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Posted 24 November 2013 - 03:43 PM

agreed about your assessment about the team our inconsistency has been a trade mark for 45 yrs. simms to play in just an opinion thats all.
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Posted 24 November 2013 - 04:39 PM

1 TD 10 INT in the past 6 games. How is someone not benched for that?
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 01:40 AM

He is a Rookie The NFL is a Different Game than College Look at Manuel in Buffalo not doing so great either and now the NFL has caught up to RGlll in year 2 and Luck is 8-5 but we have a Rookie QB who has Struggled to say the least and 5 rookies total starting, and we have already reached the win total of last year with Sanchez, Holmes, Revis,and all the other issues, so I say 9-7, 8-8, 7-9, is not great but its better then last year with a Rookie Starting who may get better and Better, with all the other Rookies and 2nd and 3rd year players we have.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 11:31 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 24 November 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

1 TD 10 INT in the past 6 games. How is someone not benched for that?


when your only other option is matt simms, he'd have to throw 1 TD and 50 ints before getting benched
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 01:07 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 09 December 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

when your only other option is matt simms, he'd have to throw 1 TD and 50 ints before getting benched


And what is Matt Simms again? I think hes a unknown, who says he would do worse than that? Geno is on a 2 TD 12 INT run now. 9 TD 20 INT for the season, hes clearly not our future.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 02:56 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 09 December 2013 - 10:07 AM, said:

And what is Matt Simms again? I think hes a unknown, who says he would do worse than that? Geno is on a 2 TD 12 INT run now. 9 TD 20 INT for the season, hes clearly not our future.


Simms is lucky to be on the team. He isn't an NFL QB. Geno might be doing bad, but simms won't be any better. at least geno is a rookie with potential. I think he issue is his decision making which can be fixed, so thats good. He just needs time. He could be the future he could not. Simms has 0% chance to be our future. With that said his TD was lucky. i am 95% sure he was aiming for holmes and kerly made a great play on it.

Also our WRs suck right now as does the o-line, its not all on geno
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 03:04 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 09 December 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Also our WRs suck right now as does the o-line, its not all on geno


I agree with this statement. This is not all on Geno. However he has played poorly the past few weeks even by rookie standards. His supporting cast not only is a revolving door but also just plain bad. What makes me skeptical of him at this point is the way way he misses wide open throws, his hesitation and his lack of intensity. Time will tell.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:35 PM

We need a real wide receiver. We haven't had one since Braylon Edwards the 1st time in my opinion. Everyone was in love with Holmes with his clutch plays but he was never a true number 1. Stephen Hill has not worked out he still could develop but will probably never be better then a #3. Jeremy Kelley is Jericho crotchety 2.0 great gutty slot player but never a true #1. Drafting a great wide receiver next year who could develop with Gino might really help him out.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:49 PM

View Postbleedsgreen, on 09 December 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

We need a real wide receiver. We haven't had one since Braylon Edwards the 1st time in my opinion. Everyone was in love with Holmes with his clutch plays but he was never a true number 1. Stephen Hill has not worked out he still could develop but will probably never be better then a #3. Jeremy Kelley is Jericho crotchety 2.0 great gutty slot player but never a true #1. Drafting a great wide receiver next year who could develop with Gino might really help him out.


I think we can be alright w/o the draft. we don't have 2-3 years for one to develop and a lot of good FA WRs are out there. we could grab a guy like maclin or nicks and pair them with holmes (assuming he takes a paycut) plus kerly and hill in the slot and nelson/salas in the 5th and 6 spots.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:53 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 09 December 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

I think we can be alright w/o the draft. we don't have 2-3 years for one to develop and a lot of good FA WRs are out there. we could grab a guy like maclin or nicks and pair them with holmes (assuming he takes a paycut) plus kerly and hill in the slot and nelson/salas in the 5th and 6 spots.

We should just cut Hill. He is a bust.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 07:04 PM

Hill still gets another year maybe 2 to develop. He was a project when he was drafted and most WR don't break out till year 3. He is big and fast he may still get there
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 07:35 PM

View Postbleedsgreen, on 09 December 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

Hill still gets another year maybe 2 to develop. He was a project when he was drafted and most WR don't break out till year 3. He is big and fast he may still get there

I was just busting 115s chops. He is a big Hill supporter
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 10:17 PM

I think hill has been a disappointment. I remember being at his first game against the bills when he scored 2 TDs. I thought he was the second coming of jerry rice then reality set in.
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 02:55 PM

What we saw from Geno against Oakland was much better, although it was ridiculous that the commentators were praising him for having one of his best games in the NFL. Geno did look more confident in the pocket even when there was pressure, used his legs well and his accuracy was better.

Yet the interception he threw (and the play before when he was almost picked of) were awful, while the offense seemed to have been scaled down. There certainly weren't as many deep throws called than has been the case throughout the year.

I think he certainly deserves to start the next three games and that giving significant playing time to Simms at this point would be counter-productive. Prior to the Raiders game there may have been a case for that. But now Geno's had his first solid game in a few weeks, let him play out the season and hopefully build some more confidence.
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:33 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 11 December 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

What we saw from Geno against Oakland was much better, although it was ridiculous that the commentators were praising him for having one of his best games in the NFL. Geno did look more confident in the pocket even when there was pressure, used his legs well and his accuracy was better.

Yet the interception he threw (and the play before when he was almost picked of) were awful, while the offense seemed to have been scaled down. There certainly weren't as many deep throws called than has been the case throughout the year.

I think he certainly deserves to start the next three games and that giving significant playing time to Simms at this point would be counter-productive. Prior to the Raiders game there may have been a case for that. But now Geno's had his first solid game in a few weeks, let him play out the season and hopefully build some more confidence.


IMO from what i seen, is geno is best throwing the ball downfield. in the 15+ yard range. he has zip and throws a nice deep ball. but in the short game (the 5-10 yard throws) he struggles where accuracy is so important in traffic. his pick against oak was a little behind a WR on 3rd down that if thrown in the right spot would have been a 1st down. Thats the kind of throws peyton manning never misses. If geno wants to succeed he needs to make those throws period. I think that marty need to roll him out more and give him space to see the field and let him air it out. geno wont be succesfull running a timing offense. he needs to be in a an attack down the field offense
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:57 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 11 December 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

IMO from what i seen, is geno is best throwing the ball downfield. in the 15+ yard range. he has zip and throws a nice deep ball. but in the short game (the 5-10 yard throws) he struggles where accuracy is so important in traffic. his pick against oak was a little behind a WR on 3rd down that if thrown in the right spot would have been a 1st down. Thats the kind of throws peyton manning never misses. If geno wants to succeed he needs to make those throws period. I think that marty need to roll him out more and give him space to see the field and let him air it out. geno wont be succesfull running a timing offense. he needs to be in a an attack down the field offense

He also looked best in the 2 minute offense. That may be key against the Panthers great D
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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:08 AM

Geno lacks a great touch and zip on his throws . he should go work out with drew breeze during the off season . please don't go to jet west . other wise the best Geno can do is be a lesser Eli . if there is a common fact about the Jets they can't pick a winner at QB .and neither can any jet fans around here.
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Posted 13 December 2013 - 02:00 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 09 December 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

I think we can be alright w/o the draft. we don't have 2-3 years for one to develop and a lot of good FA WRs are out there. we could grab a guy like maclin or nicks and pair them with holmes (assuming he takes a paycut) plus kerly and hill in the slot and nelson/salas in the 5th and 6 spots.

Don't agree. I do like buying a WR in free agency but still believe we need to draft a stud if possible. Think we should go QB in round 1 if Manziel is available (fat chance). Would even trade up to get him and I never like trading up. Otherwise I like this kid Bortles and Garrapola (East Illinois) but he may come much cheaper in later rounds.

I especially like Mike Evans from A&M and if he is available when we draft we should grab him (again, this assumes Manziel is off the board).

The simple fact is that I have no confidence in Smith. Not saying he can't get much better but I am saying that gambling on him to be the guy and if not, wasting another 3 years after the 4 year waste with Sanchez just doesn't make sense.

If Idzik is true to his word, the competition will bring the best out in both QB's.
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Posted 13 December 2013 - 04:03 PM

View Postchocomag, on 13 December 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

Don't agree. I do like buying a WR in free agency but still believe we need to draft a stud if possible. Think we should go QB in round 1 if Manziel is available (fat chance). Would even trade up to get him and I never like trading up. Otherwise I like this kid Bortles and Garrapola (East Illinois) but he may come much cheaper in later rounds.

I especially like Mike Evans from A&M and if he is available when we draft we should grab him (again, this assumes Manziel is off the board).

The simple fact is that I have no confidence in Smith. Not saying he can't get much better but I am saying that gambling on him to be the guy and if not, wasting another 3 years after the 4 year waste with Sanchez just doesn't make sense.

If Idzik is true to his word, the competition will bring the best out in both QB's.


I'm not against drafting a QB high at all. But WR isn't as big of a need right now. Especially with the FA market saturated this year. Guys like nicks and maclin are number 1st and young (25,26) and can instantly make a difference. Add in holmes kerly hill nelson etc. We need a TE (cumberland is average and winslow is average , old, and injured all teh time. O-line (RG, RT, LG) RB (ivory and powell aren't game breakers) if we can get a LG, RT, RB in rounds 2-3 (we have 2 3rds) a TE in the 4th, QB in the 1st, and some o-line i'd be happy.
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Posted 13 December 2013 - 08:29 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 13 December 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

I'm not against drafting a QB high at all. But WR isn't as big of a need right now. Especially with the FA market saturated this year. Guys like nicks and maclin are number 1st and young (25,26) and can instantly make a difference. Add in holmes kerly hill nelson etc. We need a TE (cumberland is average and winslow is average , old, and injured all teh time. O-line (RG, RT, LG) RB (ivory and powell aren't game breakers) if we can get a LG, RT, RB in rounds 2-3 (we have 2 3rds) a TE in the 4th, QB in the 1st, and some o-line i'd be happy.


The Jets need a game-breaker at WR. There are no game-breakers in free agency this year.

Holmes won't be on the team next year. Kerley is a #3. Hill is a worthless bust. Nelson is a league average #3 or #4 at best.

HOW is WR not a big need?
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