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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 02:45 PM

just wondering what you guys think the jets should do in the draft?

should they go all offense? or best player available even if it's defense?

trade up early? trade down for more pics?
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 04:04 PM

Trade down unless the brass thinks that Geno isn't the future. Go BPA regardless of position.
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 05:03 PM

I'm with SHJ on going with best pick available. The FO doesn't need to force any picks. The team can do with upgrades everywhere aside from the d-line.
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 06:54 PM

I think it depends on what we do in FA. If we sign a WR and a TE and keep our current guys then BPO. If we do not we need to go BPO offense.
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:00 PM

Draft BPA from 115's board please
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:19 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 02 January 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:

Draft BPA from 115's board please


stephen hills brother in the 1st, cousin in the 2nd, sister in the 3rd, and dad in the 4th.

but all kidding aside. draft a ton of offense, but throw in a CB and OLB somehwere
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:33 PM

that's funny 115. hey u never know s. hill could be a secret weapon at cb. he has the speed and corner's hands.
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Posted 05 January 2014 - 08:30 PM

View Postjet-man, on 02 January 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

that's funny 115. hey u never know s. hill could be a secret weapon at cb. he has the speed and corner's hands.


Well, thats a VIABLE option, cause he hasnt shown any growth in 2 years as WR. Honestly, would LOVE to see if he COULD make that switch if he can be the elite WR we thought his size & speed would make him.

I think if we can get ELITE talent @WR, (& I HATE the thought of trading pics) I would be willing to make a move up but ONLY for a sure shot. I know nothing is guaranteed, but Austin...ya, the rams hosed us good getting in front of us for him. We do need speed rushing LB, Corner (even if cro returns to top flight play) cause we have too much uncertainty @ corner, other than that, my PRIORITY is WR! Holmes is to inconsistent, hurt, & NOT leadership material Ditch his ass, LOVE JSmooth (Kerley is younger Cotchary) so it is our biggest need.

I guess I am just a fool, cause I LOVE our RBs~! Ivory was a MONSTER running the ball, Powell is feeling himself & steadily improving. (No clue bout goodson cause he has been ninja, but least he is cheap)

I wouldnt MIND gettin a RT & LG...
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Posted 05 January 2014 - 09:52 PM

eric ebron te. from unc. is good at pic 18.

Sammy Watkins wr. may be gone.

mike evans wr. and marquise lee wr. may be available but the te at 18 may be the better value because of the depth at wr. in the draft.

also lee's health may be an issue and evans is a loose cannon at times, but both are talented.
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 11:53 AM

View PostChaos, on 02 January 2014 - 05:03 PM, said:

I'm with SHJ on going with best pick available. The FO doesn't need to force any picks. The team can do with upgrades everywhere aside from the d-line.

Agree with SHJ as well. Bad teams draft by position. Good ones take the best available player. With our cap space so good, we should sign our own players who we want to retain (Howard, Folk, Colon, maybe Pace), extend Wilkerson, and use the balance to buy position players we don't get in the draft. Sure would love to buy Jarius Byrd or Grimes/Talib. And we need a guard badly.

Only issue would be if the best on our board when our turn comes is a defensive lineman in which case we look to trade down and if that fails, then and only then possibly skip to the next player on the list who isn't on the defensive line.

Kelvin Benjamin from Fla. St. would be a good addition if Evans and Watkins are off by the time we draft but Ebron, the TE would be huge for us. He is potentially another Vernon Davis.
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 07:01 PM

View Postchocomag, on 07 January 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

Agree with SHJ as well. Bad teams draft by position. Good ones take the best available player. With our cap space so good, we should sign our own players who we want to retain (Howard, Folk, Colon, maybe Pace), extend Wilkerson, and use the balance to buy position players we don't get in the draft. Sure would love to buy Jarius Byrd or Grimes/Talib. And we need a guard badly.

Only issue would be if the best on our board when our turn comes is a defensive lineman in which case we look to trade down and if that fails, then and only then possibly skip to the next player on the list who isn't on the defensive line.

Kelvin Benjamin from Fla. St. would be a good addition if Evans and Watkins are off by the time we draft but Ebron, the TE would be huge for us. He is potentially another Vernon Davis.


Kelvin Benjamin**, WR, Florida State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 234.
Projected 40 Time: 4.55.

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Eric Ebron*, TE, North Carolina
Height: 6-4. Weight: 245.
Projected 40 Time: 4.65.

I m taking Kelvin Benjamin over Ebron because Benjamin has created matchup problems all year versus the opposing team's corners and safteies ( Watch BCS Game), Red zone security blanket for Winston (Imagine what Geno can do throwing the ball to Benjamin?), Runs consistently good routes, great at catching the football at its high point, Benjamin would be a great compliment to Kerley and David Nelson and has been under the radar due to the large amount of talent at WR in this year's draft.
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:14 PM

Sammy Watkins, no matter the cost, period.



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 05:22 PM

Benjamin didnt look good in the nc game. I'm intrigued by ebron with signing a wr in fa and taking one round 2 possibly.
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Posted 08 January 2014 - 07:28 PM

So we take Johnny Football if he is there? I watched his highlight s on YouTube and I just don't know if he will be as effective in the NFL. Didn't he also have some really poor choices last year?
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 04:50 PM

I'm not sold one bit on Geno and i know we won't be drafting his replacement so we need the best free agent QB we can get our hands on... I can't take 1 TD & 20 int's again...
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 05:03 PM

View Postmgjetman, on 09 January 2014 - 04:50 PM, said:

I'm not sold one bit on Geno and i know we won't be drafting his replacement so we need the best free agent QB we can get our hands on... I can't take 1 TD & 20 int's again...


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 01:23 PM

View PostTebow15, on 07 January 2014 - 09:14 PM, said:

Sammy Watkins, no matter the cost, period.


We won't have any shot at Watkins. He will go in the top 7. As usual, we won the games we were better off losing. But with the 18th pick we have no shot at Manziel or Bortles who would have been my first choice. We should be able to choose from Evans, Ebron, Amaro, Benjamin, Lee. I like the TE route because there are so many WR's this year and we can also buy one in free agency.

We do need a CB, G, OLB, S. We may be able to get 2 of them in free agency if we have $40 million to start with. If we come out with a WR, G and CB in free agency and we can draft a WR, TE, OLB and S we might just surprise teams next year.

That is if Geno can improve his play dramatically which I'm dubious about.
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Posted 14 January 2014 - 01:52 PM

View Postchocomag, on 14 January 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

As usual, we won the games we were better off losing.


What's the point of playing for the draft? A team predicted to win 3 games won 8 and had a solid chance at the playoffs going into the bye. Compete in every game during the season and go BPA during the draft.
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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:19 PM

View Postchocomag, on 14 January 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

We won't have any shot at Watkins. He will go in the top 7. As usual, we won the games we were better off losing. But with the 18th pick we have no shot at Manziel or Bortles who would have been my first choice. We should be able to choose from Evans, Ebron, Amaro, Benjamin, Lee. I like the TE route because there are so many WR's this year and we can also buy one in free agency.

We do need a CB, G, OLB, S. We may be able to get 2 of them in free agency if we have $40 million to start with. If we come out with a WR, G and CB in free agency and we can draft a WR, TE, OLB and S we might just surprise teams next year.

That is if Geno can improve his play dramatically which I'm dubious about.


I am going to try to be nice here . . . If you go back and read my post, you will see that I put "no matter the cost." that was my acknowledging the obvious that Sammy Watkins will go well before 18 and we will need to trade up. Sorry if that phrase wasn't a clear indication of my intentions.

As for Manziel, he isn't a NFL qb. He runs in circles, NFL defenders are too fast for that, and chucks it up in the middle of the field, a cardinal sin for qbs, but he gets away with it because its college and he has 6'5" receivers all over. those are his "highlight plays." He won't do that in the NFL and even if he shows flashes of brilliance, the best he can hope for is a Mike Vick Career where he has one or two flashy years and then the hits accumulate and he cant stay healthy. He is NOT an NFL qb.

As far as drafting a qb in the first round, why? Forget anything to do with Geno Smith for a second and tell me who this rookie 1st rounder would be throwing to? We need weapons, desperately! Kerely is a playmaker in the slot, but when that's all you have it's not hard to take away. Nelson is nice on 3rd downs and red zone but we need a consistent playmaker that can get open and scare D coordinators. RB is solid. Our o-line is fine, they had a whole year to gell and one was a rookie, and our run game isn't bad at all. But none of that matters when other teams stack the box and can play 1-1 coverage without worrying about a thing. We need someone who can move the ball and make plays, hence suggestion to trade up for Sammy Watkins. If Mr. A & M WR fell to 18 that would be great, but even with the depth at wr this year I don't want to take a chance. Watkins has been a beast since his freshman year. Get the guy that runs great routes, has great hands, and can make plays in numerous ways. get him the ball in some way, and he will make the play. That is EXACTLY what we need. Sign a guy like Jeremy Maclin in free agency to compliment that, and we might have something.

But a 1st round pick on a TE would ALMOST be a waste. We need someone on the outsides. Unless we signed two major guys I'd prefer to get a promising outside guy before a TE.
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