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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:43 PM

Green Day: Just say no to Nnamdi

By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com

So cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha is a free agent and a lot of folks on Twitter believe the New York Jets should pursue him. Hello? This isn't 2011.

He's done.

The Mike Tannenbaum-led Jets breathlessly courted Asomugha in 2011 during the lockout-shortened free-agency period before training camp, offering him $10 million per year (a shade below Darrelle Revis) on a multi-year contract. Luckily for the Jets, he decided to take his talents to South Philly, signing with the Eagles, who quickly realized his skills had eroded.

The San Francisco 49ers took a one-year flyer on Asomugha; he played in only three games and was released earlier this week. He's 32 years old and hasn't played well since 2010. Once regarded as the best corner in the NFL, Asomugha was rated 103rd at his position last season by ProFootballFocus. He allowed a 67 percent completion rate and five touchdown passes, per PFF.

He makes no sense for the Jets. He'd be what Bill Parcells used to call a "progress stopper." You bring in a player like Asomugha, and suddenly he's stealing time from a young player. They have a talented but inconsistent rookie in Dee Milliner, in whom they invested a guaranteed $12.7 million, and he needs to play. He displayed signs of progress last Sunday against the New Orleans Saints, perhaps a turning point. Kyle Wilson is solid as the slot corner. Barring injury, Asomugha would be the fourth corner on the Jets. If you haven't noticed, they don't use a lot of four-corner packages anymore.

I'd be surprised if general manager John Idzik makes a play for Asomugha, a once-great player who is unemployed for a reason.
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Posted 08 November 2013 - 04:04 PM

View Postbleedsgreen, on 08 November 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

Green Day: Just say no to Nnamdi

By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com

So cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha is a free agent and a lot of folks on Twitter believe the New York Jets should pursue him. Hello? This isn't 2011.

He's done.

The Mike Tannenbaum-led Jets breathlessly courted Asomugha in 2011 during the lockout-shortened free-agency period before training camp, offering him $10 million per year (a shade below Darrelle Revis) on a multi-year contract. Luckily for the Jets, he decided to take his talents to South Philly, signing with the Eagles, who quickly realized his skills had eroded.

The San Francisco 49ers took a one-year flyer on Asomugha; he played in only three games and was released earlier this week. He's 32 years old and hasn't played well since 2010. Once regarded as the best corner in the NFL, Asomugha was rated 103rd at his position last season by ProFootballFocus. He allowed a 67 percent completion rate and five touchdown passes, per PFF.

He makes no sense for the Jets. He'd be what Bill Parcells used to call a "progress stopper." You bring in a player like Asomugha, and suddenly he's stealing time from a young player. They have a talented but inconsistent rookie in Dee Milliner, in whom they invested a guaranteed $12.7 million, and he needs to play. He displayed signs of progress last Sunday against the New Orleans Saints, perhaps a turning point. Kyle Wilson is solid as the slot corner. Barring injury, Asomugha would be the fourth corner on the Jets. If you haven't noticed, they don't use a lot of four-corner packages anymore.

I'd be surprised if general manager John Idzik makes a play for Asomugha, a once-great player who is unemployed for a reason.

I dont know how bad he is now but I doubt that he can be worse than Wilson. Wilson is far from solid. As Ive said many times Wilson has continually dropped on the depth chart . If he was so solid then why every year do we get beat in the middle? If he was so solid then why is he not starting opposite of Cro? Wilson is one of the main reasons the Jets aren't good against the pass every year. Wilson sucks period and he has played less and less because of it.
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Posted 08 November 2013 - 07:07 PM

I'd rather go with what we have now, rather than bring in overpaid over rated vets. This isn't a superbowl team, lets build our younger guys, and see what holes we actually have. No to Nnamdi
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Posted 08 November 2013 - 07:15 PM

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I dont know how bad he is now but I doubt that he can be worse than Wilson. Wilson is far from solid. As Ive said many times Wilson has continually dropped on the depth chart . If he was so solid then why every year do we get beat in the middle? If he was so solid then why is he not starting opposite of Cro? Wilson is one of the main reasons the Jets aren't good against the pass every year. Wilson sucks period and he has played less and less because of it.


Wilson is actually rated as the top nickel CB in the league this year. Cromartie is our biggest problem in the secondary this season.
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:01 AM

Honestly, I havent noticed wilsons name being called in weeks, and for a corner, thats a good thing. Wilson will never be a true number 1 corner, but rex has him in position to be successful. I have no complaints about wilson. The guy is doing his job and doing it fairly well.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:30 PM

I think Wilson has been great in the slot recently.

Cro needs to step his game up

but other than that I have zero issues with the defense
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Posted 14 November 2013 - 08:31 AM

Cro had a really nice pick vs the saints
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Posted 14 November 2013 - 11:43 AM

yeah I don't hate on him, I like him a lot.

but while his play has steadily been improving over the season, it's the only link I can see that might be weak.

it's more a testament to how good our defense is than anything else
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Posted 14 November 2013 - 02:29 PM

I don't see where the knock on Wilson is coming from this season. He's played FAR better than he has in the past. Cro is playing poorly because he's still hurt and obviously not 100%. Are the people saying that Wilson & Cro aren't playing well actually suggesting giving Nnamdi a look? God I hope not. He was a product of the system he was in and he played for Oakland of all places so yes, he was going to stand out there. As soon as he left Oakland, he got exposed in Philly and ultimately went with a zero guarantee contract just to land a spot in SanFran.
If he would come in for minimum salary, then I'd give him a look but anything above the vet minimum is a waste as we need to continue to groom the young talent we've got. Nnamdi couldn't tie Cro's shoes even with Cro playing hurt. Wilson would shit all over him at this point.
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