterly brainless plays he made as you said, and it seemed as though he was shellshocked as soon as he threw that first pick. The TD drive he led was well executed, but it could be argued Tennessee had taken the foot off the gas by then. Still, I'm kind of glad those daft mistakes came in the one game rather than being spread out across our first four games of the season.

While he was bad, the coaches need to make an example of most of the team regarding yet another undisciplined (a holding call on a touchback?!) and sloppy display. Powell played well, Winslow was solid, Folk made both his kicks again and the run defence was stout. But there were far too many penalties for the second week in a row, the secondary was poor and the OLine offered little protection.

Perhaps this team needed a game like that though as the 2-1 start may have masked certain deficiencies? Yesterday's game showed that the majority of the time playing like that will get you punished severely.

You need to dampen your expectations a bit. None of us are happy about the interceptions and frankly I dont think Geno has deserved any stud ratings by us this year just because we won a sloppy game where he turned the ball over multiple times. This game we lost so he then gets a dud.

Anyway not every qb can come into the league and look amazing right away. Some need time. Geno has ten times the skill and potential that Sanchez had. But Sanchez came into a much better situation his first two seasons having so many league number 1 areas to help him. The defense saved many games and won for us that Sanchez didn't play well along with the running game and the league best offensive line.

Geno doesn't have that kind of talent to come into and he is getting hit almost every play.Frisco had a good team before Kap came in.

Ducasse still sucks in my opinion and should be a backup at best. The announcer said he looked great in one game but I didn't see it. Ducasse has gotten beaten bad at least twice every game and got his qb crushed. It makes sense why he is getting holding penalties.The word is still out on Brick but I think he is going downhill slowly. Plus we have Howard who is doing ok but lets not forget he was a St Louis throw away. Not to mention I wouldn't say he has the the best running game or receiving core to help him either.

I dont blame Geno for any of the fumbles behind the line because they are clearly the result of the o-line constantly getting beat. I dont like the interceptions like any other Jets fan but I do see a couple huge differences between Geno and Sanchez. The offense is driving more with Geno than it did with Sanchez, With Sanchez unless we were playing a terrible team he struggled to throw for even 200 yards( he had tons of games with under 200 yards passing which is really bad) and unless it was a bad team we were lucky if Mark threw for 2 tds. 3 tds was even rarer.

Geno is passing the ball down field far more than Sanchez ever did. Heck either the 2nd or 3rd game the announcers said it was the most down field passing of Jets qbs since the 90`s. And from what Ive seen more often than not Geno is putting the ball where the receivers can catch the ball easily which I rarely saw from Mark. Geno is far more accurate with short and down field passing. Most of Geno`s int`s are like 20 yards down field. Sanchez made a habit of throwing a 6 yard pass leading to an int which is why he had so many pick 6`s. At least with a down field int there is much less chance of a pick 6. I dont like the int`s but I dont want him to quit throwing long passes and just throw 5 yard passes and have a stagnate offense like we have had for years. The last thing is that while the int`s are bad ...most of them are actually on target. Geno is just not seeing the other defender(the help)and they are intercepting the ball. It isn't the main guy on coverage getting the ball.

Basically as bad as it looks there is hope for Geno. I never saw that in Sanchez ever. I thought from the end of the 1st year he wasn't any good and was sure of it early the 2nd year. All Geno has to do is learn to read the post snap defense better and make sure he sees enough of the field where he can see the help defenders. If he can do that most of his problems are solved. It would help too if he wasn't getting crushed almost every play.

Don't give up on the kid so early guys.He has a lot of talent and far less problem areas than Mark had. He only needs to correct one area. Mark had like 5 or 6 bad areas.
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