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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:27 AM

So with all the top Wrs gone. Whats left for us?

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1. DeSean Jackson (signed with redskins)
2. Eric Decker (Signed five-year, $36.25M deal with NYJ)
3. Jeremy Maclin (Re-signed one-year, $5.5M deal with PHI)
4. Hakeem Nicks (Signed one-year, $3.975M deal with IND)
5. Julian Edelman (Re-signed four-year, $17M deal with NE)
6. Golden Tate (Signed five-year, $31M deal with DET)
7. Anquan Boldin (Re-signed two-year, $12M deal with SF)

8. Steve Smith (Signed three-year, $11M deal with BAL)

9. Santonio Holmes

10. James Jones (Signed three-year, $11.3M deal with OAK)
11. Andre Roberts (Signed four-year, $16M deal with WAS)
12. Emmanuel Sanders (Signed three-year, $15M deal with DEN)
13. Riley Cooper (Re-signed five-year, $25M deal with PHI)

14. Sidney Rice
15. Jacoby Jones (Re-signed four-year, $12M deal with BAL)
16. Dexter McCluster (Signed three-year, $9M deal with TEN)
17. Brandon LaFell (Signed three-year, $11M deal with NE)
18. Kenny Britt
19. Miles Austin
20. Damian Williams
21. Jerricho Cotchery (Signed five-year, $8.015M deal with CAR)
22. Ted Ginn (Signed three-year, $9.75M deal with ARZ)

23. Danario Alexander

24. Lance Moore (Signed two-year deal with PIT)
25. Jerome Simpson (Re-signed one-year deal with MIN)
26. Jacoby Ford
27. Robert Meachem
28. Earl Bennett
29. Austin Collie

30. Jason Avant

31. Joe Morgan (Re-signed one-year deal with NO)
32. Andre Caldwell (Re-signed two-year, $3.45M deal with DEN)
33. Santana Moss (Re-signed one-year deal with WAS)
34. Marc Mariani (Re-signed one-year deal with TEN)
35. Josh Morgan

36. Nate Burleson
37. Mario Manningham (Signed one-year deal with NYG)
38. Darrius Heyward-Bey
39. Domenik Hixon (Signed one-year deal with CHI)
40. Tiquan Underwood (Signed two-year, $2.5M deal with CAR)
41. Devin Hester (Signed three-year deal with ATL)
42. Lavelle Hawkins
43. Dezmon Briscoe
44. Kevin Ogletree (Re-signed one-year, $795K deal with DET)
45. Louis Murphy (Signed one-year deal with TB)
46. Davone Bess
47. Josh Cribbs


So based off that list, here are our options

1) bring back holmes - he knows the offense, shouldn't be too expensive and would probably sign a 1 year deal at this point.

2) sidney rice - has talent, but hasn't produced for a few years. also has injury concerns

3) kenny britt - IMO not a good fit. Not that talented and a ton of headaches.

4) miles austin - same as rice

5) Denario alexander - had a great year for SD then got injured last year. could be a decent grab.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:04 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 10:27 AM, said:

So with all the top Wrs gone. Whats left for us?



So based off that list, here are our options

1) bring back holmes - he knows the offense, shouldn't be too expensive and would probably sign a 1 year deal at this point.

2) sidney rice - has talent, but hasn't produced for a few years. also has injury concerns

3) kenny britt - IMO not a good fit. Not that talented and a ton of headaches.

4) miles austin - same as rice

5) Denario alexander - had a great year for SD then got injured last year. could be a decent grab.

I believe Britt signed with The Rams yesterday. I also would put Holmes in the injury area. Signing what is left in FA would only reduce practice/Playing time for whomever we draft. Rice is the only guy who I would have any intrest in. Holmes is a diva.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:55 PM

Just to update that list:

Kenny Britt - 1 year deal with Rams
Darris Heyward-Bey - 1 year deal with Steelers
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:58 PM

Meh, I'd rather draft 2 WRs... One early and one in the mid rounds
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 01:39 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 April 2014 - 10:04 AM, said:

I believe Britt signed with The Rams yesterday. I also would put Holmes in the injury area. Signing what is left in FA would only reduce practice/Playing time for whomever we draft. Rice is the only guy who I would have any intrest in. Holmes is a diva.


yeah but rookie WRs in general don't do well. we should still draft one for the future, I just don't want to rely on one for this season. Alexander might be a good grab though https://www.youtube....h?v=M-xF6ol_aSU
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

yeah but rookie WRs in general don't do well. we should still draft one for the future, I just don't want to rely on one for this season. Alexander might be a good grab though https://www.youtube....h?v=M-xF6ol_aSU


I hate to break it to you but we are not winning the SB this year.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:20 PM

And by the the way Wayne still looks like he has a concussion
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:23 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 April 2014 - 12:18 PM, said:

I hate to break it to you but we are not winning the SB this year.


What does that have to do with anything? I'm well aware of that. Alexander is young and a big target and plays the ball very well in the air. He can easily be here for 3-4 years and will provide geno a target that fights for the ball. You want geno to get sanchez syndrome having nobody to throw to? as it stands geno is our future QB, you gotta give him targets not named david clowny to throw to if you get my drift. and yes i know he isn't on the team, i was referring to when we drafted sanchez and we had the shittiest group of WRs i've ever seen. chansi stucky? clowney? it was a joke. I don't want to see that happen to geno
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:27 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

What does that have to do with anything? I'm well aware of that. Alexander is young and a big target and plays the ball very well in the air. He can easily be here for 3-4 years and will provide geno a target that fights for the ball. You want geno to get sanchez syndrome having nobody to throw to? as it stands geno is our future QB, you gotta give him targets not named david clowny to throw to if you get my drift. and yes i know he isn't on the team, i was referring to when we drafted sanchez and we had the shittiest group of WRs i've ever seen. chansi stucky? clowney? it was a joke. I don't want to see that happen to geno

You said rookie WRs don't do well. I am saying they should play now and get the experience versus bringing in some hack.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 06:42 PM

We signed 2 WRs in FA, we don't need to sign another. We need to draft a WR high that can start right away. We did better than expected in FA at WR, since we got the best WR available.



Draft Odell Beckham or Brandin Cooks at 18.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:20 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 April 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

You said rookie WRs don't do well. I am saying they should play now and get the experience versus bringing in some hack.


Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 07:26 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete


No, I'm pretty sure FlyHi was the "biggets" issue last year...
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:10 AM

View Postsexyrexy, on 03 April 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:

No, I'm pretty sure FlyHi was the "biggets" issue last year...





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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:22 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete

The current roster has veterans. These guys are close to what is out there. Let's not under estimate what game time experience will do for our young guys. IMO Vick will be starting this year until around week 8 when he gets his egg scrambled for the 10th time. We are not in a win now mode. Idziks mentality will never be win now. He is not wired that way. He will build a team that can win for the long term.
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 01:35 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 03 April 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:

No, I'm pretty sure FlyHi was the "biggets" issue last year...



Nice. But I wasn't actually bigoted anywhere. I never said any racist or bigoted comments. My comments were anti-illegal alien. That's people from all races so while your comment is funny, it still fails.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 10:48 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 09:20 PM, said:

Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete

I know this will not be popular but if Bortles, Manziel or Bridgewater is available when we draft at 18 we should grab one. This game today is a QB game. One franchise QB is worth 10 years of playoffs. If anyone out there believes Geno is the guy then God Bless You. I don't say he isn't but for sure I don't have any confidence that he is. WR's are very very deep and we can get one in round 2. True, our TE situation sucks but maybe one can be gotten in later rounds. I would love Manziel or Bortles. I don't think they will be around but you never know. If not then Beckham or Cooks would be great but I would try and trade down and take Jace Amaro who I believe will be better than Ebron.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 12:02 PM

I don't like taking a QB with the first 2 picks. If those guys were in the 2012 draft they would not even be known by most. They are artificially inflated due to demand of the position. BTW I still say we are taking a CB in the first round.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 12:04 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 04 April 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

I don't like taking a QB with the first 2 picks. If those guys were in the 2012 draft they would not even be known by most. They are artificially inflated due to demand of the position. BTW I still say we are taking a CB in the first round.



I wouldn't complain if we got Jimmy Garoppolo
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Posted 06 April 2014 - 05:43 AM

Knew it was a 115 post since the recommendation is to bring Holmes back.

The idea that the game is QB or receiver driven is overrated. The game is still OLine and defense driven. The rules turn medium talent into bog producers. The loser teams are the ones still trying to overdraft "skill position" players while smart teams are taking the guys who overcome the rules and piecing in the rest.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 09:15 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 06 April 2014 - 05:43 AM, said:

Knew it was a 115 post since the recommendation is to bring Holmes back.

The idea that the game is QB or receiver driven is overrated. The game is still OLine and defense driven. The rules turn medium talent into bog producers. The loser teams are the ones still trying to overdraft "skill position" players while smart teams are taking the guys who overcome the rules and piecing in the rest.

That's an interesting thought process. I'll chew on that for a while.
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