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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:14 PM) finally made a play on defense once Pryor came in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:15 PM) besides that INT, Geno looks better than last season IMO. seems more comfortable and is going through progressions.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:18 PM) DeMario Davis seems like hes poised to have a breakout season at LB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:50 PM) It was nice seeing Pryor in, he made some plays. I think hes going to be the real deal and that we will hit on a stud with him
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) The pick by Geno seemed to be more on Nelson. Nelson sat on his route. Geno threw it were he was supposed to be.
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:44 PM) Who knows though
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) http://gfycat.com/Mi...idHookersealion
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Studs And Duds (The Season So Far)

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:48 PM

With the season almost over, here are my 2013 jets studs and duds

Studs
Rex - our defense is still tops in the NFL despite the lack of offense
Marty - our offense sadly is much improved even with no WRs and a rookie QB. much better the sparano and schotty
Wilkerson - no explanation needed
Pace - revived himself this year. should crack 10 sacks and the jets will have 2 10+ sack players this year for the 1st time since ellis and abe did it a long time ago
Snacks - what a steal he has been
Richardson - has to be in the running for DROTY
Davis - playing better for us then scott ever did
harris - stuffing the run and leading us in tackles
kyle wilson - quietly having a great year
Allen - looks like a 7th round steal. has covered some really good TEs very well
Folk - 1 missed FG all year. Hit every game winner he had a chance to take
Mangold - still playing as a top center

Duds
Geno - i know he is a rookie an dhas had good moments but too many turnovers and pick 6s
Brick - had a down year
Cro - hopefuly its teh injury, but he hasn't been himself this year
milner - benched several times over
WR/TEs as a whole - often injured and under-talented all year
Ganggreen2003 - showed up as a dud more often then any jets player
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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:41 PM

My boy Chris Ivory has been a stud, averaging 4.5 YPC. Hes getting tons of yards after contact, something Shonn Greene never did. Quinton Coples came on late, I think the injury slowed things down for him, I'm expecting a big yaer next season in year 3.

The future looks brighter than it did last season, we have some good young players. Still need to find a QB though, but at least we have tons of cap space this offseason to make things interesting.



If it were up to me, I would keep this coaching staff for another season. Try to fix the offense with adding more talent, this team didn't have enough talent this season and had injuries.
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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:57 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 19 December 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:

With the season almost over, here are my 2013 jets studs and duds

Studs
Rex - our defense is still tops in the NFL despite the lack of offense
Marty - our offense sadly is much improved even with no WRs and a rookie QB. much better the sparano and schotty
Wilkerson - no explanation needed
Pace - revived himself this year. should crack 10 sacks and the jets will have 2 10+ sack players this year for the 1st time since ellis and abe did it a long time ago
Snacks - what a steal he has been
Richardson - has to be in the running for DROTY
Davis - playing better for us then scott ever did
harris - stuffing the run and leading us in tackles
kyle wilson - quietly having a great year
Allen - looks like a 7th round steal. has covered some really good TEs very well
Folk - 1 missed FG all year. Hit every game winner he had a chance to take
Mangold - still playing as a top center

Duds
Geno - i know he is a rookie an dhas had good moments but too many turnovers and pick 6s
Brick - had a down year
Cro - hopefuly its teh injury, but he hasn't been himself this year
milner - benched several times over
WR/TEs as a whole - often injured and under-talented all year


I agree with all but Brick and Milliner. He has been asked to play solo way more than most LT due to Winters. Usually the LT gets help from somewhere but that help has gone to Winters. Milliner has come on much better in the past few weeks. Also a rookie playing in one of the most complex schemes in the NFL. Outside of Offensive production the team has played well. I love Rex in the studs column. I believe he has done a great job with a poor cast. Not sure how many coaches could have done more.
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Posted 19 December 2013 - 04:24 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 19 December 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

My boy Chris Ivory has been a stud, averaging 4.5 YPC. Hes getting tons of yards after contact, something Shonn Greene never did. Quinton Coples came on late, I think the injury slowed things down for him, I'm expecting a big yaer next season in year 3.

The future looks brighter than it did last season, we have some good young players. Still need to find a QB though, but at least we have tons of cap space this offseason to make things interesting.



If it were up to me, I would keep this coaching staff for another season. Try to fix the offense with adding more talent, this team didn't have enough talent this season and had injuries.


I couldn't put ivory up there really. he gets taken out on passing downs due to poor blocking, doesn't catch the ball well, and has missed a lot of time due to injuries. He does run hard and i like his power inside, but he has been far from a stud this season. I agree on coples, but again its for the whole season, and as a whole he hasn't been a big contributer.

View Postazjetfan, on 19 December 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

I agree with all but Brick and Milliner. He has been asked to play solo way more than most LT due to Winters. Usually the LT gets help from somewhere but that help has gone to Winters. Milliner has come on much better in the past few weeks. Also a rookie playing in one of the most complex schemes in the NFL. Outside of Offensive production the team has played well. I love Rex in the studs column. I believe he has done a great job with a poor cast. Not sure how many coaches could have done more.


Again its the whole season. brick had high expectations. he was a shutout LT on his own against some of the best in the game in previous years, but this year he's been beat a lot. And millner has been benched like 3-4 times. just becuase he has had a few good games lately doens't make him a stud or not a bust for the year. and yes rex deservers it. were not very talented and were supposd to win 4 games at best and will probably be 8-8
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Posted 21 December 2013 - 10:25 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 19 December 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

Again its the whole season. brick had high expectations. he was a shutout LT on his own against some of the best in the game in previous years, but this year he's been beat a lot. And millner has been benched like 3-4 times. just becuase he has had a few good games lately doens't make him a stud or not a bust for the year. and yes rex deservers it. were not very talented and were supposd to win 4 games at best and will probably be 8-8

No TE chipping, FB and HB staying in pocket to block, and a rookie QB holding onto the ball to long. His results have been poor I guess if that is what we are measuring but it is because of the issues around him not his ability to play the game. I would not be surprised to see his peers vote him into the ProBowl.
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Posted 22 December 2013 - 05:07 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 19 December 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

With the season almost over, here are my 2013 jets studs and duds

Studs
Rex - our defense is still tops in the NFL despite the lack of offense
Marty - our offense sadly is much improved even with no WRs and a rookie QB. much better the sparano and schotty
Wilkerson - no explanation needed
Pace - revived himself this year. should crack 10 sacks and the jets will have 2 10+ sack players this year for the 1st time since ellis and abe did it a long time ago
Snacks - what a steal he has been
Richardson - has to be in the running for DROTY
Davis - playing better for us then scott ever did
harris - stuffing the run and leading us in tackles
kyle wilson - quietly having a great year
Allen - looks like a 7th round steal. has covered some really good TEs very well
Folk - 1 missed FG all year. Hit every game winner he had a chance to take
Mangold - still playing as a top center

Duds
Geno - i know he is a rookie and has had good moments but too many turnovers and pick 6s
Brick - had a down year
Cro - hopefuly its teh injury, but he hasn't been himself this year
milner - benched several times over
WR/TEs as a whole - often injured and under-talented all year



I'd agree with everything but the WR/TE as a whole thing. There's NO DOUBT that both Holmes & Hill both fall into the Dud category but I can't include Kerley, Nelson & Salas into that category as those three have played to their abilities. Cribbs, prior to his injury, actually added a pass component to that bullshit WildCat. Cumberland was middle of the road and so was Winslow. If their numbers aren't called, they can't move into the studs. Cumberland has done a better job as the season progressed. Our biggest issue is we have no real #1 @ WR. We've got a bunch of #3's at best.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:29 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 22 December 2013 - 03:25 AM, said:

No TE chipping, FB and HB staying in pocket to block, and a rookie QB holding onto the ball to long. His results have been poor I guess if that is what we are measuring but it is because of the issues around him not his ability to play the game. I would not be surprised to see his peers vote him into the ProBowl.


I would class our offensive line as having had an up and down season, and with seasoned veterans such as Ferguson, Mangold and Colon they could certainly have done better, especially in pass protection. Our running backs may have one of the better YPC averages in the league, but we're tied with Jacksonville for the second most sacks allowed in the league.

Generally I think the studs are quite easy to categorise:

The front seven on defence, Wilkerson, Richardson and Harrison especially, have been phenomenal. Pace has had a great season - his double digit sack numbers came almost out of nowhere - and he has been helped by having such a dominant group around him.
On offense, Ivory and Powell have been consistently good. They're by no means the best one-two RB tandem in the league, and nor do they have the same quality as Thomas Jones and Shonn Greene did in Rex's first season. But they've been effective and gained yards even when defence have been allowed to zone in on the run. Arrguably, they've been underutilised.
At wide receiver, Jeremy Kerley has made clutch catch after clutch catch; his performance against New England, in particular, was outstanding.
Nick Folk has been superb too and deserves to go to the Pro Bowl. His leg has helped keep us in games where the offense stalled outside of the red zone. To have a kicker who can do that for you is a great help.

On both sides of the ball, we've had healthy contributions from the likes of David Nelson, Antonio Allen, Kyle Wilson, Jeff Cumberland and Kellen Winslow. The latter two have blown hot and cold at times - Winslow's suspension in the middle of the season didn't help. I'd err against calling them studs though, but it's nice that Rex has continued to get these kind of performances from guys who aren't necessarily starters, but who you need to step up.

For some of our big names it's been a very disappointing year. That to me is probably the biggest letdown this season.
Although Cro's battled injuries, he's been off the boil. Holmes, also coming off an injury, hasn't been much of a threat except against the Bills. And he could have been somebody to help ease Geno in to life as an NFL quarterback. Instead he's not really had a trusted every down receiver who he can depend upon.
Hill and Ducasse, two of our most recent second round picks, have continued to make no progress. Thanks Tannenbaum for gambling on the project with upside with those selections rather than go for a safer pick...

When it comes to our rookies, all apart from Richardson have had a tough introduction to life in the NFL. Fortunately Milliner has blossomed in the last couple of weeks.
Geno's form has been infuriating. There have been some good days, but bad performances outnumber those by a ratio of about 2:1. And it's damn frustrating that our QB situation continues to have a question mark hanging over it. Perhaps though it was slightly unrealistic to expect a second round pick with a depleted supporting cast to have led us to more success than we have had. In his defence, our great start to the year has also probably influenced opinion regarding his play in the middle of the season.
Finally, it's good to see Winters and Bohanon get plenty of playing time, though a little frustrating that neither Aboushi nor Campbell has yet to suit up.

Overall, it's been an unexpectedly decent season. Let's hope we can get to .500 by beating the Fins Sunday then head into the offseason with intent.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 05:47 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 19 December 2013 - 04:24 PM, said:

I couldn't put ivory up there really. he gets taken out on passing downs due to poor blocking, doesn't catch the ball well, and has missed a lot of time due to injuries. He does run hard and i like his power inside, but he has been far from a stud this season. I agree on coples, but again its for the whole season, and as a whole he hasn't been a big contributer.



Ivory isn't far from a stud. Dude has 814 yards rushing with a 4.6 YPC. I love watching this guy break tackles every run, he doesn't go down that easily and he has the speed to break long runs.

I wasn't saying Coples is a stud for the season, just that hes came on late and I am hopeful that he'll break out next season. I think his injury held him back early on.
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Posted 26 December 2013 - 04:39 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 24 December 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

Ivory isn't far from a stud. Dude has 814 yards rushing with a 4.6 YPC. I love watching this guy break tackles every run, he doesn't go down that easily and he has the speed to break long runs.

I wasn't saying Coples is a stud for the season, just that hes came on late and I am hopeful that he'll break out next season. I think his injury held him back early on.


Can you really say a back-up RB who can't catch or block is close to being a stud based on 800 yards and a 4.6 average? Back-ups always have higher averages then starters. I do like his tough running. he's the anti-thomas jones, but he isn't a stud unless he can start almsot every game, handlt 20 carries a game, block, andd catch. we need a true #1 RB
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Posted 26 December 2013 - 10:16 PM

I've seen Ivory throw down some nasty blocks, even knocked a guy out. And yes a starting RB doesn't have to catch well. And yes Ivory has been our starting RB for a while now. Either way, Ivory is a stud. Guy can run the rock.
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Posted 28 December 2013 - 11:57 PM

Lol I agree with all the Duds especially Ganggreen2003. Idzik should fire him as a fan lol
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