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Dee Millner First Round Bust!!?

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 04:20 PM

So far this year Dee Millner has shown he is not a first round pick. A player who seems to get hurt a lot and is quite fragile . When on the field, is getting beat often! Rex benching him twice. Dont know of any other player who is getting benched as much as much as him. He is not the answer. What are your thoughts?
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:33 PM

bum for a 1st rd pick. he and kyle Wilson don't reflect 1st rd talent.
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:14 PM

It's been eight games and he's a corner back. It'll take some time. Everyone needs to calm down about judging rookies so soon. Some catch on fast and some do not. Give him at least a season before stamping him a bust.
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:33 PM

View Postjet-man, on 27 October 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

bum for a 1st rd pick. he and kyle Wilson don't reflect 1st rd talent.

Milliner is a rookie. He deserves another year before classifying him a bust. Wilson is a total bust and needs to be cut. He is a total liability. Anyone that says difference needs to accept the fact that Wilson has constantly dropped in the depth chart every year. He is pretty much only used in the nickle and doesn't even do that well. He is 5th or 6th on the secondary depth chart and cant go any lower. Basically Wilson`s another Lowery if not worse. He has only lasted this long because he is cheap.


And by the way @shrekman1..... :sterb041:/>/>/>/> Spelling police here......... the man plays for your team please spell his name right...."Common Man"!

Its Milliner not Millner.


Just having fun with you man.
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 05:16 AM

View PostROBJETS, on 27 October 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

Milliner is a rookie. He deserves another year before classifying him a bust. Wilson is a total bust and needs to be cut. He is a total liability. Anyone that says difference needs to accept the fact that Wilson has constantly dropped in the depth chart every year. He is pretty much only used in the nickle and doesn't even do that well. He is 5th or 6th on the secondary depth chart and cant go any lower. Basically Wilson`s another Lowery if not worse. He has only lasted this long because he is cheap.


And by the way @shrekman1..... Posted Image/>/>/>/> Spelling police here......... the man plays for your team please spell his name right...."Common Man"!

Its Milliner not Millner.


Just having fun with you man.


I gave up on correcting people a long time ago. It's sad people can't even take the time to spell the players name but there's far too many people doing it to care anymore.

As for Dee, it's clearly a massive learning curve for the fella. Can't jump to conclusions yet but he's definitely going to need to improve later in the year and over the off-season. Pitiful display.
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 09:39 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 28 October 2013 - 05:16 AM, said:

I gave up on correcting people a long time ago. It's sad people can't even take the time to spell the players name but there's far too many people doing it to care anymore.


I find it sad we seem to care so much about it on a casual internet forum. :trink39:

View PostJetsman05, on 28 October 2013 - 05:16 AM, said:

As for Dee, it's clearly a massive learning curve for the fella. Can't jump to conclusions yet but he's definitely going to need to improve later in the year and over the off-season. Pitiful display.


Normaly I give guys at least a year before calling them a bust. But this guy has not shown much. I am really concerned we used a high pick on him over another skill position. I hope he pulls it together, but I don't think he will. Hopefully I am wrong.
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:05 AM

View PostROBJETS, on 27 October 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

Milliner is a rookie. He deserves another year before classifying him a bust. Wilson is a total bust and needs to be cut. He is a total liability. Anyone that says difference needs to accept the fact that Wilson has constantly dropped in the depth chart every year. He is pretty much only used in the nickle and doesn't even do that well. He is 5th or 6th on the secondary depth chart and cant go any lower. Basically Wilson`s another Lowery if not worse. He has only lasted this long because he is cheap.


And by the way @shrekman1..... Posted Image/>/>/>/> Spelling police here......... the man plays for your team please spell his name right...."Common Man"!

Its Milliner not Millner.


Just having fun with you man.




Sorry about the typo. Funning how I forgot the "I." No I in team. Anyway the subject matter is "Milliner" not my lack of computer skills. lol While he is a rookie, there is no steady improvement week to week. If there was I don't think Rex would be pulling this guy so quickly. I also believe this player is fragile. Not built to hit or tackle.. Hope I'm wrong, but it doesn't look that way
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 11:19 AM

Its too early to call him a bust, and CB is probably the hardest position for a college player to transition to in the NFL. Its not looking good right now, but there is still time. Draft picks should be judged after 3 years.

But its not just Milliner. Cromartie has been awful this season, injured or not hes been terrible. Luckily we can get out of that contract after the season and save $9.5 mil. This is basically a contract season for him and hes playing awful.


Our psas defense has allowed 15 TD and has only 3 INTs. This might be the worst season for a REx Ryan defense against the pass. If I were the Jets, I would try to sign Jarius Byrd this offseason, get a playmaking FS for the team.
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 12:58 PM

Hes a bust and cromartie is a bum
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:26 PM

I'm stealing this post from another board.

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Below are the CB's first 4 games their rookie season and season totals

Milliner:
Game 1: 4 receptions, 9 times thrown at, 65 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 2 rec, 7 thrown at, 46 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 3: 6 rec, 12 thrown at, 52 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 4: 4 rec, 5 thrown at, 108 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Total (5 games): 16 receptions, 35 times thrown at, 45.7% completion %, 271 yards allowed, 16.9 yds per completion, 3 TD, 0 INT, 101.0 QB rating against

Patrick Peterson
Game 1: 7 receptions, 9 times thrown at, 110 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 5 rec, 5 thrown at, 66 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 3: 1 rec, 2 thrown at, 6 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT
Game 4: 7 rec, 10 thrown at, 94 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Total: 67 receptions, 113 times thrown at, 59.3% completion %, 869 yards allowed, 13.0 yds per completion, 3 TD, 2 INT, 85.0 QB rating against
Notes: Pretty poor numbers for the entire year, didn't seem to improve too much the 2nd half the season

Kareem Jackson
Game 1: 5 receptions, 11 times thrown at, 61 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 7 rec, 8 thrown at, 100 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 3: 6 rec, 7 thrown at, 100 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 4: 2 rec, 5 thrown at, 17 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 5: 9 rec, 12 thrown at, 148 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Total: 57 receptions, 86 times thrown at, 66.3% completion %, 924 yards allowed, 16.2 yds per completion, 5 TD, 2 INT, 111.8 QB rating against
Notes: I added in his 5th game above. He struggled his first 2 seasons in the NFL, not just his rookie season. Not an elite CB, but certainly a pretty good one right now.

Vontae Davis
Game 1: 4 receptions, 7 times thrown at, 91 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 6 rec, 9 thrown at, 125 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Game 3: 1 rec, 2 thrown at, 17 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 4: 7 rec, 10 thrown at, 88 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Total: 49 receptions, 77 times thrown at, 63.6% completion %, 893 yards allowed, 18.2 yds per completion, 7 TD, 4 INT, 112.1 QB rating against
Notes: I used the first 4 games that he started rather than played, since he played in his teams first 6 games but not a lot of snaps, he started from game 7 on.

Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
Game 1: 5 receptions, 5 times thrown at, 39 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT
Game 2: 2 rec, 4 thrown at, 94 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 3: 5 rec, 7 thrown at, 47 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Game 4: 2 rec, 6 thrown at, 17 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Total: 46 receptions, 79 times thrown at, 58.2% completion %, 585 yards allowed, 12.9 yds per completion, 7 TD, 4 INT, 90.4 QB rating against

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