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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:27 AM

So with all the top Wrs gone. Whats left for us?

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1. DeSean Jackson (signed with redskins)
2. Eric Decker (Signed five-year, $36.25M deal with NYJ)
3. Jeremy Maclin (Re-signed one-year, $5.5M deal with PHI)
4. Hakeem Nicks (Signed one-year, $3.975M deal with IND)
5. Julian Edelman (Re-signed four-year, $17M deal with NE)
6. Golden Tate (Signed five-year, $31M deal with DET)
7. Anquan Boldin (Re-signed two-year, $12M deal with SF)

8. Steve Smith (Signed three-year, $11M deal with BAL)

9. Santonio Holmes

10. James Jones (Signed three-year, $11.3M deal with OAK)
11. Andre Roberts (Signed four-year, $16M deal with WAS)
12. Emmanuel Sanders (Signed three-year, $15M deal with DEN)
13. Riley Cooper (Re-signed five-year, $25M deal with PHI)

14. Sidney Rice
15. Jacoby Jones (Re-signed four-year, $12M deal with BAL)
16. Dexter McCluster (Signed three-year, $9M deal with TEN)
17. Brandon LaFell (Signed three-year, $11M deal with NE)
18. Kenny Britt
19. Miles Austin
20. Damian Williams
21. Jerricho Cotchery (Signed five-year, $8.015M deal with CAR)
22. Ted Ginn (Signed three-year, $9.75M deal with ARZ)

23. Danario Alexander

24. Lance Moore (Signed two-year deal with PIT)
25. Jerome Simpson (Re-signed one-year deal with MIN)
26. Jacoby Ford
27. Robert Meachem
28. Earl Bennett
29. Austin Collie

30. Jason Avant

31. Joe Morgan (Re-signed one-year deal with NO)
32. Andre Caldwell (Re-signed two-year, $3.45M deal with DEN)
33. Santana Moss (Re-signed one-year deal with WAS)
34. Marc Mariani (Re-signed one-year deal with TEN)
35. Josh Morgan

36. Nate Burleson
37. Mario Manningham (Signed one-year deal with NYG)
38. Darrius Heyward-Bey
39. Domenik Hixon (Signed one-year deal with CHI)
40. Tiquan Underwood (Signed two-year, $2.5M deal with CAR)
41. Devin Hester (Signed three-year deal with ATL)
42. Lavelle Hawkins
43. Dezmon Briscoe
44. Kevin Ogletree (Re-signed one-year, $795K deal with DET)
45. Louis Murphy (Signed one-year deal with TB)
46. Davone Bess
47. Josh Cribbs


So based off that list, here are our options

1) bring back holmes - he knows the offense, shouldn't be too expensive and would probably sign a 1 year deal at this point.

2) sidney rice - has talent, but hasn't produced for a few years. also has injury concerns

3) kenny britt - IMO not a good fit. Not that talented and a ton of headaches.

4) miles austin - same as rice

5) Denario alexander - had a great year for SD then got injured last year. could be a decent grab.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:04 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 10:27 AM, said:

So with all the top Wrs gone. Whats left for us?



So based off that list, here are our options

1) bring back holmes - he knows the offense, shouldn't be too expensive and would probably sign a 1 year deal at this point.

2) sidney rice - has talent, but hasn't produced for a few years. also has injury concerns

3) kenny britt - IMO not a good fit. Not that talented and a ton of headaches.

4) miles austin - same as rice

5) Denario alexander - had a great year for SD then got injured last year. could be a decent grab.

I believe Britt signed with The Rams yesterday. I also would put Holmes in the injury area. Signing what is left in FA would only reduce practice/Playing time for whomever we draft. Rice is the only guy who I would have any intrest in. Holmes is a diva.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:55 PM

Just to update that list:

Kenny Britt - 1 year deal with Rams
Darris Heyward-Bey - 1 year deal with Steelers
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:58 PM

Meh, I'd rather draft 2 WRs... One early and one in the mid rounds
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 01:39 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 April 2014 - 10:04 AM, said:

I believe Britt signed with The Rams yesterday. I also would put Holmes in the injury area. Signing what is left in FA would only reduce practice/Playing time for whomever we draft. Rice is the only guy who I would have any intrest in. Holmes is a diva.


yeah but rookie WRs in general don't do well. we should still draft one for the future, I just don't want to rely on one for this season. Alexander might be a good grab though https://www.youtube....h?v=M-xF6ol_aSU
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

yeah but rookie WRs in general don't do well. we should still draft one for the future, I just don't want to rely on one for this season. Alexander might be a good grab though https://www.youtube....h?v=M-xF6ol_aSU


I hate to break it to you but we are not winning the SB this year.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:20 PM

And by the the way Wayne still looks like he has a concussion
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:23 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 April 2014 - 12:18 PM, said:

I hate to break it to you but we are not winning the SB this year.


What does that have to do with anything? I'm well aware of that. Alexander is young and a big target and plays the ball very well in the air. He can easily be here for 3-4 years and will provide geno a target that fights for the ball. You want geno to get sanchez syndrome having nobody to throw to? as it stands geno is our future QB, you gotta give him targets not named david clowny to throw to if you get my drift. and yes i know he isn't on the team, i was referring to when we drafted sanchez and we had the shittiest group of WRs i've ever seen. chansi stucky? clowney? it was a joke. I don't want to see that happen to geno
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:27 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

What does that have to do with anything? I'm well aware of that. Alexander is young and a big target and plays the ball very well in the air. He can easily be here for 3-4 years and will provide geno a target that fights for the ball. You want geno to get sanchez syndrome having nobody to throw to? as it stands geno is our future QB, you gotta give him targets not named david clowny to throw to if you get my drift. and yes i know he isn't on the team, i was referring to when we drafted sanchez and we had the shittiest group of WRs i've ever seen. chansi stucky? clowney? it was a joke. I don't want to see that happen to geno

You said rookie WRs don't do well. I am saying they should play now and get the experience versus bringing in some hack.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 06:42 PM

We signed 2 WRs in FA, we don't need to sign another. We need to draft a WR high that can start right away. We did better than expected in FA at WR, since we got the best WR available.



Draft Odell Beckham or Brandin Cooks at 18.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:20 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 April 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

You said rookie WRs don't do well. I am saying they should play now and get the experience versus bringing in some hack.


Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 07:26 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete


No, I'm pretty sure FlyHi was the "biggets" issue last year...
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:10 AM

View Postsexyrexy, on 03 April 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:

No, I'm pretty sure FlyHi was the "biggets" issue last year...





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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:22 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete

The current roster has veterans. These guys are close to what is out there. Let's not under estimate what game time experience will do for our young guys. IMO Vick will be starting this year until around week 8 when he gets his egg scrambled for the 10th time. We are not in a win now mode. Idziks mentality will never be win now. He is not wired that way. He will build a team that can win for the long term.
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 01:35 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 03 April 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:

No, I'm pretty sure FlyHi was the "biggets" issue last year...



Nice. But I wasn't actually bigoted anywhere. I never said any racist or bigoted comments. My comments were anti-illegal alien. That's people from all races so while your comment is funny, it still fails.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 10:48 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 09:20 PM, said:

Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete

I know this will not be popular but if Bortles, Manziel or Bridgewater is available when we draft at 18 we should grab one. This game today is a QB game. One franchise QB is worth 10 years of playoffs. If anyone out there believes Geno is the guy then God Bless You. I don't say he isn't but for sure I don't have any confidence that he is. WR's are very very deep and we can get one in round 2. True, our TE situation sucks but maybe one can be gotten in later rounds. I would love Manziel or Bortles. I don't think they will be around but you never know. If not then Beckham or Cooks would be great but I would try and trade down and take Jace Amaro who I believe will be better than Ebron.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 12:02 PM

I don't like taking a QB with the first 2 picks. If those guys were in the 2012 draft they would not even be known by most. They are artificially inflated due to demand of the position. BTW I still say we are taking a CB in the first round.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 12:04 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 04 April 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

I don't like taking a QB with the first 2 picks. If those guys were in the 2012 draft they would not even be known by most. They are artificially inflated due to demand of the position. BTW I still say we are taking a CB in the first round.



I wouldn't complain if we got Jimmy Garoppolo
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Posted 06 April 2014 - 05:43 AM

Knew it was a 115 post since the recommendation is to bring Holmes back.

The idea that the game is QB or receiver driven is overrated. The game is still OLine and defense driven. The rules turn medium talent into bog producers. The loser teams are the ones still trying to overdraft "skill position" players while smart teams are taking the guys who overcome the rules and piecing in the rest.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 09:15 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 06 April 2014 - 05:43 AM, said:

Knew it was a 115 post since the recommendation is to bring Holmes back.

The idea that the game is QB or receiver driven is overrated. The game is still OLine and defense driven. The rules turn medium talent into bog producers. The loser teams are the ones still trying to overdraft "skill position" players while smart teams are taking the guys who overcome the rules and piecing in the rest.

That's an interesting thought process. I'll chew on that for a while.
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