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SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
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ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 12:56 PM

New York Jets: C- Grade
You can't exactly call this a successful offseason for the Jets. Rex Ryan wanted to bring back Darrelle Revis, but arch rival New England stole him away. Ryan then wanted Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Antonio Cromartie, yet New York whiffed on both and now has nothing at corner. Meanwhile, the front office added a No. 1 receiver for Geno Smith. Except Eric Decker is not a No. 1 option. He was a product of Peyton Manning, so he won't be nearly as effective in his new home.

Free agency wasn't a total disaster though. The Jets brought back Willie colon cheaply and inked Breno Giacomini to a reasonable deal. Of course, Giacomini is a downgrade from Austin Howard, who was yet another player to get away from Ryan.

UPDATE: The signing of Philadelphia's former quarterback drops this to a C-. He will fire yet another coach (Rex Ryan will be added to the extensive list of coaches he has canned) and will destroy the confidence of Geno Smith. Not that Smith had much hope in the first place, but the Jets wasted $5 million on this signing.

NFL Free Agent Grades:
Willie Colon, G, Jets (re-sign) - A-
Breno Giacomini, OT, Seahawks - B
Calvin Pace, DE/OLB, Jets (re-sign) - B
Jeff Cumberland, TE, Jets (re-sign) - B
Eric Decker, WR, Broncos - C
QBDK, QB, Eagles - D
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 01:21 PM

Sounds like someone hates Mike Vick.
Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
"It's like going from Alcatraz to Dorney Park."

It is better to destroy than create what is meaningless, so the picture will not be finished.
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 01:37 PM

Wow that doesn't sound objective at all. You sure you didn't write this 115?
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:15 PM

Who the f*** is Walter Football?
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:22 PM

he really does hate micheal vick, but outside of that, he's usually pretty spot on
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:24 PM

honestly I'm sure I could find a bunch of articles praising Jets FA and the Vick signing
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:35 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 25 March 2014 - 12:24 PM, said:

honestly I'm sure I could find a bunch of articles praising Jets FA and the Vick signing


I agree the vick signing is awesome. as i said. This guy hates vick so he's completely biased when it comes to anything vick related. but outside of that, I have to agree. We still don't have a number 1 WR, we lost out on all 3 CBs we targeted and now don't have a #1 CB either. O-line got downgraded and it was weak to begin with.
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 04:41 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 25 March 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

he really does hate micheal vick, but outside of that, he's usually pretty spot on


"usually"

What? Who is the dude
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 05:22 PM

Walter football doesn't know shit.


I think getting Eric Decker at the cost of what high end #2 WRs are getting was a great get, hes not getting #1 money. Hes a high end #2 at the very least.



Signing Vick was great, we needed a veteran QB and he knows our offense already and has played great in that offense. If Geno can't get it done he can sit his ass down and watch Vick play. (until he gets hurt)
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Posted 28 March 2014 - 09:27 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 25 March 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

New York Jets: C- Grade
You can't exactly call this a successful offseason for the Jets. Rex Ryan wanted to bring back Darrelle Revis, but arch rival New England stole him away. Ryan then wanted Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Antonio Cromartie, yet New York whiffed on both and now has nothing at corner. Meanwhile, the front office added a No. 1 receiver for Geno Smith. Except Eric Decker is not a No. 1 option. He was a product of Peyton Manning, so he won't be nearly as effective in his new home.

Free agency wasn't a total disaster though. The Jets brought back Willie colon cheaply and inked Breno Giacomini to a reasonable deal. Of course, Giacomini is a downgrade from Austin Howard, who was yet another player to get away from Ryan.

UPDATE: The signing of Philadelphia's former quarterback drops this to a C-. He will fire yet another coach (Rex Ryan will be added to the extensive list of coaches he has canned) and will destroy the confidence of Geno Smith. Not that Smith had much hope in the first place, but the Jets wasted $5 million on this signing.


NFL Free Agent Grades:
Willie Colon, G, Jets (re-sign) - A-
Breno Giacomini, OT, Seahawks - B
Calvin Pace, DE/OLB, Jets (re-sign) - B
Jeff Cumberland, TE, Jets (re-sign) - B
Eric Decker, WR, Broncos - C
QBDK, QB, Eagles - D

Walter Football clearly has a bias against Vick. There is no question Vick was the number 1 QB on the free agent market. And by signing him we can't lose in the sense that if Smith is the QB long term for this team he should be able to beat out Vick. If he can't then we know what we have with Smith and we will have a QB who can definitely play the game - as long as he stays healthy (big ?). Maybe Walter has a dog and that's it. I have one but I believe in second chances and Vick seems genuinely remorseful.

As for Decker, he refers to him as an overrated number 1 but we paid him as a number 2. By the way, Deckers numbers weren't bad with Tebow throwing to him either. And if we can land a true deep threat, he will be the perfect compliment to him. Very good signing.

Not sure who the better RT is as opinions vary, but we saved good money on the exchange.

Where Idzik did screw up is obviously on CB. Cromartie was pretty bad last year so upgrading that position was not hard to do and he blew it. But we may get lucky when it comes time to release players based on cap issues in June.

We need to try and get DeSean so we don't have to take a receiver in the first round and can take either one of the top CB's like Dennard or, if they are gone, a TE like Amaro. I know everyone loves Ebron but I think Amaro is the better TE for the Jets (check his numbers, size and attitude). Then take some CB's in later rounds. Sherman was a third round pick or maybe even lower. They do exist.
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