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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 02:45 PM

just wondering what you guys think the jets should do in the draft?

should they go all offense? or best player available even if it's defense?

trade up early? trade down for more pics?
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 04:04 PM

Trade down unless the brass thinks that Geno isn't the future. Go BPA regardless of position.
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 05:03 PM

I'm with SHJ on going with best pick available. The FO doesn't need to force any picks. The team can do with upgrades everywhere aside from the d-line.
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 06:54 PM

I think it depends on what we do in FA. If we sign a WR and a TE and keep our current guys then BPO. If we do not we need to go BPO offense.
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:00 PM

Draft BPA from 115's board please
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:19 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 02 January 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:

Draft BPA from 115's board please


stephen hills brother in the 1st, cousin in the 2nd, sister in the 3rd, and dad in the 4th.

but all kidding aside. draft a ton of offense, but throw in a CB and OLB somehwere
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Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:33 PM

that's funny 115. hey u never know s. hill could be a secret weapon at cb. he has the speed and corner's hands.
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Posted 05 January 2014 - 08:30 PM

View Postjet-man, on 02 January 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

that's funny 115. hey u never know s. hill could be a secret weapon at cb. he has the speed and corner's hands.


Well, thats a VIABLE option, cause he hasnt shown any growth in 2 years as WR. Honestly, would LOVE to see if he COULD make that switch if he can be the elite WR we thought his size & speed would make him.

I think if we can get ELITE talent @WR, (& I HATE the thought of trading pics) I would be willing to make a move up but ONLY for a sure shot. I know nothing is guaranteed, but Austin...ya, the rams hosed us good getting in front of us for him. We do need speed rushing LB, Corner (even if cro returns to top flight play) cause we have too much uncertainty @ corner, other than that, my PRIORITY is WR! Holmes is to inconsistent, hurt, & NOT leadership material Ditch his ass, LOVE JSmooth (Kerley is younger Cotchary) so it is our biggest need.

I guess I am just a fool, cause I LOVE our RBs~! Ivory was a MONSTER running the ball, Powell is feeling himself & steadily improving. (No clue bout goodson cause he has been ninja, but least he is cheap)

I wouldnt MIND gettin a RT & LG...
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Posted 05 January 2014 - 09:52 PM

eric ebron te. from unc. is good at pic 18.

Sammy Watkins wr. may be gone.

mike evans wr. and marquise lee wr. may be available but the te at 18 may be the better value because of the depth at wr. in the draft.

also lee's health may be an issue and evans is a loose cannon at times, but both are talented.
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 11:53 AM

View PostChaos, on 02 January 2014 - 05:03 PM, said:

I'm with SHJ on going with best pick available. The FO doesn't need to force any picks. The team can do with upgrades everywhere aside from the d-line.

Agree with SHJ as well. Bad teams draft by position. Good ones take the best available player. With our cap space so good, we should sign our own players who we want to retain (Howard, Folk, Colon, maybe Pace), extend Wilkerson, and use the balance to buy position players we don't get in the draft. Sure would love to buy Jarius Byrd or Grimes/Talib. And we need a guard badly.

Only issue would be if the best on our board when our turn comes is a defensive lineman in which case we look to trade down and if that fails, then and only then possibly skip to the next player on the list who isn't on the defensive line.

Kelvin Benjamin from Fla. St. would be a good addition if Evans and Watkins are off by the time we draft but Ebron, the TE would be huge for us. He is potentially another Vernon Davis.
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 07:01 PM

View Postchocomag, on 07 January 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

Agree with SHJ as well. Bad teams draft by position. Good ones take the best available player. With our cap space so good, we should sign our own players who we want to retain (Howard, Folk, Colon, maybe Pace), extend Wilkerson, and use the balance to buy position players we don't get in the draft. Sure would love to buy Jarius Byrd or Grimes/Talib. And we need a guard badly.

Only issue would be if the best on our board when our turn comes is a defensive lineman in which case we look to trade down and if that fails, then and only then possibly skip to the next player on the list who isn't on the defensive line.

Kelvin Benjamin from Fla. St. would be a good addition if Evans and Watkins are off by the time we draft but Ebron, the TE would be huge for us. He is potentially another Vernon Davis.


Kelvin Benjamin**, WR, Florida State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 234.
Projected 40 Time: 4.55.

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Eric Ebron*, TE, North Carolina
Height: 6-4. Weight: 245.
Projected 40 Time: 4.65.

I m taking Kelvin Benjamin over Ebron because Benjamin has created matchup problems all year versus the opposing team's corners and safteies ( Watch BCS Game), Red zone security blanket for Winston (Imagine what Geno can do throwing the ball to Benjamin?), Runs consistently good routes, great at catching the football at its high point, Benjamin would be a great compliment to Kerley and David Nelson and has been under the radar due to the large amount of talent at WR in this year's draft.
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:14 PM

Sammy Watkins, no matter the cost, period.



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 05:22 PM

Benjamin didnt look good in the nc game. I'm intrigued by ebron with signing a wr in fa and taking one round 2 possibly.
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Posted 08 January 2014 - 07:28 PM

So we take Johnny Football if he is there? I watched his highlight s on YouTube and I just don't know if he will be as effective in the NFL. Didn't he also have some really poor choices last year?
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 04:50 PM

I'm not sold one bit on Geno and i know we won't be drafting his replacement so we need the best free agent QB we can get our hands on... I can't take 1 TD & 20 int's again...
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 05:03 PM

View Postmgjetman, on 09 January 2014 - 04:50 PM, said:

I'm not sold one bit on Geno and i know we won't be drafting his replacement so we need the best free agent QB we can get our hands on... I can't take 1 TD & 20 int's again...


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 01:23 PM

View PostTebow15, on 07 January 2014 - 09:14 PM, said:

Sammy Watkins, no matter the cost, period.


We won't have any shot at Watkins. He will go in the top 7. As usual, we won the games we were better off losing. But with the 18th pick we have no shot at Manziel or Bortles who would have been my first choice. We should be able to choose from Evans, Ebron, Amaro, Benjamin, Lee. I like the TE route because there are so many WR's this year and we can also buy one in free agency.

We do need a CB, G, OLB, S. We may be able to get 2 of them in free agency if we have $40 million to start with. If we come out with a WR, G and CB in free agency and we can draft a WR, TE, OLB and S we might just surprise teams next year.

That is if Geno can improve his play dramatically which I'm dubious about.
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Posted 14 January 2014 - 01:52 PM

View Postchocomag, on 14 January 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

As usual, we won the games we were better off losing.


What's the point of playing for the draft? A team predicted to win 3 games won 8 and had a solid chance at the playoffs going into the bye. Compete in every game during the season and go BPA during the draft.
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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:19 PM

View Postchocomag, on 14 January 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

We won't have any shot at Watkins. He will go in the top 7. As usual, we won the games we were better off losing. But with the 18th pick we have no shot at Manziel or Bortles who would have been my first choice. We should be able to choose from Evans, Ebron, Amaro, Benjamin, Lee. I like the TE route because there are so many WR's this year and we can also buy one in free agency.

We do need a CB, G, OLB, S. We may be able to get 2 of them in free agency if we have $40 million to start with. If we come out with a WR, G and CB in free agency and we can draft a WR, TE, OLB and S we might just surprise teams next year.

That is if Geno can improve his play dramatically which I'm dubious about.


I am going to try to be nice here . . . If you go back and read my post, you will see that I put "no matter the cost." that was my acknowledging the obvious that Sammy Watkins will go well before 18 and we will need to trade up. Sorry if that phrase wasn't a clear indication of my intentions.

As for Manziel, he isn't a NFL qb. He runs in circles, NFL defenders are too fast for that, and chucks it up in the middle of the field, a cardinal sin for qbs, but he gets away with it because its college and he has 6'5" receivers all over. those are his "highlight plays." He won't do that in the NFL and even if he shows flashes of brilliance, the best he can hope for is a Mike Vick Career where he has one or two flashy years and then the hits accumulate and he cant stay healthy. He is NOT an NFL qb.

As far as drafting a qb in the first round, why? Forget anything to do with Geno Smith for a second and tell me who this rookie 1st rounder would be throwing to? We need weapons, desperately! Kerely is a playmaker in the slot, but when that's all you have it's not hard to take away. Nelson is nice on 3rd downs and red zone but we need a consistent playmaker that can get open and scare D coordinators. RB is solid. Our o-line is fine, they had a whole year to gell and one was a rookie, and our run game isn't bad at all. But none of that matters when other teams stack the box and can play 1-1 coverage without worrying about a thing. We need someone who can move the ball and make plays, hence suggestion to trade up for Sammy Watkins. If Mr. A & M WR fell to 18 that would be great, but even with the depth at wr this year I don't want to take a chance. Watkins has been a beast since his freshman year. Get the guy that runs great routes, has great hands, and can make plays in numerous ways. get him the ball in some way, and he will make the play. That is EXACTLY what we need. Sign a guy like Jeremy Maclin in free agency to compliment that, and we might have something.

But a 1st round pick on a TE would ALMOST be a waste. We need someone on the outsides. Unless we signed two major guys I'd prefer to get a promising outside guy before a TE.
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