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S-Dubb Icon : (29 January 2016 - 10:18 AM) what up home dawgs?
S-Dubb Icon : (29 January 2016 - 10:22 AM) long time no chat, Ya boy has returned from the depths. Good to see everyone alive and well. Another season down the drain... what else is new? Fitz coming back next yr means we wont be going to the superbowl. We seriously need to land a QB. I hope Petty is the future and Im still quietly waiting for Geno to show up. IF they retain him it would speak volumes
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 January 2016 - 11:23 AM) I'm done with Geno. Never really expected much from him from the beginning. So I'm also looking for Petty to be the future.
vjdbbq Icon : (29 January 2016 - 04:33 PM) GENO SUCKS MONKEY DICK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:16 PM) S-Dubb??.Who's that guy?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:17 PM) FIRE S-DUBB
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Dubb and Amen? Did I take a wrong turn and land back in 2007?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Haha good to see both of you
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:28 PM) I don't care if Cro comes back, I think Marcus Williams can start opposite Revis. Hes a ball hawk and has performed well everytime hes called on.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) I want Fitz back as starter, he lacks arm talent but he is scrappy
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) The team loves him as a leader and he is a good bridge QB as we groom a QB of the future.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He also has top notch pocket awareness.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He allows our playmakers to make plays. After years of terrible QB play, I'll take 31 TD 15 INTs almost 4,000 yards
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 February 2016 - 12:41 AM) I can't stop thinking about the off season...... what the hell are we gonna do!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Maccagnan is going to have to show his worth
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) They can't have Wilkerson on that franchise tag, they have to sign him long term with a small cap hit or trade him. Otherwise we are in trouble with other FAs.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) We need Harrison back, you can't run a effective 3-4 without a stud NT.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:01 AM) I hope we get Harrison back on a 4 yr contract.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:55 PM) I really think we are going to have to tag and trade Wilkerson
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) If we keep wilk we lose Harrison or Fitzpatrick maybe both
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) And ivory
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:23 PM) We can't keep Wilkerson, Richardson, and Williams. A move has to be made
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) If the Jets want to go cheaper, they can try to trade Wilkerson and have Richardson/Williams for cheap
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Then they can re-sign Harrison, FItzpatrick, Ivory, and maybe Powell.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Kaepernick apparently wants out of SF and wants to join the Jets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Guess he sees the Jets as a team with a great WR tandem and a quality OC who builds a offense around the players
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) No thanks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) Unless he's dirt cheap
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:30 AM) The jets would be fools to take on that contract
Jetsfan115 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 02:09 PM) keep powell, snakcs, wilkerson, and fitz. let ivory walk, trade richardson, cut cromartie, restructure brick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 04:18 PM) Marshall said no to Kaepnerick, he wants FItzpatrick as his QB
vjdbbq Icon : (04 February 2016 - 12:07 PM) Where's Rob ? I need some ass shots !!!!!
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:16 PM) its super bowl Sunday!!
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:47 PM) Everybody is at Rob's house ; checking out the asses !!!!!
Smedsthejet Icon : (07 February 2016 - 05:17 PM) Hope Cotchery gets a ring tonight
santana Icon : (07 February 2016 - 07:04 PM) Yeah I would rather see a panther win
santana Icon : (07 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Zzzz
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (07 February 2016 - 09:03 PM) I want to see Manning go out on top
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:03 PM) Jerricho got screwed on the call in the first quarter but he dropped a few later on .
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:04 PM) Screw Manning and his chicken parm .
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:29 PM) We need a pass rushing LB!! Look at Denver.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:30 PM) Nothing against manning but he wasn't good at all this year and gives me hope that we can reach a super bowl with Fitzpatrick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:42 AM) Denver has two future HOF edge rushers with Miller and Ware.
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 02:45 PM

just wondering what you guys think the jets should do in the draft?

should they go all offense? or best player available even if it's defense?

trade up early? trade down for more pics?
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 04:04 PM

Trade down unless the brass thinks that Geno isn't the future. Go BPA regardless of position.
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 05:03 PM

I'm with SHJ on going with best pick available. The FO doesn't need to force any picks. The team can do with upgrades everywhere aside from the d-line.
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 06:54 PM

I think it depends on what we do in FA. If we sign a WR and a TE and keep our current guys then BPO. If we do not we need to go BPO offense.
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:00 PM

Draft BPA from 115's board please
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:19 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 02 January 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:

Draft BPA from 115's board please


stephen hills brother in the 1st, cousin in the 2nd, sister in the 3rd, and dad in the 4th.

but all kidding aside. draft a ton of offense, but throw in a CB and OLB somehwere
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:33 PM

that's funny 115. hey u never know s. hill could be a secret weapon at cb. he has the speed and corner's hands.
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Posted 05 January 2014 - 08:30 PM

View Postjet-man, on 02 January 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

that's funny 115. hey u never know s. hill could be a secret weapon at cb. he has the speed and corner's hands.


Well, thats a VIABLE option, cause he hasnt shown any growth in 2 years as WR. Honestly, would LOVE to see if he COULD make that switch if he can be the elite WR we thought his size & speed would make him.

I think if we can get ELITE talent @WR, (& I HATE the thought of trading pics) I would be willing to make a move up but ONLY for a sure shot. I know nothing is guaranteed, but Austin...ya, the rams hosed us good getting in front of us for him. We do need speed rushing LB, Corner (even if cro returns to top flight play) cause we have too much uncertainty @ corner, other than that, my PRIORITY is WR! Holmes is to inconsistent, hurt, & NOT leadership material Ditch his ass, LOVE JSmooth (Kerley is younger Cotchary) so it is our biggest need.

I guess I am just a fool, cause I LOVE our RBs~! Ivory was a MONSTER running the ball, Powell is feeling himself & steadily improving. (No clue bout goodson cause he has been ninja, but least he is cheap)

I wouldnt MIND gettin a RT & LG...
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Posted 05 January 2014 - 09:52 PM

eric ebron te. from unc. is good at pic 18.

Sammy Watkins wr. may be gone.

mike evans wr. and marquise lee wr. may be available but the te at 18 may be the better value because of the depth at wr. in the draft.

also lee's health may be an issue and evans is a loose cannon at times, but both are talented.
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 11:53 AM

View PostChaos, on 02 January 2014 - 05:03 PM, said:

I'm with SHJ on going with best pick available. The FO doesn't need to force any picks. The team can do with upgrades everywhere aside from the d-line.

Agree with SHJ as well. Bad teams draft by position. Good ones take the best available player. With our cap space so good, we should sign our own players who we want to retain (Howard, Folk, Colon, maybe Pace), extend Wilkerson, and use the balance to buy position players we don't get in the draft. Sure would love to buy Jarius Byrd or Grimes/Talib. And we need a guard badly.

Only issue would be if the best on our board when our turn comes is a defensive lineman in which case we look to trade down and if that fails, then and only then possibly skip to the next player on the list who isn't on the defensive line.

Kelvin Benjamin from Fla. St. would be a good addition if Evans and Watkins are off by the time we draft but Ebron, the TE would be huge for us. He is potentially another Vernon Davis.
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 07:01 PM

View Postchocomag, on 07 January 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

Agree with SHJ as well. Bad teams draft by position. Good ones take the best available player. With our cap space so good, we should sign our own players who we want to retain (Howard, Folk, Colon, maybe Pace), extend Wilkerson, and use the balance to buy position players we don't get in the draft. Sure would love to buy Jarius Byrd or Grimes/Talib. And we need a guard badly.

Only issue would be if the best on our board when our turn comes is a defensive lineman in which case we look to trade down and if that fails, then and only then possibly skip to the next player on the list who isn't on the defensive line.

Kelvin Benjamin from Fla. St. would be a good addition if Evans and Watkins are off by the time we draft but Ebron, the TE would be huge for us. He is potentially another Vernon Davis.


Kelvin Benjamin**, WR, Florida State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 234.
Projected 40 Time: 4.55.

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Eric Ebron*, TE, North Carolina
Height: 6-4. Weight: 245.
Projected 40 Time: 4.65.

I m taking Kelvin Benjamin over Ebron because Benjamin has created matchup problems all year versus the opposing team's corners and safteies ( Watch BCS Game), Red zone security blanket for Winston (Imagine what Geno can do throwing the ball to Benjamin?), Runs consistently good routes, great at catching the football at its high point, Benjamin would be a great compliment to Kerley and David Nelson and has been under the radar due to the large amount of talent at WR in this year's draft.
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:14 PM

Sammy Watkins, no matter the cost, period.



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 05:22 PM

Benjamin didnt look good in the nc game. I'm intrigued by ebron with signing a wr in fa and taking one round 2 possibly.
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Posted 08 January 2014 - 07:28 PM

So we take Johnny Football if he is there? I watched his highlight s on YouTube and I just don't know if he will be as effective in the NFL. Didn't he also have some really poor choices last year?
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 04:50 PM

I'm not sold one bit on Geno and i know we won't be drafting his replacement so we need the best free agent QB we can get our hands on... I can't take 1 TD & 20 int's again...
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 05:03 PM

View Postmgjetman, on 09 January 2014 - 04:50 PM, said:

I'm not sold one bit on Geno and i know we won't be drafting his replacement so we need the best free agent QB we can get our hands on... I can't take 1 TD & 20 int's again...


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 01:23 PM

View PostTebow15, on 07 January 2014 - 09:14 PM, said:

Sammy Watkins, no matter the cost, period.


We won't have any shot at Watkins. He will go in the top 7. As usual, we won the games we were better off losing. But with the 18th pick we have no shot at Manziel or Bortles who would have been my first choice. We should be able to choose from Evans, Ebron, Amaro, Benjamin, Lee. I like the TE route because there are so many WR's this year and we can also buy one in free agency.

We do need a CB, G, OLB, S. We may be able to get 2 of them in free agency if we have $40 million to start with. If we come out with a WR, G and CB in free agency and we can draft a WR, TE, OLB and S we might just surprise teams next year.

That is if Geno can improve his play dramatically which I'm dubious about.
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Posted 14 January 2014 - 01:52 PM

View Postchocomag, on 14 January 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

As usual, we won the games we were better off losing.


What's the point of playing for the draft? A team predicted to win 3 games won 8 and had a solid chance at the playoffs going into the bye. Compete in every game during the season and go BPA during the draft.
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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:19 PM

View Postchocomag, on 14 January 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

We won't have any shot at Watkins. He will go in the top 7. As usual, we won the games we were better off losing. But with the 18th pick we have no shot at Manziel or Bortles who would have been my first choice. We should be able to choose from Evans, Ebron, Amaro, Benjamin, Lee. I like the TE route because there are so many WR's this year and we can also buy one in free agency.

We do need a CB, G, OLB, S. We may be able to get 2 of them in free agency if we have $40 million to start with. If we come out with a WR, G and CB in free agency and we can draft a WR, TE, OLB and S we might just surprise teams next year.

That is if Geno can improve his play dramatically which I'm dubious about.


I am going to try to be nice here . . . If you go back and read my post, you will see that I put "no matter the cost." that was my acknowledging the obvious that Sammy Watkins will go well before 18 and we will need to trade up. Sorry if that phrase wasn't a clear indication of my intentions.

As for Manziel, he isn't a NFL qb. He runs in circles, NFL defenders are too fast for that, and chucks it up in the middle of the field, a cardinal sin for qbs, but he gets away with it because its college and he has 6'5" receivers all over. those are his "highlight plays." He won't do that in the NFL and even if he shows flashes of brilliance, the best he can hope for is a Mike Vick Career where he has one or two flashy years and then the hits accumulate and he cant stay healthy. He is NOT an NFL qb.

As far as drafting a qb in the first round, why? Forget anything to do with Geno Smith for a second and tell me who this rookie 1st rounder would be throwing to? We need weapons, desperately! Kerely is a playmaker in the slot, but when that's all you have it's not hard to take away. Nelson is nice on 3rd downs and red zone but we need a consistent playmaker that can get open and scare D coordinators. RB is solid. Our o-line is fine, they had a whole year to gell and one was a rookie, and our run game isn't bad at all. But none of that matters when other teams stack the box and can play 1-1 coverage without worrying about a thing. We need someone who can move the ball and make plays, hence suggestion to trade up for Sammy Watkins. If Mr. A & M WR fell to 18 that would be great, but even with the depth at wr this year I don't want to take a chance. Watkins has been a beast since his freshman year. Get the guy that runs great routes, has great hands, and can make plays in numerous ways. get him the ball in some way, and he will make the play. That is EXACTLY what we need. Sign a guy like Jeremy Maclin in free agency to compliment that, and we might have something.

But a 1st round pick on a TE would ALMOST be a waste. We need someone on the outsides. Unless we signed two major guys I'd prefer to get a promising outside guy before a TE.
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