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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Future Of Rex?

Poll: Will Rex be the HC next year (13 member(s) have cast votes)

Will Rex be the HC next year

  1. Yes (9 votes [69.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 69.23%

  2. No (4 votes [30.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.77%

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:23 AM

So I have one mindset that loved the guy and believes without him we would have 2 wins this year. I have another mindset that the reason why our O is so horrid is because of Rex. Is he not a well enough rounded head coach? Does he tend to pursuade the GM to draft heavy on defense because that is what he is comfortable with? I guess my question would start with would we be better with someone else and is so who would that be. Looking around the league I don't see a clear answer.
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:35 AM

I'm with you on this 100%. I have no clue as to what should happen to Rex. Part of me wants him back. He guarantees a competitive D every season. But the nonsense that has been going on the offensive side of the ball has been...offensive. Part of it has to do with the lack of depth, another part with the lack of talent. With the Jets finally having some cap room and draft picks to play with this coming season, I want them to truly commit to the offense. But that brings forth another question, how long do we as fans keep making up excuses? We have blamed the lack of production by the offense on the OC, the talent, the QB, the injures, wasted money, etc etc. The buck needs to stop somewhere. I think Rex's future heavily depends on what happens the next 4 games against the Raiders, Panthers, Browns, and Dolphins. Jets need to remain competitive in these games for Rex to have a good shot at potentially returning.
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:38 AM

If the season keeps going like this, probably not. They'll fire him and bring in a offensive minded HC to try and turn around this pathetic offense.

Or they may figure its a talent thing and keep the coaching staff and try to get offensive talent.
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:53 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 04 December 2013 - 10:38 AM, said:

If the season keeps going like this, probably not. They'll fire him and bring in a offensive minded HC to try and turn around this pathetic offense.

Or they may figure its a talent thing and keep the coaching staff and try to get offensive talent.

This is 100% a talent issue. Marty can run the O as well as anyone. I guess my point was is Rex hurting us by being such a one sided coach? There are other defensive minded coaches out there who are sucessful but I believe those other coaches are more rounded and have more talent. What amount of liability is Rex?
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 01:20 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 04 December 2013 - 09:53 AM, said:

This is 100% a talent issue. Marty can run the O as well as anyone. I guess my point was is Rex hurting us by being such a one sided coach? There are other defensive minded coaches out there who are sucessful but I believe those other coaches are more rounded and have more talent. What amount of liability is Rex?


i agree with this. Rex has had us a top 10 defense every year and that is with a pitiful offense always giving away points. The offense woes are pure lack of talent. marty is a very good OC buy with a rookie QB a poor oline and a below average WR group what can you expect?
Get it done MT
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:06 PM

My gripe with Rex is he cannot get this team prepared for BIG games. Too many letdowns IMO.
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 04:17 PM

View PostJSOTF, on 04 December 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

My gripe with Rex is he cannot get this team prepared for BIG games. Too many letdowns IMO.

It seems to me the opposite is true. We beat the Pats in a Playoff game we had no business winning but come out flat against the Steelers. This year we beat the Pats but then get killed by the Bengals. We beat the Saints but then..... It would seem we are ready for the big ones but we let ourselves get comfy after that win.
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:32 PM

Thois team is still rebuilding. I dont know what my feelings are with Rex at this point but I dont think he should be judged for Tanny`s screw ups.

Really cant blame Idzik for Geno because we knew going into the draft that there probably weren't any legit top level qb`s but they had to try because sticking with Sanchez wasn't the answer.As bad as Geno has been at times it was a needed and refreshing change.

Most of the defensive draft picks worked out.... though the book is still out on Milliner.He may just need time since his position is one of the harder spots to play.
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 06:21 AM

Really hope he's removed as HC.
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:50 PM

Jets have exceeded expectations set by the organization and showed critics that we can compete...well defensively. I know this never happens but what are the possibilities of switching Marty and Rex roles as HC and DC. Rex has proven again and again why he should be a def coor., he has no clue what offense is.
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 01:14 PM

View Postblk_orion, on 05 December 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

Jets have exceeded expectations set by the organization and showed critics that we can compete...well defensively. I know this never happens but what are the possibilities of switching Marty and Rex roles as HC and DC. Rex has proven again and again why he should be a def coor., he has no clue what offense is.


No chance at all... A HC would not accept a demotion on that team to a coordinator role. He may take a DC job elsewhere, but not here. And he would probably get another HC job elsewhere first.


Marty was a terrible HC in Detroit.

If Rex is fired, I would definitely hire a offensive minded HC, not Marty though. My first choice would probably be Jon Gruden, since he is a offensive minded coach and has experience as a HC. I wouldn't mind his brother either, Jay Gruden, hes done a nice job in Cinci as OC.

If we go to the college ranks for a HC, I would be up for David Shaw. He was in the NFL as a coach from 1997-2005, he has a offensive background and has experience as a HC but in college.
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:22 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 05 December 2013 - 11:21 AM, said:

Really hope he's removed as HC.


But who would be the candidates to replace him? Is there really a current coordinator out there who would do a better job than Rex?
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:26 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 05 December 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

No chance at all... A HC would not accept a demotion on that team to a coordinator role. He may take a DC job elsewhere, but not here. And he would probably get another HC job elsewhere first.


Marty was a terrible HC in Detroit.

If Rex is fired, I would definitely hire a offensive minded HC, not Marty though. My first choice would probably be Jon Gruden, since he is a offensive minded coach and has experience as a HC. I wouldn't mind his brother either, Jay Gruden, hes done a nice job in Cinci as OC.

If we go to the college ranks for a HC, I would be up for David Shaw. He was in the NFL as a coach from 1997-2005, he has a offensive background and has experience as a HC but in college.


I think he knows he would be hired pretty quickly as a HC somewhere else. He has not had a team with talent on the Offensive side of the ball yet. In the AFC Championship years he had all but a QB. He could go to a team like the Lions, Cowboys, Falcons or even Panthers. All teams with HCs on the hot seat and with a QB.
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:29 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 05 December 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

But who would be the candidates to replace him? Is there really a current coordinator out there who would do a better job than Rex?


More than willing to take a chance on someone else, yes.

Not sure exactly what Rex has done the past couple seasons to warrant any sort of unconditional backing.

Jay Gruden or Pete Carmichael would be my choices.
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:39 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 05 December 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

More than willing to take a chance on someone else, yes.

Not sure exactly what Rex has done the past couple seasons to warrant any sort of unconditional backing.

Jay Gruden or Pete Carmichael would be my choices.

I would not say unconditional. Do you think Jay or Pete could have done more with the current staff?
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:40 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 05 December 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

I would not say unconditional. Do you think Jay or Pete could have done more with the current staff?


Don't just blame every roster move on Tanny.

Rex has had his say.

This team gets worse EVERY year further from Mangini.
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 07:36 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 05 December 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Don't just blame every roster move on Tanny.

Rex has had his say.

This team gets worse EVERY year further from Mangini.
I would be silly to argue that point because you are right. My point is he should not be in the drafting and FA process. This should be on the GM And scouting staff. I believe we have the coaching staff in place to win. We need to evaluate how we bring in new talent. The opposite of the Parcells comment about groceries.
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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:16 AM

I agree that we have the coaching staff in place to win. Let's see what Idzik bring in this offseason.

View Postazjetfan, on 05 December 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

I would be silly to argue that point because you are right. My point is he should not be in the drafting and FA process. This should be on the GM And scouting staff. I believe we have the coaching staff in place to win. We need to evaluate how we bring in new talent. The opposite of the Parcells comment about groceries.

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:02 AM

we gotta watch our $ spent. We drop too much for sanchez (& I LIKE HIM...but not at the price tag) It would be nice if we could be comfortable under the cap for a change (I know its a pipe dream cause people want their $) But dam, why cant we get better talent evals on the draft picks. I see so much wasted & picks traded for maybes. I hate that bellichek did us dirty takin the HC job for less than 24 hours, but that fool does it right (gotta respect his gangster) As much talk as our D has generated...we still have no steady play up front, no play makin LB, wasted corners, & shallow at safety. (& thats our GOOD side of the ball!)
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Posted 06 December 2013 - 11:35 AM

I've been pretty much out of town on the board this year because I have only seen two Jets games (that and the board is really slow anymore and I don't have a lot of new stuff to say), so here is my year ending poll vote and opinion:

Yes, Rex gets fired and deserves to be fired.

This team continues to get less talented all the time and that isn't just a draft issue. Guys who four years ago were considered elite or higher tier (Mangold, Harris, Ferguson) have all dwindled to this-guy's-a-starter status. This isn't just poor investment in new players, it is the coaching staff's inability to develop players. We have three or four players from the past five drafts who are useful to this team (Richardson, Wilkerson, Kerley and Davis). Not every player we are drafting is trash. That is absurd. It isn't just that some teams draft great, it is that they find ways to use guys. The Jets, under Ryan, don't do this.

Another huge issue is the way Ryan handles situations. Sanchez was considered to be risky because he only had a year of experience, but he ended up the starter and was under that pressure from the start. Now Smith, another player with some transitional issues from college to the NFL, is tossed in right away and struggles. Smith has player terribly and outside of some good plays at the start of teh season, he has played worse almost every week. Yet again, this team doesn't/won't trust the backup QB enough to bring him in. Sanchez had all sorts of bizarre "tools" given to him that were basically public humiliations (the stop light bracelet, sliding school from a Yankee, etc) and now Milliner has been repeatedly benched, etc. These aren't ways to train or motivate players. Either Milliner should start or not-it shouldn't be a weekly halftime decision.

Outside of new examples of why Ryan is an awful HC and why he is a great DC, this is the same year we have had for the past two years. Get rid of Ryan, improve player scouting in the organisation and get a plan for the future. If Mangini can get fired in a season where his starting QB is injured the final third of the season and they still go 9-7, then Ryan definitely can go.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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