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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 29 December 2013 - 03:19 AM

That third image is just gruesome... The bone is coming out of the damn skin. I saw this fight at the bar and when we saw Silva go down we thought "f***, broken ankle, what the hell." Then we saw the replay. I swear the whole place just let out when big scream of "ohhh shit" when that happened. It was gruesome and insane. One helluva way to finish ufc 168. Never liked Silva, but it sucks to see his career end like this. However, being a Weidman fan, this was f***ing awesome.
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Posted 29 December 2013 - 05:24 AM

This isn't the first time it has happened but generally when a fighter is kicking at the legs they are trying to connect with the flesh of the opponent legs using their shin bone. When kicking at the legs they are trying to connect with places such as the hamstrings,calves, or the thighs, lower glutes or even side of the knee or back of the knee. Basically anywhere where it is fleshy and not bone against bone to cause damage to the opponent. Its generally to weaken a fighters ability to stand(especially if the fighter is a striker) in mma. Or other sports such as K1 kick boxing and Muay Thai.

Opponents generally try to counter these kicks if they see them coming by raising their leg. This is called "checking the kick". Raising the leg lessons the damage of the kicks and can cause the fighter that is kicking to to connect with the front of the shin bone or front of the knee at times. This is generally where most of these breaks occur.


As shown above Silva connected at the knee because Weideman checked the kick and this caused the break.

It happens every so often though you dont hear about it unless its in the big events.

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 12:22 PM

That is the Ray Longo knee to shin special. That's not just your average leg kick check. Apparently silva fractured the leg in round one With that same kick and finished the break in round 2. Very disappointing to see anyone hurt like that. Especially when 60 million people are watching and he's dedicated the past 4 months into training camp.
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Posted 29 December 2013 - 12:59 PM

View PostRetireChrebet, on 29 December 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

That is the Ray Longo knee to shin special. That's not just your average leg kick check. Apparently silva fractured the leg in round one With that same kick and finished the break in round 2. Very disappointing to see anyone hurt like that. Especially when 60 million people are watching and he's dedicated the past 4 months into training camp.


Agreed, it was an awful way to go out, but I must also say, there's a lot of backlash against Weidman right now that he's a fluke and what-not. I must point out that in the first round Weidman was f***ing kicking his ass. Everyone says he was "finding" a rhythm after round one, but Anderson Silva did not look ready for how well Weidman was prepared for this fight. If it's me, Weidman is definitely the real deal man. Love his demeanor, attitude, and also love the fact that he got Silva. I hope to God he beats Belfort so he can shut every detractor up.
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Posted 29 December 2013 - 01:09 PM

View Postgreenandwhite4life, on 29 December 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Agreed, it was an awful way to go out, but I must also say, there's a lot of backlash against Weidman right now that he's a fluke and what-not. I must point out that in the first round Weidman was f***ing kicking his ass. Everyone says he was "finding" a rhythm after round one, but Anderson Silva did not look ready for how well Weidman was prepared for this fight. If it's me, Weidman is definitely the real deal man. Love his demeanor, attitude, and also love the fact that he got Silva. I hope to God he beats Belfort so he can shut every detractor up.


Silva has lost round one on multiple occasions and came back to finish the fight with a win. Chris was dominating round one for sure but silva had been in that spot before so it's not a forgone conclusion Chris would have won the fight by any means. With that said anyone who thinks Weidman is a fluke or not the real deal clearly has no understanding of the sport and should be ignored.
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Posted 29 December 2013 - 07:26 PM

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That is the Ray Longo knee to shin special. That's not just your average leg kick check.



Or as my coach calls it a "destruction" single worst pain,EVER. Really sucks to see him go out like that, but he didn't seem to be "all there" to begin with that night, just didn't look like himself at all. It's sad for me, I got into the sport because of guys like GSP, and Silva. To see them and a lot of the old guys decline and retire, is depressing.
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Posted 29 December 2013 - 11:52 PM

View Postgreenandwhite4life, on 29 December 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Agreed, it was an awful way to go out, but I must also say, there's a lot of backlash against Weidman right now that he's a fluke and what-not. I must point out that in the first round Weidman was f***ing kicking his ass. Everyone says he was "finding" a rhythm after round one, but Anderson Silva did not look ready for how well Weidman was prepared for this fight. If it's me, Weidman is definitely the real deal man. Love his demeanor, attitude, and also love the fact that he got Silva. I hope to God he beats Belfort so he can shut every detractor up.

The only thing that was a fluke was the injury.

You should tell anyone that says anything bad about Weidman they are not real mma fans and have no understanding of the sport and may a lack of an IQ on top of that. Basically its better just ignoring these people. You'd have a more intelligent conversation with a rock. Its ok for new fans to the sport or occasional fans not to know much about the sport but when these people argue something they dont have a clue about is when the stupidity comes out.

No one is taking anything away from Silva. While I'm not a fan of Silva the man with all the antics he pulled in and out of the cage but as a fighter its hard for any true mma fan not to admire and respect Silva the fighter for what he has achieved.

Anyone that truly is a dedicated fan of mma knows that Anderson Silva has proven himself without a doubt to be the greatest mma fighter ever.No one has reigned as long as he has especially being surrounded by nothing but the best world class fighters makes it even more astounding. While some of his fights were questionable no one has ever been as dominant as Silva.

As for as the morons the fact is Weidman is an undefeated fighter so anyone with a brain should have enough common sense to know the guy has to be good. To be undefeated in the UFC which is the peak of the sport is very hard to do since all the fighters are world class. That alone should get him some respect. This isnt boxing where fighters start off against fighters that couldn't buy a win. In the UFC every fight is hard because it is the top organization in the world for mma.

Next anyone with any understanding of the sport would clearly see that Silva lost every round of both fights.

What made Silva a legend and the best ever is that he always found a way to win. He was far from perfect though. He lost multiple rounds to many different fighters but all that matters is Silva always won before. Chael Sonnen literally destroyed Silva for five straight rounds in their first fight and yet Silva managed a miracle triangle. Legendary World Champions find a way to win even against all odds at times but no one is forever unbeatable.

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Or as my coach calls it a "destruction" single worst pain,EVER. Really sucks to see him go out like that, but he didn't seem to be "all there" to begin with that night, just didn't look like himself at all. It's sad for me, I got into the sport because of guys like GSP, and Silva. To see them and a lot of the old guys decline and retire, is depressing.



Get used to it if you are truly an mma fan you are going to see it happen time and time again.Ive seen a lot of legends go from great to being terrible because they didn't want to quit fighting. They love the sport to much and even when they get beat to a pulp multiple times in a row its hard for many o the greats to call it quits.

Ive been watching since the Pride and UFC 1 in 1993 when there were no time limits and no weight classes. There were fighters 180 pounds fighting 400 pound men. It was awesome but they had to make weight classes and time limits because people like Senator John Mccain tried to put an end to the sport. At one point the UFC was banned from cable and most states in the country and the only way to watch it was through satellite. It took many years before the UFC was able to recover. It very nearly didn't.
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Posted 30 December 2013 - 09:51 PM

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Get used to it if you are truly an mma fan you are going to see it happen time and time again.Ive seen a lot of legends go from great to being terrible because they didn't want to quit fighting. They love the sport to much and even when they get beat to a pulp multiple times in a row its hard for many o the greats to call it quits.

Ive been watching since the Pride and UFC 1 in 1993 when there were no time limits and no weight classes. There were fighters 180 pounds fighting 400 pound men. It was awesome but they had to make weight classes and time limits because people like Senator John Mccain tried to put an end to the sport. At one point the UFC was banned from cable and most states in the country and the only way to watch it was through satellite. It took many years before the UFC was able to recover. It very nearly didn't.


Yeah, I got big big into the sport in god 06-07 when I was fourteen and started training. Grew up on the Chuck/Tito Tito/Ken Hammer house/Chute boxe rivalries. I'm not sure whats worse, seeing guys like GSP retire, or seeing guys like Wanderlei just keep going even though they're well past their prime, and have a shot chin.

That said I still think Fedor is the GOAT, and its a shame Dana/Finkelstein and him couldn't make a super fight happen with Couture.
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Posted 30 December 2013 - 10:17 PM

I would love to see Fedor train like an animal for 6 months and make a run in the ufc. I doubt he doubt beat Velazquez at this point but they are similar in size and could be a good fight. I believe Fedor is only 36 yo. With that said I used to not give Travis brown much credit but he's getting better in every fight. Wouldn't be suprised if he keeps winning.
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Posted 30 December 2013 - 10:27 PM

I thought fedor retired
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