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azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
santana Icon : (Today, 08:08 PM) THE CAPS
santana Icon : (Today, 08:28 PM) RIOT
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 08:37 PM) Missouri edge rusher Shane Ray was arrested Monday morning for possession of marijuana in Cooper County, Missouri, Brandon Kiley of KTGR in Columbia, Missouri reports.
santana Icon : (Today, 09:16 PM) Fuck the rangers!
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 10:22 PM) f*** RAUL
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 10:22 PM) LETS GO RANGERS
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 10:22 PM) #LGR
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:38 PM

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NY Jets rookie Brian Winters struggles on offensive line
Winters is performing poorly enough that some on the outside are wondering if the Jets ought to make a change at least while the playoffs are still possible, turning back to Vlad Ducasse.

Brian Winters had a rough game against the Raiders and has been one of several rookies to have had a hard time this season for the Jets.

Despite what Rex Ryan might say publicly, his rookies as a group have failed to meet expectations. Geno Smith has struggled mightily in many of his games. Dee Milliner has been benched three times for poor performance. But right alongside them has been Brian Winters, who has not been an adequate left guard since taking over the starting job from Vlad Ducasse in Week 5.

Although Smith and Milliner’s problems are far more in the public eye, Winters is performing poorly enough that some on the outside are wondering if the Jets ought to make a change at least while the playoffs are still possible. While the best alternative isn’t pretty — turning back to the underwhelming Ducasse — Winters’ issues are dramatic enough that it could be considered. But despite Winters’ rough transition into the starting lineup, at least two of his linemates feel it would be counter-productive to make a change now, especially since such a move would also affect D’Brickashaw Ferguson, the Jets’ best offensive lineman.

“That doesn’t do nothing for us,” Willie Colon told the Daily News. “At the same time it’s bigger than (Winters and) Vlad: it’s Brick. Brick has to work with them; he’s just now trying to build a rapport with Brian. To have that flip-flop at this time doesn’t help anybody.”

Winters, who is currently rated 72nd of 76 guards across the league by ProFootballFocus.com, surrendered two quarterback hits and one hurry against the Raiders on Sunday. But worse than that was his blocking in the run game: all three negative runs the Jets had last Sunday were directly tied to Winters getting beat. But still, his teammates stand by him.

“I don’t think that’s obviously the answer, to makes moves, changes,” Ferguson said.

“That’s something maybe later down the road you can entertain again, but right now Brian’s our guy,” Colon added. “You’ve got to stay with him.”

Ducasse said he hasn’t been told his role will change in the coming weeks.

Winters played tackle in college, but transitioned to guard as a Jet. It’s a move Colon can relate to, after having made the same transition during his pro career.

“A lot of it’s spacing,” Colon said. “Knowing where your help’s at. Knowing how to react to things.”

“He knows that a lot of his mishaps are his own doing and a lot of it’s mechanical issues,” Colon added. “It’s his first time playing left guard in the NFL, and you know it takes time, time to grow, time to develop. It’s just a matter of staying patient.”
David Harris misses tackling Raiders QB Matt McGloin during Sunday's game.
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David Harris misses tackling Raiders QB Matt McGloin during Sunday's game.

MAKES THE GRADE
David Harris likely won’t forget about how badly he was juked on Sunday. It was a bad missed tackle against any runner, but it was far worse because the ball carrier who eluded him was Raiders QB Matt McGloin. The quarterback ended up running for 20 yards on the fourth-quarter play.

It was surprising, too, because Harris has rebounded nicely this season after disappointing a year ago. And he’s receiving high praise from his linebackers coach, Brian VanGorder.

“The assignment grades that he gets are as high as I’ve ever had for a linebacker,” VanGorder said. “So he’s really been outstanding.”

VanGorder has previously coached for the Falcons, Jaguars and Auburn Tigers. He hands out a plus or minus assignment and technique grade for each play.

“I think he’s a very realistic professional, so him recognizing that his play a year ago wasn’t up to his standards and expectations, based on who he is, you were going to get a positive response,” VanGorder said.

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X’s AND O’s
Rex Ryan’s explanation for why Ed Reed played less on Sunday was because he knew it was going to be a “physical” game. Translation: Reed’s greatest deficiency is tackling, and when Terrelle Pryor came in the game, the Jets needed someone who would hit.

HOT SEAT
Who else but Ryan? With the Jets at 6-7, Ryan’s job security is certainly in question, but it’s plenty possible that Woody Johnson and John Idzik have already made up their minds one way or the other regardless of how the next three games turn out.

WHISPERS
Muhammad Wilkerson had a surprisingly weak game against the Raiders. It probably isn’t cause for concern — even the best have off days — but he didn’t look like the Pro Bowler he’s been for most of the rest of the season.

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