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S-Dubb Icon : (29 January 2016 - 10:22 AM) long time no chat, Ya boy has returned from the depths. Good to see everyone alive and well. Another season down the drain... what else is new? Fitz coming back next yr means we wont be going to the superbowl. We seriously need to land a QB. I hope Petty is the future and Im still quietly waiting for Geno to show up. IF they retain him it would speak volumes
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 January 2016 - 11:23 AM) I'm done with Geno. Never really expected much from him from the beginning. So I'm also looking for Petty to be the future.
vjdbbq Icon : (29 January 2016 - 04:33 PM) GENO SUCKS MONKEY DICK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:16 PM) S-Dubb??.Who's that guy?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:17 PM) FIRE S-DUBB
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Dubb and Amen? Did I take a wrong turn and land back in 2007?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Haha good to see both of you
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:28 PM) I don't care if Cro comes back, I think Marcus Williams can start opposite Revis. Hes a ball hawk and has performed well everytime hes called on.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) I want Fitz back as starter, he lacks arm talent but he is scrappy
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) The team loves him as a leader and he is a good bridge QB as we groom a QB of the future.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He also has top notch pocket awareness.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He allows our playmakers to make plays. After years of terrible QB play, I'll take 31 TD 15 INTs almost 4,000 yards
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 February 2016 - 12:41 AM) I can't stop thinking about the off season...... what the hell are we gonna do!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Maccagnan is going to have to show his worth
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) They can't have Wilkerson on that franchise tag, they have to sign him long term with a small cap hit or trade him. Otherwise we are in trouble with other FAs.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) We need Harrison back, you can't run a effective 3-4 without a stud NT.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:01 AM) I hope we get Harrison back on a 4 yr contract.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:55 PM) I really think we are going to have to tag and trade Wilkerson
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) If we keep wilk we lose Harrison or Fitzpatrick maybe both
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) And ivory
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:23 PM) We can't keep Wilkerson, Richardson, and Williams. A move has to be made
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) If the Jets want to go cheaper, they can try to trade Wilkerson and have Richardson/Williams for cheap
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Then they can re-sign Harrison, FItzpatrick, Ivory, and maybe Powell.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Kaepernick apparently wants out of SF and wants to join the Jets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Guess he sees the Jets as a team with a great WR tandem and a quality OC who builds a offense around the players
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) No thanks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) Unless he's dirt cheap
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:30 AM) The jets would be fools to take on that contract
Jetsfan115 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 02:09 PM) keep powell, snakcs, wilkerson, and fitz. let ivory walk, trade richardson, cut cromartie, restructure brick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 04:18 PM) Marshall said no to Kaepnerick, he wants FItzpatrick as his QB
vjdbbq Icon : (04 February 2016 - 12:07 PM) Where's Rob ? I need some ass shots !!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:16 PM) its crazy how dead this site is
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:16 PM) its super bowl Sunday!!
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:47 PM) Everybody is at Rob's house ; checking out the asses !!!!!
Smedsthejet Icon : (07 February 2016 - 05:17 PM) Hope Cotchery gets a ring tonight
santana Icon : (07 February 2016 - 07:04 PM) Yeah I would rather see a panther win
santana Icon : (07 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Zzzz
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (07 February 2016 - 09:03 PM) I want to see Manning go out on top
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:03 PM) Jerricho got screwed on the call in the first quarter but he dropped a few later on .
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:04 PM) Screw Manning and his chicken parm .
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:29 PM) We need a pass rushing LB!! Look at Denver.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:30 PM) Nothing against manning but he wasn't good at all this year and gives me hope that we can reach a super bowl with Fitzpatrick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (08 February 2016 - 06:42 AM) Denver has two future HOF edge rushers with Miller and Ware.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (08 February 2016 - 08:01 PM) NO to kapergimmick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:37 AM) Yes to Kaepernick, he'd be great here!
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:03 AM

So we got some young talent but still have holes. So how can we fill them?
well 1st off we have 23 million dead money this year, mostly from revis (13 million) all that comes off the books.
Then we save naother 8.3million by cutting or trading sanchez now were at 31 million
we could save 8.2 million from cutting holmes. but i think he takes a paycut and we save another 4 million so were up to 35 million
So the money is there. now what do we need?

QB - sign a decent veteran behind geno
options are weak. but maybe shaun hill?

WR - injuries have hurt us. but we still need 1 more. we'll keep hill, holmes, kerly for sure. I think we should keep nelson and salas. and sign 1 free agent. there are alot of good options
anquan bolden?
Jeremy Maclin
kenny britt?
hakeem nicks
emmanual sanders
devon hester (as a return man too)
Danario Alexander

I think nicks britt, and maclin are the 3 best options age and talentwise. nicks is a big body who fights for the ball. so is britt but he has off field issues. maclin is probably the best overall but has injury history. any 3 when paired with holmes, kerly, and hill will make a good WR group

TE - winslow and cumberland are both FAs. rueland looked ok but i don't want him as a starter. i think we bring back cumberland and let winslow walk. we could bring back keller or go to the draft. also olsen is another good option but overall weak TE FA group

RB - we should sign Run DMC. he is the big play guy we need. oakland will let him walk and he won't be expensive becuase he can't stay healthy. which for us is ok with ivory and powell on the roster.

O-line - we need a better RT and more depth and possibly a LG an grab depth in FA and a RT in the draft

CB - we should draft another CB to go with wilson, cro, an milner. but not too high. maybe 4th round

S - need another one to go with allen. mikell and draft would be nice

OLB - draft one to replace pace as a starter

ok so resigns
pace colon howard cumberland hillard

let walk
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:40 AM

I don't think we need a better RT, I think Austin Howard is a very solid starter. Willie Colon is older and is on a 1 year deal, I think RG is our need on the OL.

We need to get some playmakers on offense. We need to add some WRs and maybe a TE and a RB. On defense we need a safety and OLB.


I like Jeremy Maclin, hes a guy who knows this system having played for Marty in Philly. Hes young and a quality WR. Coming off of an injury, probably won't cost too much. Still only 25.
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:36 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 05 November 2013 - 07:40 AM, said:

I don't think we need a better RT, I think Austin Howard is a very solid starter. Willie Colon is older and is on a 1 year deal, I think RG is our need on the OL.

We need to get some playmakers on offense. We need to add some WRs and maybe a TE and a RB. On defense we need a safety and OLB.


I like Jeremy Maclin, hes a guy who knows this system having played for Marty in Philly. Hes young and a quality WR. Coming off of an injury, probably won't cost too much. Still only 25.


i'm not sold on howard. and if we target a RT in the 1st we could trade down and grab one late and an extra pick. colon is ok for 1 more year but we do need guards as well which can be grabbed later on. using a 1st on a guard isn't a great idea IMO

playmakers on offense could be DMC, get holmes back healthy, hill and that could be good enough

maclin is the best FA WR i agree but injuries concern me. i'd gladly take him though. or nicks or britt. any of them would be a great addition
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:44 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 05 November 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

i'm not sold on howard. and if we target a RT in the 1st we could trade down and grab one late and an extra pick. colon is ok for 1 more year but we do need guards as well which can be grabbed later on. using a 1st on a guard isn't a great idea IMO

playmakers on offense could be DMC, get holmes back healthy, hill and that could be good enough

maclin is the best FA WR i agree but injuries concern me. i'd gladly take him though. or nicks or britt. any of them would be a great addition


Anyone is better than Stephen Hill at this point.
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:13 PM

When is the last time Mccfadden has made a big play? There will be be much better options than him coming out of the draft and/or free agency. We need a massive upgrade at both WR spots, TE, RG, OLB. I have been nothing less than impressed by our safety play but have to add some depth there as well.
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:50 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 05 November 2013 - 08:44 AM, said:

Anyone is better than Stephen Hill at this point.


how many times do you see him open and geno doesn't find him or misses him. hill gets open consistently. thats all you can ask for
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:53 PM

View PostRetireChrebet, on 05 November 2013 - 09:13 AM, said:

When is the last time Mccfadden has made a big play? There will be be much better options than him coming out of the draft and/or free agency. We need a massive upgrade at both WR spots, TE, RG, OLB. I have been nothing less than impressed by our safety play but have to add some depth there as well.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 10:47 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 05 November 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

how many times do you see him open and geno doesn't find him or misses him. hill gets open consistently. thats all you can ask for


Couldn't tell you. He's too busy watching Greg Salas and David Nelson from the sideline.
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 11:30 AM

View Postsexyrexy, on 06 November 2013 - 07:47 AM, said:

Couldn't tell you. He's too busy watching Greg Salas and David Nelson from the sideline.


and here i thought you actually watched the games. you should be in the shoutbox. i can't tell you how many times this season someone (and not myself) said "hill was wide open and geno missed him, WTF"
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 12:28 PM

I wouldn't sign DMC if I were GM unless he were to be signed to a super cheap contract. Someone will pay him more than he's worth because of upside, but he is damaged goods. Whats the point of having a stud running back if he's sitting on the sidelines for half the season? The guy can't stay healthy. No thanks.

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 12:35 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 06 November 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

and here i thought you actually watched the games. you should be in the shoutbox. i can't tell you how many times this season someone (and not myself) said "hill was wide open and geno missed him, WTF"


I attend the games, so maybe I miss something that's shown on replays at home from time to time... so my apologies for not being on the expert level of analysis found in the shoutbox.

The fact remains that a guy they signed off the street in David Nelson is playing more snaps than Stephen Hill. It's pathetic. He's a one-dimensional developmental receiver who doesn't appear to be developing. He's trending towards being off the team by the end of next season.
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 01:56 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 06 November 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

I attend the games, so maybe I miss something that's shown on replays at home from time to time... so my apologies for not being on the expert level of analysis found in the shoutbox.

The fact remains that a guy they signed off the street in David Nelson is playing more snaps than Stephen Hill. It's pathetic. He's a one-dimensional developmental receiver who doesn't appear to be developing. He's trending towards being off the team by the end of next season.


you can't blame him for the QB not getting to him. and yes at games you don't get to see as much as you would watching on TV. hill should have at least 6 more TDs and twice the yards if geno had better vision
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 05:27 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 06 November 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

you can't blame him for the QB not getting to him. and yes at games you don't get to see as much as you would watching on TV. hill should have at least 6 more TDs and twice the yards if geno had better vision


So he should be top 5 in the league in TDs? OK.
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 06:37 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 06 November 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

So he should be top 5 in the league in TDs? OK.


yup easily. almost every week geno mises hill wide open for a TD. its sad
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 05:37 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 05 November 2013 - 11:03 AM, said:

So we got some young talent but still have holes. So how can we fill them?
well 1st off we have 23 million dead money this year, mostly from revis (13 million) all that comes off the books.
Then we save naother 8.3million by cutting or trading sanchez now were at 31 million
we could save 8.2 million from cutting holmes. but i think he takes a paycut and we save another 4 million so were up to 35 million
So the money is there. now what do we need?

QB - sign a decent veteran behind geno
options are weak. but maybe shaun hill?

WR - injuries have hurt us. but we still need 1 more. we'll keep hill, holmes, kerly for sure. I think we should keep nelson and salas. and sign 1 free agent. there are alot of good options
anquan bolden?
Jeremy Maclin
kenny britt?
hakeem nicks
emmanual sanders
devon hester (as a return man too)
Danario Alexander

I think nicks britt, and maclin are the 3 best options age and talentwise. nicks is a big body who fights for the ball. so is britt but he has off field issues. maclin is probably the best overall but has injury history. any 3 when paired with holmes, kerly, and hill will make a good WR group

TE - winslow and cumberland are both FAs. rueland looked ok but i don't want him as a starter. i think we bring back cumberland and let winslow walk. we could bring back keller or go to the draft. also olsen is another good option but overall weak TE FA group

RB - we should sign Run DMC. he is the big play guy we need. oakland will let him walk and he won't be expensive becuase he can't stay healthy. which for us is ok with ivory and powell on the roster.

O-line - we need a better RT and more depth and possibly a LG an grab depth in FA and a RT in the draft

CB - we should draft another CB to go with wilson, cro, an milner. but not too high. maybe 4th round

S - need another one to go with allen. mikell and draft would be nice

OLB - draft one to replace pace as a starter

ok so resigns
pace colon howard cumberland hillard

let walk
winslow, berry


Don't understand where you feel we need a RB. I think we are fine with our group as they are. And taking a WR in free agency doesn't make sense either. How many times do we see, players come from other teams and not live up to expectations.

I would use the draft to take impact players wherever they may be other than the defensive line. I believe Barnes can cover for Pace if we have to.

The one position no one seems to mention and that I believe is one of our weakest points is left tackle. Brick has been terrible for us. This year he has been pushed around and in 2010 graded out to be one of the worst LT's in the league. He is living on his reputation. And at his best he was never a great run blocker. I would spend whatever is necessary on the free agent market if a solid LT was available.

I think Winters and Colon, Mangold and Howard do a fine job. Colon needs to cut down the penalties and Winters is a kid. Ducasse will never pan out so getting rid of him makes sense.

I would definitely get rid of Sanchez and Holmes and require Harris to take a pay cut. With that money we could strengthen our secondary and see if any truly talented players become available on the free agent market. Otherwise, the draft is our best option and we should save the money for the following year.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 06:03 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 06 November 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

yup easily. almost every week geno mises hill wide open for a TD. its sad


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:32 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 06 November 2013 - 05:37 PM, said:

yup easily. almost every week geno mises hill wide open for a TD. its sad

He wouldn't catch it anyway. :29: :29:
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:31 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 06 November 2013 - 06:37 PM, said:

yup easily. almost every week geno mises hill wide open for a TD. its sad


I know you like to sniff glue, but at what point did you start eating it too?
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:39 PM

Are we being reasonable or are we just shooting shit? Anyway, I'd do this: cut Sanchez, Holmes & Harris. That puts us at about $50M below the cap. That's a lot of moola.

Sign:
Maclin (should be cheap since he needs to prove he can survive a season)
Brandon Pettigrew (Geno needs a safety blanket who can be on the field all 3 downs)
Resign Cumberland
Resign Howard
Resign Colon
If by some grace of god the Saints don't franchise Jimmy Graham, you write him a blank check and that's that.

On defense:
Sign Byrd or Tj Ward
Sign Brian Cushing. If Sean Lee is available, see Graham, Jimmy
Don't assume Barnes is going to pop right back, he's older and had one good season. Bring back Pace just in case.
Make a run at Okrapo.
If the Bucs clean house, you drop Cromartie and his $9M salary and you give Revis $12M for 5 years.


Draft:
WR/Pass Rusher
Pass Rusher/WR/Safety
OL/WR/CB/TE (since we got 2 picks.
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Posted 18 November 2013 - 06:12 AM

If I were the Jets I would release Cromartie, save the $9.5 mil in cap space. He has been awful this season, bottom 5 CB in the league. Noway am I taking up $14 mil in cap space for him. He'll be 30 next season as well, hes losing his speed.


I would go out and sign Jarius Byrd, get a safety who can make plays and has coverage ability.

I would also sign Jeremy Maclin, experienced in this system and is young coming off a injury. ACL tears are not a huge deal anymore. I would also draft a WR very early. I would draft a RB and a OG and TE.

We also need to get a QB, I am not convinced with Geno Smith at all. He has been getting worse, not better.
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