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NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Dee Millner First Round Bust!!?

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 04:20 PM

So far this year Dee Millner has shown he is not a first round pick. A player who seems to get hurt a lot and is quite fragile . When on the field, is getting beat often! Rex benching him twice. Dont know of any other player who is getting benched as much as much as him. He is not the answer. What are your thoughts?
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:33 PM

bum for a 1st rd pick. he and kyle Wilson don't reflect 1st rd talent.
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:14 PM

It's been eight games and he's a corner back. It'll take some time. Everyone needs to calm down about judging rookies so soon. Some catch on fast and some do not. Give him at least a season before stamping him a bust.
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:33 PM

View Postjet-man, on 27 October 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

bum for a 1st rd pick. he and kyle Wilson don't reflect 1st rd talent.

Milliner is a rookie. He deserves another year before classifying him a bust. Wilson is a total bust and needs to be cut. He is a total liability. Anyone that says difference needs to accept the fact that Wilson has constantly dropped in the depth chart every year. He is pretty much only used in the nickle and doesn't even do that well. He is 5th or 6th on the secondary depth chart and cant go any lower. Basically Wilson`s another Lowery if not worse. He has only lasted this long because he is cheap.


And by the way @shrekman1..... :sterb041:/>/>/>/> Spelling police here......... the man plays for your team please spell his name right...."Common Man"!

Its Milliner not Millner.


Just having fun with you man.
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 05:16 AM

View PostROBJETS, on 27 October 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

Milliner is a rookie. He deserves another year before classifying him a bust. Wilson is a total bust and needs to be cut. He is a total liability. Anyone that says difference needs to accept the fact that Wilson has constantly dropped in the depth chart every year. He is pretty much only used in the nickle and doesn't even do that well. He is 5th or 6th on the secondary depth chart and cant go any lower. Basically Wilson`s another Lowery if not worse. He has only lasted this long because he is cheap.


And by the way @shrekman1..... Posted Image/>/>/>/> Spelling police here......... the man plays for your team please spell his name right...."Common Man"!

Its Milliner not Millner.


Just having fun with you man.


I gave up on correcting people a long time ago. It's sad people can't even take the time to spell the players name but there's far too many people doing it to care anymore.

As for Dee, it's clearly a massive learning curve for the fella. Can't jump to conclusions yet but he's definitely going to need to improve later in the year and over the off-season. Pitiful display.
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 09:39 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 28 October 2013 - 05:16 AM, said:

I gave up on correcting people a long time ago. It's sad people can't even take the time to spell the players name but there's far too many people doing it to care anymore.


I find it sad we seem to care so much about it on a casual internet forum. :trink39:

View PostJetsman05, on 28 October 2013 - 05:16 AM, said:

As for Dee, it's clearly a massive learning curve for the fella. Can't jump to conclusions yet but he's definitely going to need to improve later in the year and over the off-season. Pitiful display.


Normaly I give guys at least a year before calling them a bust. But this guy has not shown much. I am really concerned we used a high pick on him over another skill position. I hope he pulls it together, but I don't think he will. Hopefully I am wrong.
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:05 AM

View PostROBJETS, on 27 October 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

Milliner is a rookie. He deserves another year before classifying him a bust. Wilson is a total bust and needs to be cut. He is a total liability. Anyone that says difference needs to accept the fact that Wilson has constantly dropped in the depth chart every year. He is pretty much only used in the nickle and doesn't even do that well. He is 5th or 6th on the secondary depth chart and cant go any lower. Basically Wilson`s another Lowery if not worse. He has only lasted this long because he is cheap.


And by the way @shrekman1..... Posted Image/>/>/>/> Spelling police here......... the man plays for your team please spell his name right...."Common Man"!

Its Milliner not Millner.


Just having fun with you man.




Sorry about the typo. Funning how I forgot the "I." No I in team. Anyway the subject matter is "Milliner" not my lack of computer skills. lol While he is a rookie, there is no steady improvement week to week. If there was I don't think Rex would be pulling this guy so quickly. I also believe this player is fragile. Not built to hit or tackle.. Hope I'm wrong, but it doesn't look that way
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 11:19 AM

Its too early to call him a bust, and CB is probably the hardest position for a college player to transition to in the NFL. Its not looking good right now, but there is still time. Draft picks should be judged after 3 years.

But its not just Milliner. Cromartie has been awful this season, injured or not hes been terrible. Luckily we can get out of that contract after the season and save $9.5 mil. This is basically a contract season for him and hes playing awful.


Our psas defense has allowed 15 TD and has only 3 INTs. This might be the worst season for a REx Ryan defense against the pass. If I were the Jets, I would try to sign Jarius Byrd this offseason, get a playmaking FS for the team.
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 12:58 PM

Hes a bust and cromartie is a bum
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:26 PM

I'm stealing this post from another board.

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Below are the CB's first 4 games their rookie season and season totals

Milliner:
Game 1: 4 receptions, 9 times thrown at, 65 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 2 rec, 7 thrown at, 46 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 3: 6 rec, 12 thrown at, 52 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 4: 4 rec, 5 thrown at, 108 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Total (5 games): 16 receptions, 35 times thrown at, 45.7% completion %, 271 yards allowed, 16.9 yds per completion, 3 TD, 0 INT, 101.0 QB rating against

Patrick Peterson
Game 1: 7 receptions, 9 times thrown at, 110 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 5 rec, 5 thrown at, 66 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 3: 1 rec, 2 thrown at, 6 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT
Game 4: 7 rec, 10 thrown at, 94 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Total: 67 receptions, 113 times thrown at, 59.3% completion %, 869 yards allowed, 13.0 yds per completion, 3 TD, 2 INT, 85.0 QB rating against
Notes: Pretty poor numbers for the entire year, didn't seem to improve too much the 2nd half the season

Kareem Jackson
Game 1: 5 receptions, 11 times thrown at, 61 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 7 rec, 8 thrown at, 100 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 3: 6 rec, 7 thrown at, 100 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 4: 2 rec, 5 thrown at, 17 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 5: 9 rec, 12 thrown at, 148 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Total: 57 receptions, 86 times thrown at, 66.3% completion %, 924 yards allowed, 16.2 yds per completion, 5 TD, 2 INT, 111.8 QB rating against
Notes: I added in his 5th game above. He struggled his first 2 seasons in the NFL, not just his rookie season. Not an elite CB, but certainly a pretty good one right now.

Vontae Davis
Game 1: 4 receptions, 7 times thrown at, 91 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 6 rec, 9 thrown at, 125 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Game 3: 1 rec, 2 thrown at, 17 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 4: 7 rec, 10 thrown at, 88 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Total: 49 receptions, 77 times thrown at, 63.6% completion %, 893 yards allowed, 18.2 yds per completion, 7 TD, 4 INT, 112.1 QB rating against
Notes: I used the first 4 games that he started rather than played, since he played in his teams first 6 games but not a lot of snaps, he started from game 7 on.

Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
Game 1: 5 receptions, 5 times thrown at, 39 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 2 rec, 4 thrown at, 94 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 3: 5 rec, 7 thrown at, 47 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 4: 2 rec, 6 thrown at, 17 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Total: 46 receptions, 79 times thrown at, 58.2% completion %, 585 yards allowed, 12.9 yds per completion, 7 TD, 4 INT, 90.4 QB rating against

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