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ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) 1 week till we are 1-0
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) we need to annihilate the GAYders
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:28 PM) We claimed McFadden from the Browns. Knows the system should be able to contribute right away
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:29 PM) Watching the Browns game now. Playing all three CB spots. Looks OK. A little grabby although he has not been called for it
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:30 PM) Might be a little aggressive and get burnt over top
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:26 PM) FIRE IDZIK
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Posted 24 November 2013 - 03:43 PM

agreed about your assessment about the team our inconsistency has been a trade mark for 45 yrs. simms to play in just an opinion thats all.
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Posted 24 November 2013 - 04:39 PM

1 TD 10 INT in the past 6 games. How is someone not benched for that?
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 01:40 AM

He is a Rookie The NFL is a Different Game than College Look at Manuel in Buffalo not doing so great either and now the NFL has caught up to RGlll in year 2 and Luck is 8-5 but we have a Rookie QB who has Struggled to say the least and 5 rookies total starting, and we have already reached the win total of last year with Sanchez, Holmes, Revis,and all the other issues, so I say 9-7, 8-8, 7-9, is not great but its better then last year with a Rookie Starting who may get better and Better, with all the other Rookies and 2nd and 3rd year players we have.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 11:31 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 24 November 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

1 TD 10 INT in the past 6 games. How is someone not benched for that?


when your only other option is matt simms, he'd have to throw 1 TD and 50 ints before getting benched
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 01:07 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 09 December 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

when your only other option is matt simms, he'd have to throw 1 TD and 50 ints before getting benched


And what is Matt Simms again? I think hes a unknown, who says he would do worse than that? Geno is on a 2 TD 12 INT run now. 9 TD 20 INT for the season, hes clearly not our future.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 02:56 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 09 December 2013 - 10:07 AM, said:

And what is Matt Simms again? I think hes a unknown, who says he would do worse than that? Geno is on a 2 TD 12 INT run now. 9 TD 20 INT for the season, hes clearly not our future.


Simms is lucky to be on the team. He isn't an NFL QB. Geno might be doing bad, but simms won't be any better. at least geno is a rookie with potential. I think he issue is his decision making which can be fixed, so thats good. He just needs time. He could be the future he could not. Simms has 0% chance to be our future. With that said his TD was lucky. i am 95% sure he was aiming for holmes and kerly made a great play on it.

Also our WRs suck right now as does the o-line, its not all on geno
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 03:04 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 09 December 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Also our WRs suck right now as does the o-line, its not all on geno


I agree with this statement. This is not all on Geno. However he has played poorly the past few weeks even by rookie standards. His supporting cast not only is a revolving door but also just plain bad. What makes me skeptical of him at this point is the way way he misses wide open throws, his hesitation and his lack of intensity. Time will tell.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:35 PM

We need a real wide receiver. We haven't had one since Braylon Edwards the 1st time in my opinion. Everyone was in love with Holmes with his clutch plays but he was never a true number 1. Stephen Hill has not worked out he still could develop but will probably never be better then a #3. Jeremy Kelley is Jericho crotchety 2.0 great gutty slot player but never a true #1. Drafting a great wide receiver next year who could develop with Gino might really help him out.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:49 PM

View Postbleedsgreen, on 09 December 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

We need a real wide receiver. We haven't had one since Braylon Edwards the 1st time in my opinion. Everyone was in love with Holmes with his clutch plays but he was never a true number 1. Stephen Hill has not worked out he still could develop but will probably never be better then a #3. Jeremy Kelley is Jericho crotchety 2.0 great gutty slot player but never a true #1. Drafting a great wide receiver next year who could develop with Gino might really help him out.


I think we can be alright w/o the draft. we don't have 2-3 years for one to develop and a lot of good FA WRs are out there. we could grab a guy like maclin or nicks and pair them with holmes (assuming he takes a paycut) plus kerly and hill in the slot and nelson/salas in the 5th and 6 spots.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:53 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 09 December 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

I think we can be alright w/o the draft. we don't have 2-3 years for one to develop and a lot of good FA WRs are out there. we could grab a guy like maclin or nicks and pair them with holmes (assuming he takes a paycut) plus kerly and hill in the slot and nelson/salas in the 5th and 6 spots.

We should just cut Hill. He is a bust.
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 07:04 PM

Hill still gets another year maybe 2 to develop. He was a project when he was drafted and most WR don't break out till year 3. He is big and fast he may still get there
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 07:35 PM

View Postbleedsgreen, on 09 December 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

Hill still gets another year maybe 2 to develop. He was a project when he was drafted and most WR don't break out till year 3. He is big and fast he may still get there

I was just busting 115s chops. He is a big Hill supporter
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 10:17 PM

I think hill has been a disappointment. I remember being at his first game against the bills when he scored 2 TDs. I thought he was the second coming of jerry rice then reality set in.
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 02:55 PM

What we saw from Geno against Oakland was much better, although it was ridiculous that the commentators were praising him for having one of his best games in the NFL. Geno did look more confident in the pocket even when there was pressure, used his legs well and his accuracy was better.

Yet the interception he threw (and the play before when he was almost picked of) were awful, while the offense seemed to have been scaled down. There certainly weren't as many deep throws called than has been the case throughout the year.

I think he certainly deserves to start the next three games and that giving significant playing time to Simms at this point would be counter-productive. Prior to the Raiders game there may have been a case for that. But now Geno's had his first solid game in a few weeks, let him play out the season and hopefully build some more confidence.
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:33 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 11 December 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

What we saw from Geno against Oakland was much better, although it was ridiculous that the commentators were praising him for having one of his best games in the NFL. Geno did look more confident in the pocket even when there was pressure, used his legs well and his accuracy was better.

Yet the interception he threw (and the play before when he was almost picked of) were awful, while the offense seemed to have been scaled down. There certainly weren't as many deep throws called than has been the case throughout the year.

I think he certainly deserves to start the next three games and that giving significant playing time to Simms at this point would be counter-productive. Prior to the Raiders game there may have been a case for that. But now Geno's had his first solid game in a few weeks, let him play out the season and hopefully build some more confidence.


IMO from what i seen, is geno is best throwing the ball downfield. in the 15+ yard range. he has zip and throws a nice deep ball. but in the short game (the 5-10 yard throws) he struggles where accuracy is so important in traffic. his pick against oak was a little behind a WR on 3rd down that if thrown in the right spot would have been a 1st down. Thats the kind of throws peyton manning never misses. If geno wants to succeed he needs to make those throws period. I think that marty need to roll him out more and give him space to see the field and let him air it out. geno wont be succesfull running a timing offense. he needs to be in a an attack down the field offense
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:57 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 11 December 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

IMO from what i seen, is geno is best throwing the ball downfield. in the 15+ yard range. he has zip and throws a nice deep ball. but in the short game (the 5-10 yard throws) he struggles where accuracy is so important in traffic. his pick against oak was a little behind a WR on 3rd down that if thrown in the right spot would have been a 1st down. Thats the kind of throws peyton manning never misses. If geno wants to succeed he needs to make those throws period. I think that marty need to roll him out more and give him space to see the field and let him air it out. geno wont be succesfull running a timing offense. he needs to be in a an attack down the field offense

He also looked best in the 2 minute offense. That may be key against the Panthers great D
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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:08 AM

Geno lacks a great touch and zip on his throws . he should go work out with drew breeze during the off season . please don't go to jet west . other wise the best Geno can do is be a lesser Eli . if there is a common fact about the Jets they can't pick a winner at QB .and neither can any jet fans around here.
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Posted 13 December 2013 - 02:00 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 09 December 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

I think we can be alright w/o the draft. we don't have 2-3 years for one to develop and a lot of good FA WRs are out there. we could grab a guy like maclin or nicks and pair them with holmes (assuming he takes a paycut) plus kerly and hill in the slot and nelson/salas in the 5th and 6 spots.

Don't agree. I do like buying a WR in free agency but still believe we need to draft a stud if possible. Think we should go QB in round 1 if Manziel is available (fat chance). Would even trade up to get him and I never like trading up. Otherwise I like this kid Bortles and Garrapola (East Illinois) but he may come much cheaper in later rounds.

I especially like Mike Evans from A&M and if he is available when we draft we should grab him (again, this assumes Manziel is off the board).

The simple fact is that I have no confidence in Smith. Not saying he can't get much better but I am saying that gambling on him to be the guy and if not, wasting another 3 years after the 4 year waste with Sanchez just doesn't make sense.

If Idzik is true to his word, the competition will bring the best out in both QB's.
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Posted 13 December 2013 - 04:03 PM

View Postchocomag, on 13 December 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

Don't agree. I do like buying a WR in free agency but still believe we need to draft a stud if possible. Think we should go QB in round 1 if Manziel is available (fat chance). Would even trade up to get him and I never like trading up. Otherwise I like this kid Bortles and Garrapola (East Illinois) but he may come much cheaper in later rounds.

I especially like Mike Evans from A&M and if he is available when we draft we should grab him (again, this assumes Manziel is off the board).

The simple fact is that I have no confidence in Smith. Not saying he can't get much better but I am saying that gambling on him to be the guy and if not, wasting another 3 years after the 4 year waste with Sanchez just doesn't make sense.

If Idzik is true to his word, the competition will bring the best out in both QB's.


I'm not against drafting a QB high at all. But WR isn't as big of a need right now. Especially with the FA market saturated this year. Guys like nicks and maclin are number 1st and young (25,26) and can instantly make a difference. Add in holmes kerly hill nelson etc. We need a TE (cumberland is average and winslow is average , old, and injured all teh time. O-line (RG, RT, LG) RB (ivory and powell aren't game breakers) if we can get a LG, RT, RB in rounds 2-3 (we have 2 3rds) a TE in the 4th, QB in the 1st, and some o-line i'd be happy.
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Posted 13 December 2013 - 08:29 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 13 December 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

I'm not against drafting a QB high at all. But WR isn't as big of a need right now. Especially with the FA market saturated this year. Guys like nicks and maclin are number 1st and young (25,26) and can instantly make a difference. Add in holmes kerly hill nelson etc. We need a TE (cumberland is average and winslow is average , old, and injured all teh time. O-line (RG, RT, LG) RB (ivory and powell aren't game breakers) if we can get a LG, RT, RB in rounds 2-3 (we have 2 3rds) a TE in the 4th, QB in the 1st, and some o-line i'd be happy.


The Jets need a game-breaker at WR. There are no game-breakers in free agency this year.

Holmes won't be on the team next year. Kerley is a #3. Hill is a worthless bust. Nelson is a league average #3 or #4 at best.

HOW is WR not a big need?
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