NYJetsFan.com Forums: Dee Millner First Round Bust!!? - NYJetsFan.com Forums

Jump to content

Toggle shoutbox NYJETSFAN BANTER

SECRETS AND LIES NOTHING BUT SECRETS AND LIES!!
azjetfan Icon : (03 March 2015 - 01:10 PM) Ryan is not a Bozo he is a cartoon character.
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 01:15 PM) anyone know anything about CB Kareem Jackson?
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 01:15 PM) FA from Houston. Obvious Mac connection.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 02:33 PM) NO TO MEVIS NO TO MEVIS
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 03:26 PM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 03:26 PM) FIRE BOWLES
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 03:26 PM) CONSTANT TURNOVER
azjetfan Icon : (03 March 2015 - 03:43 PM) I think we need to fire more people. Like Justin Beiber
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 04:22 PM) Kareem Jackson is a decent player, I would rather go elsewhere for CB though> He has been a streaky player, some bad seasons some good
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:23 PM) THE KNICKS
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:43 PM) @AdamSchefter: Filed to ESPN: Bills have notified LB Kiko Alonso he is going to be traded to Philadelphia for RB LeSean McCoy. Trade official next week.
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:43 PM) WOW. Rex is gearing up for ground and pound.
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:44 PM) Jets can sign Spiller now but they're going to need a new LB. Rex is gunning for David Harris.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Jets should trade Harris to Minnesota for Minnesota for AP
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Damn they got Shady
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:06 AM) #2 baby
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 PM) Cassel blows
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
Resize Shouts Area

Page 1 of 1

Dee Millner First Round Bust!!?

#1 User is offline   shrekman1 Icon

  • Free Agent
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 30
  • Joined: 21-December 08

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 27 October 2013 - 04:20 PM

So far this year Dee Millner has shown he is not a first round pick. A player who seems to get hurt a lot and is quite fragile . When on the field, is getting beat often! Rex benching him twice. Dont know of any other player who is getting benched as much as much as him. He is not the answer. What are your thoughts?
0

#2 User is offline   jet-man Icon

  • Drafted Rookie
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 196
  • Joined: 04-September 05

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:33 PM

bum for a 1st rd pick. he and kyle Wilson don't reflect 1st rd talent.
0

#3 User is offline   Chaos Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 3,132
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male

Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:14 PM

It's been eight games and he's a corner back. It'll take some time. Everyone needs to calm down about judging rookies so soon. Some catch on fast and some do not. Give him at least a season before stamping him a bust.
0

#4 User is offline   ROBJETS Icon

  • LB Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,457
  • Joined: 29-September 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:33 PM

View Postjet-man, on 27 October 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

bum for a 1st rd pick. he and kyle Wilson don't reflect 1st rd talent.

Milliner is a rookie. He deserves another year before classifying him a bust. Wilson is a total bust and needs to be cut. He is a total liability. Anyone that says difference needs to accept the fact that Wilson has constantly dropped in the depth chart every year. He is pretty much only used in the nickle and doesn't even do that well. He is 5th or 6th on the secondary depth chart and cant go any lower. Basically Wilson`s another Lowery if not worse. He has only lasted this long because he is cheap.


And by the way @shrekman1..... :sterb041:/>/>/>/> Spelling police here......... the man plays for your team please spell his name right...."Common Man"!

Its Milliner not Millner.


Just having fun with you man.
0

#5 User is offline   Jetsman05 Icon

  • Patron Saint of ESPNU
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 7,048
  • Joined: 17-July 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:South Carolina
  • Interests:Jets, Gators, Liverpool, Lightning

  • NFL Team:

Posted 28 October 2013 - 05:16 AM

View PostROBJETS, on 27 October 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

Milliner is a rookie. He deserves another year before classifying him a bust. Wilson is a total bust and needs to be cut. He is a total liability. Anyone that says difference needs to accept the fact that Wilson has constantly dropped in the depth chart every year. He is pretty much only used in the nickle and doesn't even do that well. He is 5th or 6th on the secondary depth chart and cant go any lower. Basically Wilson`s another Lowery if not worse. He has only lasted this long because he is cheap.


And by the way @shrekman1..... Posted Image/>/>/>/> Spelling police here......... the man plays for your team please spell his name right...."Common Man"!

Its Milliner not Millner.


Just having fun with you man.


I gave up on correcting people a long time ago. It's sad people can't even take the time to spell the players name but there's far too many people doing it to care anymore.

As for Dee, it's clearly a massive learning curve for the fella. Can't jump to conclusions yet but he's definitely going to need to improve later in the year and over the off-season. Pitiful display.
0

#6 User is offline   azjetfan Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 3,087
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cheese Land Baby
  • Interests:Football, golf, banking and home improvements

  • NFL Team:

Posted 28 October 2013 - 09:39 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 28 October 2013 - 05:16 AM, said:

I gave up on correcting people a long time ago. It's sad people can't even take the time to spell the players name but there's far too many people doing it to care anymore.


I find it sad we seem to care so much about it on a casual internet forum. :trink39:

View PostJetsman05, on 28 October 2013 - 05:16 AM, said:

As for Dee, it's clearly a massive learning curve for the fella. Can't jump to conclusions yet but he's definitely going to need to improve later in the year and over the off-season. Pitiful display.


Normaly I give guys at least a year before calling them a bust. But this guy has not shown much. I am really concerned we used a high pick on him over another skill position. I hope he pulls it together, but I don't think he will. Hopefully I am wrong.
Posted Image
0

#7 User is offline   shrekman1 Icon

  • Free Agent
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 30
  • Joined: 21-December 08

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:05 AM

View PostROBJETS, on 27 October 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

Milliner is a rookie. He deserves another year before classifying him a bust. Wilson is a total bust and needs to be cut. He is a total liability. Anyone that says difference needs to accept the fact that Wilson has constantly dropped in the depth chart every year. He is pretty much only used in the nickle and doesn't even do that well. He is 5th or 6th on the secondary depth chart and cant go any lower. Basically Wilson`s another Lowery if not worse. He has only lasted this long because he is cheap.


And by the way @shrekman1..... Posted Image/>/>/>/> Spelling police here......... the man plays for your team please spell his name right...."Common Man"!

Its Milliner not Millner.


Just having fun with you man.




Sorry about the typo. Funning how I forgot the "I." No I in team. Anyway the subject matter is "Milliner" not my lack of computer skills. lol While he is a rookie, there is no steady improvement week to week. If there was I don't think Rex would be pulling this guy so quickly. I also believe this player is fragile. Not built to hit or tackle.. Hope I'm wrong, but it doesn't look that way
0

#8 User is offline   Jetsfan0099 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 17,091
  • Joined: 30-July 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Jersey

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 28 October 2013 - 11:19 AM

Its too early to call him a bust, and CB is probably the hardest position for a college player to transition to in the NFL. Its not looking good right now, but there is still time. Draft picks should be judged after 3 years.

But its not just Milliner. Cromartie has been awful this season, injured or not hes been terrible. Luckily we can get out of that contract after the season and save $9.5 mil. This is basically a contract season for him and hes playing awful.


Our psas defense has allowed 15 TD and has only 3 INTs. This might be the worst season for a REx Ryan defense against the pass. If I were the Jets, I would try to sign Jarius Byrd this offseason, get a playmaking FS for the team.
Posted Image
0

#9 User is offline   518-JeTS-FaN Icon

  • LB Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,214
  • Joined: 11-April 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Albany N.Y
  • Interests:family, football, life and gaming hit me up on ps3 MTYSON

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 28 October 2013 - 12:58 PM

Hes a bust and cromartie is a bum
0

#10 User is offline   Jetsfan0099 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 17,091
  • Joined: 30-July 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Jersey

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:26 PM

I'm stealing this post from another board.

Quote

Below are the CB's first 4 games their rookie season and season totals

Milliner:
Game 1: 4 receptions, 9 times thrown at, 65 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 2 rec, 7 thrown at, 46 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 3: 6 rec, 12 thrown at, 52 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 4: 4 rec, 5 thrown at, 108 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Total (5 games): 16 receptions, 35 times thrown at, 45.7% completion %, 271 yards allowed, 16.9 yds per completion, 3 TD, 0 INT, 101.0 QB rating against

Patrick Peterson
Game 1: 7 receptions, 9 times thrown at, 110 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 5 rec, 5 thrown at, 66 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 3: 1 rec, 2 thrown at, 6 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT
Game 4: 7 rec, 10 thrown at, 94 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Total: 67 receptions, 113 times thrown at, 59.3% completion %, 869 yards allowed, 13.0 yds per completion, 3 TD, 2 INT, 85.0 QB rating against
Notes: Pretty poor numbers for the entire year, didn't seem to improve too much the 2nd half the season

Kareem Jackson
Game 1: 5 receptions, 11 times thrown at, 61 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 7 rec, 8 thrown at, 100 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 3: 6 rec, 7 thrown at, 100 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 4: 2 rec, 5 thrown at, 17 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 5: 9 rec, 12 thrown at, 148 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Total: 57 receptions, 86 times thrown at, 66.3% completion %, 924 yards allowed, 16.2 yds per completion, 5 TD, 2 INT, 111.8 QB rating against
Notes: I added in his 5th game above. He struggled his first 2 seasons in the NFL, not just his rookie season. Not an elite CB, but certainly a pretty good one right now.

Vontae Davis
Game 1: 4 receptions, 7 times thrown at, 91 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 6 rec, 9 thrown at, 125 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Game 3: 1 rec, 2 thrown at, 17 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 4: 7 rec, 10 thrown at, 88 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Total: 49 receptions, 77 times thrown at, 63.6% completion %, 893 yards allowed, 18.2 yds per completion, 7 TD, 4 INT, 112.1 QB rating against
Notes: I used the first 4 games that he started rather than played, since he played in his teams first 6 games but not a lot of snaps, he started from game 7 on.

Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
Game 1: 5 receptions, 5 times thrown at, 39 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 2 rec, 4 thrown at, 94 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 3: 5 rec, 7 thrown at, 47 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 4: 2 rec, 6 thrown at, 17 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Total: 46 receptions, 79 times thrown at, 58.2% completion %, 585 yards allowed, 12.9 yds per completion, 7 TD, 4 INT, 90.4 QB rating against

Posted Image
0

Page 1 of 1


Fast Reply

  

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users