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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Damn they got Shady
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:06 AM) #2 baby
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (04 March 2015 - 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:20 PM) Cassel blows
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:48 AM) Vince Wilfork will be a FA. Pats will not pick up his $8 million option. Looks like they are gearing up to keep Revis.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:35 AM) Bears shopping Marshall for a mid round pick
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:31 PM) What does his contract look like? Offer a 7th conditional 6th if we do something if the $$s are right.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:37 PM) He is almost due 9.6 million this year and has 2 years left. He is defiantly better than Harvin although a little older @ 30
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:55 PM) I'd rather sign Maclin or Cobb and then draft a WR early
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:55 PM) I am not real big on Cobb. I think he is a poor mans Harvin. Living in WI I watch most Packer games. He does have talent and he is a good receiver but without Rogers he will not be very good.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:27 PM) looks like David Harris will go to the Bills, and I'm fine with that. Hes getting older and declining.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) i guess davis takes the MLB spot then pace on one side. who is on the other? barnes
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) babin maybe?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) coples moves to DE, richardson to DT, snacks at DT and wilk at DE
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 03:59 PM) its too early to tell. Our roster is not anywhere near where it will be come opening day.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:00 PM) Couples has had the most success when he was in a 4 man front though.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:19 PM) no
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS NOTHING BUT CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS
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Who Is To Blame?

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 11:09 AM

Being a homer, its impossible to see things as they really are. That being said, who is "DEVELOPING" these players? Our draft has been all but exclusively Defense. I HAD high hopes for Wilson while he was training with Revis pre injury...he has settled in as the nickle & this week didnt get to play corner over vet Lankster after miliner was pulled. We have Walls that has shown some flashes of improvement here & there. On offense, how is our line getting worse? What AREN'T they being worked on? Hill is stupid fast...yet can't get open to save his life, doesn't make adjustments on the fly (Like not comin back to the ball on a nice tight spiral Simms threw in the end zone like NORMAL WRs would do) & the dropsies (who isnt MAKING him stay on the jugs for 100 catches before & after practice) Then there is our QB situation we have been enduring for so many years! With Sanchez I felt they were trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole. Gina is deflated & no one seems to be able to get his head right.

I just wonder who is suppose to be developing these players? Are we THAT talentless? I don't think its as doom & gloom as it seems.

Just my thoughts as I wallow in self pity feeling Power is a good back, Cumberland is a good TE, Kerley is a good #3, Ivory is a good back, Simms is workable to be our best option...I dont know...Like I said, Imma homer & see our team through rose colored glasses.
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Posted 02 December 2013 - 11:38 AM

FIRE IZDICK
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Posted 02 December 2013 - 11:41 AM

But no...Mike Tannenbaum is the one to blame. He put the Jets in this position. There are a bunch of people here saying to start Simms and all that dumb shit but I really didn't see him do anything Geno couldn't. It's probably better to have Geno finish out the year and I am far from a Geno Smith homer but the fact of the matter is and I will keep saying it, he needs time. His entire body of work should not be judged based on these games in a transitional year where he has nobody else around him. Geno does need to do a lot of things better himself and that is pretty evident yesterday but what better time to do that in a transitional year where there were no expectations to be had in the first place? The kid can take his lumps for the rest of the year and with any luck in 2015 he will get some more help via free agency and the draft. If Idzik wants to get some more offensive help in here and then wants to sign a experienced quarterback like Michael Vick I would be okay with that
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Posted 02 December 2013 - 12:26 PM

I dont know...honestly, the reason I dont like Gina is his demeanor. Not the shit that happens because of his decisions. Every time they show him:be it getting to the stadium, on the sideline, or any where from start to finish...he looks defeated. He has NO confidence, swag, nothing. His interviews make me think he has Holmes chirping in his ear. He just doesnt strike me as a leader. Sims on the other hand...looks more mobile (even if he isn't) fearless & willing to LEAD. He chose to make a statement in the off season by not attending Sanchez's Jets west, which I would think he would JUMP on ANY chance to work with the WRs. Just strikes me as an individual that has 10 others on the field with him.
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Posted 02 December 2013 - 01:33 PM

I think we all knew this was a rebuilding year week one. We won a few games and people got there expectations up and now we are ready to jump off the bridge. We may win one more game this year. lets be realistic. It will be another couple years before we are contenders.
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Posted 02 December 2013 - 01:58 PM

The main culprit of this organization being in the position that they are in....Robert "Woody" Johnson who has no passion for this organization, this business and most importantly the fan-base...he is driven by 1 thing and 1 thing only...THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR and how he can continue to grow that pile of CASH and not put a tangible product which is how you actually make that money pile grow more and more...
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Posted 02 December 2013 - 04:05 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 02 December 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

But no...Mike Tannenbaum is the one to blame. He put the Jets in this position. There are a bunch of people here saying to start Simms and all that dumb shit but I really didn't see him do anything Geno couldn't. It's probably better to have Geno finish out the year and I am far from a Geno Smith homer but the fact of the matter is and I will keep saying it, he needs time. His entire body of work should not be judged based on these games in a transitional year where he has nobody else around him. Geno does need to do a lot of things better himself and that is pretty evident yesterday but what better time to do that in a transitional year where there were no expectations to be had in the first place? The kid can take his lumps for the rest of the year and with any luck in 2015 he will get some more help via free agency and the draft. If Idzik wants to get some more offensive help in here and then wants to sign a experienced quarterback like Michael Vick I would be okay with that


Yep - we're paying largely for a vacuum of young talent on the roster.

The folly of frittering away draft picks for veterans has come to roost in these past couple of seasons.

While we may not have been too far away from the Super Bowl in Rex's first couple of seasons and as good as some of the acquisitions have been (for instance Cro and Braylon), Tannenbaum was too much of a gambler. Hindsight is always 20-20, and I may have supported some of the moves back when they were made, but the lack of young talent and depth on the team is really holding us back.

Some of our high draft picks - Ducasse and Hill especially - were gambles as well that haven't paid off. Instead we could have taken players with slightly less potential 'upside', but far less risk and greater production. Instead, their failure to pan out is partly why we have players like David Nelson contributing so much and Brian Winters thrown into the fray so early.

Just looking at our recent draft history now, from 2008 there are no selections still on the roster (Keller was the last to go). Of the three selected in 2009, just Sanchez remains - and likelier not for much longer. From 2010, there's Wilson and Ducasse still around. We're starting to see some value from Wilson, but next to none from Ducasse. The 2011 and 2012 classes have been better, although the Hill pick hasn't upgraded our receiving corps. But the lack of impact players from the three preceding years - players who would now be in the prime of their careers - hurts. And those picks that haven't panned out mean Idzik will have to plug holes that he shouldn't really have to.
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Posted 02 December 2013 - 04:11 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 02 December 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Yep - we're paying largely for a vacuum of young talent on the roster.

The folly of frittering away draft picks for veterans has come to roost in these past couple of seasons.

While we may not have been too far away from the Super Bowl in Rex's first couple of seasons and as good as some of the acquisitions have been (for instance Cro and Braylon), Tannenbaum was too much of a gambler. Hindsight is always 20-20, and I may have supported some of the moves back when they were made, but the lack of young talent and depth on the team is really holding us back.

Some of our high draft picks - Ducasse and Hill especially - were gambles as well that haven't paid off. Instead we could have taken players with slightly less potential 'upside', but far less risk and greater production. Instead, their failure to pan out is partly why we have players like David Nelson contributing so much and Brian Winters thrown into the fray so early.

Just looking at our recent draft history now, from 2008 there are no selections still on the roster (Keller was the last to go). Of the three selected in 2009, just Sanchez remains - and likelier not for much longer. From 2010, there's Wilson and Ducasse still around. We're starting to see some value from Wilson, but next to none from Ducasse. The 2011 and 2012 classes have been better, although the Hill pick hasn't upgraded our receiving corps. But the lack of impact players from the three preceding years - players who would now be in the prime of their careers - hurts. And those picks that haven't panned out mean Idzik will have to plug holes that he shouldn't really have to.



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Posted 02 December 2013 - 06:52 PM

Rex, COME ON MAN ! Geno can't see tthe field any better than Ray Charles can... This turd can't even hit wide open recievers... Only thing good about Geno starting is getting a better draft pick... 1 TD & 11 int's, not to mention fumbles, total yrds, and time of possesion.... I feel bad for our D-fence, they can't even catch their breath and back on the field they go.
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Posted 03 December 2013 - 08:05 PM

View Postganggreen2003, on 02 December 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

The main culprit of this organization being in the position that they are in....Robert "Woody" Johnson who has no passion for this organization, this business and most importantly the fan-base...he is driven by 1 thing and 1 thing only...THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR and how he can continue to grow that pile of CASH and not put a tangible product which is how you actually make that money pile grow more and more...


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