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Jets win 3-1. Beat dolphins so bad that philbin isnt allowed back from england.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:37 PM) the interior pressure we'll bring is going to be crazy
ganggreen2003 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:37 PM) and if he's in game shape
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:37 PM) Or Use Rich and Williams in the middle and put Wilk and Coples on the Ends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:38 PM) Richardson won't be suspended this season from that
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:40 PM) This D-line reminds me of the 2011 Giants who used JPP and Tuck on the inside and Osi and Kiwanuka on the ends
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:41 PM) 4 10 sack players at 1 points in their careers and no o-line could stop them all
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:41 PM) I think this D-line will be so much better
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:43 PM) The thing that is scary is that we also have a great secondary
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:44 PM) Exactly
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:44 PM) All of our additions in the secondary look great. Darrelle Revis changes secondaries
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:44 PM) Buster Skrine has been a beast at nickel
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:45 PM) Take a sack or throw it up
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:45 PM) Marcus Gilchrist has been making plays in coverage at FS.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:45 PM) The Island!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:45 PM) Never should have let him go
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:45 PM) We could have just taken Rich at 9
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:46 PM) but o well he is back now
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:46 PM) You got to think Revis has also never had this much talent around him
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:48 PM) all 3 of our wins we pretty much dominated in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:48 PM) Our defense has allowed the leagues best 13 PPG
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:49 PM) We beat us against Philly
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:50 PM) 4 turnovers and a Punt return TD
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:58 PM) If fitz can be smart with the ball and Marshall Decker and Ivory and stay healthy I think we can beat anyone
santana Icon : (05 October 2015 - 02:36 PM) http://www.sun-senti...1005-story.html
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:16 PM) I get it to a point why everyone is making a big deal about that missed call because difference between a win and a loss but I have never seen that call made in over 30 years of watching NFL so I guarantee that none of the fans , coaches or players new the rule. Yes the refs should know all the rules but they aren't computers and it's impossible for them to remember all the 1000's of rules. Especially an old rule no one but the officials ever heard of before. 22 new officials didn't help either. It took an old long time official now retired from officiating to tell the world the rule. Everyone and the officials will remember that rule from now on after all the media
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:27 PM) Lions fans are b*tching like hell about it. We would be if it happened to us but I think it's a bad rule any way and should be scrapped. If the defense causes the offensive player to fumble in the end zone because the defense makes a good play I personally think it would be bullshit to give the fumbling team the ball back. If the ball went out of bounds on its own or if a player tried to recover it and the ball went out of the end zone it's not a penalty. Both cases are a touchback so I feel that giving the ball back to the offense that fumbled it because of the defense batting the ball out of the end zone if the offense recovered the ball it would be a td so it would be bullshit to give them the ball back because of a simple ball bat. Rule should really be changed
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:30 PM) It's ok for the offense to deliberately take a safety to prevent a TD and only give up 2 points an benefit themselves so yeah I think it is an old out of date rule that should be thrown out. If the d makes a great play they shouldn't have to give the offense the ball back because of a stupid rule
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:30 PM) So I'm glad it wasn't called
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:31 PM) Hope it's changed next year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:31 PM) it's been called a ton of times, they showed a montage o ESPN last night of a bunch of times it's been called
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:33 PM) just because one player made a great play, doesn't mean you can excuse someone making a bonehead play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:34 PM) chancellor made a great play (remember when i wanted the jets to draft him?) but the LBer should have not illegally batted it, he could have tried to recover it or body blocked det from recovering.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:34 PM) Not sure what ESPN you had on ESPN China? I left ESPN on for 2 hours after the game and I never seen this montage you say. I'm calling you out as bullshit. Show me a video of proof
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:38 PM) Even the old ESPN official couldn't remember an instance of it being called. It isn't the same as the offense backing out of the end zone with the ball or being sacked in the end zone for a safety. Completely different rule and situation. I've never seen it called and I watch at least 6 games at a time a week. None of the ESPN announcer players, Ray Lewis, Dilfer, or Young even knew the rule and that's over 20 years of NFL experience. Yet none of them knew or understood the rule until it was explained in detail
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:40 PM) I've never once seen the ball given back to to offense so I challenge you to show me this montage you claim was on. If I didn't see it for two hours I after the game I'm calling bullshit on your end
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:43 PM) Say whatever you want but show me proof or just leave it be because I won't believe you without a bunch of video proof. I have a hell of a memory and if it ever was called maybe once or twice in the past 30 years but no way there is some montage
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:48 PM) Nether coach knew the rule either and they would know more of the rules than the players and fans. If not for a retired official bringing it up it probably would've never even been brought up at all
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:58 PM) I highly questionable is on now and they are even saying no one knew the rule or complained until they were told the rule.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 04:05 PM) I have seen plenty of games where defenders did knock the ball out of the end zone like the situation last night to prevent any possible touchdown not disputing that because that has happened a good many times. My point is I've never seen a flag thrown for it and the ball given to the offense. It's definitely an obsolete rule that should be thrown out. The NFL has made the rules so offensive friendly these days it's hard to play defense with out calls anymore. That is just one more bullshit rule to help the offense. Take the Jets Dolphins game for instance. Those bullshit pi calls against our defense for clearly uncatchable balls. Pi never should've never been called giving up like 60 yards on two calls and a td that never would've happened. At most they should've been 5 yard holding calls. Never would've been mad if they just called them holding calls.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 04:06 PM) Anyway I'm tired of all these offense friendly rules these days screwing over the defenses. It's starting to get like non touch flag football for the defenses.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 04:11 PM) You know it too. Our team has been a defensive team for well over a decade and so many bullshit calls have been called against our defense because of the new offensive friendly rules. So I say screw Detroit. I'm glad it wasn't called and a defense gets a break
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:37 PM) call em a liar if you want, but I seen it man
santana Icon : (Today, 12:52 AM) guess I should enable a character limit for the shoutbox
santana Icon : (Today, 12:53 AM) getting a bit out of hand
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:30 AM) Rob you're brutal
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Posted 15 February 2014 - 12:49 AM


NFL Report: Incognito and Two Others Harassed Martin

By Tracy Connor, NBC News

The NFL's independent investigation into Jonathan Martin's claims that he was bullied has found that three Miami Dolphins starters — Richie Incognito, John Jerry and Mike Pouncey — "engaged in a pattern of harassment" that included vile racial and anti-gay slurs.

The 144-page report by lawyer Ted Wells, which was released Friday, said the harassment was directed at Martin, another unnnamed Dolphins offensive lineman and an assistant trainer.

The Japanese-born trainer was the target of "racial slurs and other racially derogatory language," Wells said. Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey allegedly once donned "rising sun" headbands and threatened to hurt him to avenge the attack on Pearl Harbor.

"The other offensive lineman was subjected to homophobic name-calling and improper physical touching," Wells continued.

"Martin was taunted on a persistent basis with sexually explicit remarks about his sister and his mother and at times ridiculed with racial insults and other offensive comments.” The report details Incognito, who is white, calling Martin, who is black, the N-word in a text and in person.

Incognito's lawyer said the report was "replete with errors" and there is no evidence that Martin's mental health or athletic performance was impacted by his teammates.

"It is disappointing that Mr. Wells would have gotten it so wrong, but not surprising. The truth, as reported by the Dolphins players and as shown by the evidence, is that Jonathan Martin was never bullied by Richie Incognito or any member of the Dolphins Offensive line," attorney Mark Schamel said in a statement.

Wells wrote that the harassment did contribute to Martin's decision to bolt from the Dolphins in the middle of his second season. But he said it does not appear the veterans — Incognito and Jerry joined the team in 2010, Pouncey in 2011 — were trying to drive him off or cause serious emotional distress.

Yet Wells said text messages that Martin sent to his parents and others — months before he walked off the team Oct. 28 and checked into a hospital for psychological treatment — corroborate his story that he was tormented by how he was treated.

The report, which is full of crude text messages, says that Martin and Incognito had an "odd but seemingly close friendship" marked by two-way "vulgar" communication.

"Martin was taunted on a persistent basis with sexually explicit remarks about his sister and his mother and at times ridiculed with racial insults and other offensive comments."

Martin was especially sensitive to insults because he had been bullied in high school, and he contemplated suicide twice last year, the report says.

"To be candid, we struggled with how to evaluate Martin’s claims of harassment given his mental health issues, his possible heightened sensitivity to insults and his unusual, 'bipolar' friendship with Incognito," the report said.

"Nonetheless, we ultimately concluded that Martin was indeed harassed by Incognito, who can fairly be described as the main instigator, and by Jerry and Pouncey, who tended to follow Incognito’s lead."

Among the evidence: an entry in a notebook the offensive linemen kept to record each other's infractions and fines; Incognito fined himself $200 for "breaking JMart" and later asked teammates to destroy the book.

The other player who was harassed endured constant homophobic teasing that was not restricted to his teammates, the reporter said. When offensive line coach Jim Turner gave all his players inflatable female dolls as gag gifts in Christmas 2012, the "quiet and unassuming" young man got a male doll.

The report also faulted Turner for sending Martin text messages exhorting him to "do the right thing" and defend Incognito after word of the bullying leaked out in the fall.

However, Wells concluded there was no evidence the Dolphins' front office knew about the alleged abuse.

Text messages between Incognito and Pouncey showed they were furious with Martin after he left the team.

"Snitches get stitches," Incognito wrote. "Blood in blood out F------guy."

Pouncey's reply: "He’s dead to me."

The NFL Players Association said it was reviewing the report.

In a statement, team owner Stephen Ross called the language and behavior that the report said was directed at Martin "deeply disturbing."

"I told Ted Wells personally during my visit with him that we are committed to addressing the issues outlined in this report," Ross said. "We must work together towards a culture of civility and mutual respect for one another. ... I have made it clear to everyone within our organization that this situation must never happen again."

The report was released just two days after Incognito went on a Twitter rant against Martin, apologizing for rude language but insisting he was a "loyal friend and good teammate."

Dear Jon Martin..... The truth is going to bury you and your entire “camp”. You could have told the truth the entire time.
- Richie Incognito (@68INCOGNITO) February 12, 2014

FACT: Jonathan Martin told me he thought about taking his own life in MAY 2013 b/c he wasn't playing well. Told me he felt worthless.
— Richie Incognito (@68INCOGNITO) February 12, 2014

First published February 14th 2014, 11:40 am

Why am I not surprised that Pouncey was one of the tormentors?

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 06:31 PM

I've been in a similar situation in high school and I walked because I didn't want to catch a case. sometimes walking away is all u can do. I knew the coach

had to know what was happening before I even tried to join the team, so I knew there wouldn't be any intervention. this childish culture was in place and all I

wanted to do was play football. this story is all too similar as normal locker room antics, but like I said I wouldn't be here talking about it if I didn't

walk away.

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