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Jetsfan115 Icon : (21 August 2015 - 03:05 PM) MT did for us
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 August 2015 - 06:49 PM) Well it's only pre season but I don't enjoy watching them walk right over our defense
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 August 2015 - 07:20 PM) Looks like nothing has changed from the last 5 years. Our offense is still trash
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 August 2015 - 07:50 PM) Damn petty has a rocket arm!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 August 2015 - 07:54 PM) Kellen Davis sucks
Mr_Jet Icon : (22 August 2015 - 12:40 PM) Bryce Petty looked really good last night.
azjetfan Icon : (22 August 2015 - 04:56 PM) He took some big steps from week one. There is no question. If he continues to progress like that we may be chanting for him sooner than expected. I love his arm.
azjetfan Icon : (22 August 2015 - 06:56 PM) Sanchez looks like Drew Bree's today
MikeGangGree... Icon : (25 August 2015 - 01:24 PM) WOOOOOOOO Ric Flair!
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 August 2015 - 01:45 PM) The guy in the fantasy league who said we're scared of Santana... is clearly santana.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 August 2015 - 01:45 PM) just sayin
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 August 2015 - 01:45 PM) im only half serious
santana Icon : (27 August 2015 - 09:30 AM) Also i suspect that santana
santana Icon : (27 August 2015 - 09:30 AM) might be santana
santana Icon : (27 August 2015 - 01:35 PM) Tough draw for Liverpool
Jetsman05 Icon : (27 August 2015 - 02:21 PM) Suarez second best in Europe... pretty good
SoReALSoJetS Icon : (29 August 2015 - 06:11 PM) anybody know a stream for it?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2015 - 06:49 AM) WOOOOO
Smedsthejet Icon : (30 August 2015 - 11:10 AM) Jets just announced first 12 players to be released:
Smedsthejet Icon : (30 August 2015 - 11:10 AM) T. J. Graham, Saalim Hakim, Austin Hill, DeVier Posey, Jonathon Rumph (WRs), Matt LaCosse (TE), James Brewer, Dalton Freeman (OL), Bryan Johnson (LB), Javier Arenas, Curtis Brown, Keith Lewis (DBs)
Smedsthejet Icon : (30 August 2015 - 11:11 AM) A little surprised that Posey is gone in this first batch of moves, but then we did have a glut of WRs
ganggreen2003 Icon : (30 August 2015 - 07:50 PM) Any word on Leonard Williams injury?
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2015 - 11:49 PM) He will be ready week 1. Just a sprain
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 10:33 AM) so we whooped the giants ass pretty badly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 10:38 AM) bills cut fred jackson
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 12:29 PM) We got lucky with Williams
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 12:30 PM) Hes looked like a beast as well, so we need him healthy. Hes gonna be a future all pro
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 12:31 PM) Our offense can be competent this season
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 12:33 PM) Zac Stacy was a good add
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:46 PM) I'm surprised Freeman was cut, I thought he was a solid backup center. Guess they like Wesley Johnson better
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:58 PM) our offense is passable. we should put up 14-17 a game average
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:58 PM) should be enough for our Defense. our d-line is nasty with wilk, rich, snacks, and now williams
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:59 PM) out MLBs get picked on in coverage though. davis had a rough game
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:59 PM) our Cbs are way too good. cro revis and skrine. plus mcdougle looked solid. when milliner comes back, him being a dime back could be huge too
Jetsman05 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 02:24 PM) 17 points a game is "passable"? If we average 17 a game this season, we won't win more than 5 ball games.
Jetsman05 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 02:24 PM) Needs to be 20+
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 05:33 PM) Our offense should be better than its been in years
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 05:34 PM) which wouldn't take much
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:03 PM) another ex jet going to the pats http://theredzone.or...ms/Default.aspx
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:04 PM) our defense should allow an average of less then 14 a game IMO. If we can average 17 a agme I think we can win 9-10
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:25 PM) Jace Amaro was put on IR, torn labrum.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:26 PM) That sucks, I was looking forward to him at TE
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:24 PM) Labrum tear....definitely out for the year. Its not a bad surgery. I used the sling for about a week before I ditched it completely. Supposed to use it for a full 6 weeks. You can get away without it but just have to be careful not raising or moving your arm much and no lifting of pretty much anything. As far as fully healing ....6 mon ths minimum but for lifting heavy and full contact sports I wouldnt trust 6 months
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:31 PM) Still not that bad of a surgery on a pain scale. after a few days it mostly just aches like hell. ice and keeping your arm still is important. sleeping is major hard for the first 3 weeks or so. You wake up in pain a god bit. Id be dreaming and jerk my right arm up or move it wrong or lay on it wrong and wake up in major pain. still I liked t better without the sling than being completely immobile with one arm and healed just fine. He will come back from it fine
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:37 PM) sucks we lost Amaro for the season
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 12:56 PM

New York Jets: C- Grade
You can't exactly call this a successful offseason for the Jets. Rex Ryan wanted to bring back Darrelle Revis, but arch rival New England stole him away. Ryan then wanted Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Antonio Cromartie, yet New York whiffed on both and now has nothing at corner. Meanwhile, the front office added a No. 1 receiver for Geno Smith. Except Eric Decker is not a No. 1 option. He was a product of Peyton Manning, so he won't be nearly as effective in his new home.

Free agency wasn't a total disaster though. The Jets brought back Willie colon cheaply and inked Breno Giacomini to a reasonable deal. Of course, Giacomini is a downgrade from Austin Howard, who was yet another player to get away from Ryan.

UPDATE: The signing of Philadelphia's former quarterback drops this to a C-. He will fire yet another coach (Rex Ryan will be added to the extensive list of coaches he has canned) and will destroy the confidence of Geno Smith. Not that Smith had much hope in the first place, but the Jets wasted $5 million on this signing.

NFL Free Agent Grades:
Willie Colon, G, Jets (re-sign) - A-
Breno Giacomini, OT, Seahawks - B
Calvin Pace, DE/OLB, Jets (re-sign) - B
Jeff Cumberland, TE, Jets (re-sign) - B
Eric Decker, WR, Broncos - C
QBDK, QB, Eagles - D
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 01:21 PM

Sounds like someone hates Mike Vick.
Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
"It's like going from Alcatraz to Dorney Park."

It is better to destroy than create what is meaningless, so the picture will not be finished.
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 01:37 PM

Wow that doesn't sound objective at all. You sure you didn't write this 115?
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:15 PM

Who the f*** is Walter Football?
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:22 PM

he really does hate micheal vick, but outside of that, he's usually pretty spot on
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:24 PM

honestly I'm sure I could find a bunch of articles praising Jets FA and the Vick signing
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:35 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 25 March 2014 - 12:24 PM, said:

honestly I'm sure I could find a bunch of articles praising Jets FA and the Vick signing


I agree the vick signing is awesome. as i said. This guy hates vick so he's completely biased when it comes to anything vick related. but outside of that, I have to agree. We still don't have a number 1 WR, we lost out on all 3 CBs we targeted and now don't have a #1 CB either. O-line got downgraded and it was weak to begin with.
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 04:41 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 25 March 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

he really does hate micheal vick, but outside of that, he's usually pretty spot on


"usually"

What? Who is the dude
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 05:22 PM

Walter football doesn't know shit.


I think getting Eric Decker at the cost of what high end #2 WRs are getting was a great get, hes not getting #1 money. Hes a high end #2 at the very least.



Signing Vick was great, we needed a veteran QB and he knows our offense already and has played great in that offense. If Geno can't get it done he can sit his ass down and watch Vick play. (until he gets hurt)
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Posted 28 March 2014 - 09:27 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 25 March 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

New York Jets: C- Grade
You can't exactly call this a successful offseason for the Jets. Rex Ryan wanted to bring back Darrelle Revis, but arch rival New England stole him away. Ryan then wanted Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Antonio Cromartie, yet New York whiffed on both and now has nothing at corner. Meanwhile, the front office added a No. 1 receiver for Geno Smith. Except Eric Decker is not a No. 1 option. He was a product of Peyton Manning, so he won't be nearly as effective in his new home.

Free agency wasn't a total disaster though. The Jets brought back Willie colon cheaply and inked Breno Giacomini to a reasonable deal. Of course, Giacomini is a downgrade from Austin Howard, who was yet another player to get away from Ryan.

UPDATE: The signing of Philadelphia's former quarterback drops this to a C-. He will fire yet another coach (Rex Ryan will be added to the extensive list of coaches he has canned) and will destroy the confidence of Geno Smith. Not that Smith had much hope in the first place, but the Jets wasted $5 million on this signing.


NFL Free Agent Grades:
Willie Colon, G, Jets (re-sign) - A-
Breno Giacomini, OT, Seahawks - B
Calvin Pace, DE/OLB, Jets (re-sign) - B
Jeff Cumberland, TE, Jets (re-sign) - B
Eric Decker, WR, Broncos - C
QBDK, QB, Eagles - D

Walter Football clearly has a bias against Vick. There is no question Vick was the number 1 QB on the free agent market. And by signing him we can't lose in the sense that if Smith is the QB long term for this team he should be able to beat out Vick. If he can't then we know what we have with Smith and we will have a QB who can definitely play the game - as long as he stays healthy (big ?). Maybe Walter has a dog and that's it. I have one but I believe in second chances and Vick seems genuinely remorseful.

As for Decker, he refers to him as an overrated number 1 but we paid him as a number 2. By the way, Deckers numbers weren't bad with Tebow throwing to him either. And if we can land a true deep threat, he will be the perfect compliment to him. Very good signing.

Not sure who the better RT is as opinions vary, but we saved good money on the exchange.

Where Idzik did screw up is obviously on CB. Cromartie was pretty bad last year so upgrading that position was not hard to do and he blew it. But we may get lucky when it comes time to release players based on cap issues in June.

We need to try and get DeSean so we don't have to take a receiver in the first round and can take either one of the top CB's like Dennard or, if they are gone, a TE like Amaro. I know everyone loves Ebron but I think Amaro is the better TE for the Jets (check his numbers, size and attitude). Then take some CB's in later rounds. Sherman was a third round pick or maybe even lower. They do exist.
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