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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) the excuses, Hill is just a terrible football player. no debate, just a fact. guy is soft as shit as well
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 AM) right cause all our other WRs were lighting it up
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 07:04 PM) Hill is useless bro lol
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:05 PM) All I can say I streamed this game and if anyone thinks about recording it from NFL Network at 4pm Eastern Saturday.....DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:07 PM) This game was pure sh1t. Even though it was back up players the Jets got totally destroyed in this game. After seeing this game Im really worried about the Jets starting core because these backup guys looked like they shouldn't have even been on the field at all. I just hope the starters are 3000 times better than these guys that played in game 4
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:09 PM) The Jets got horse f*cked by the Eagles in this game.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:24 PM) we are hosed in the secondary
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:27 AM

So with all the top Wrs gone. Whats left for us?

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1. DeSean Jackson (signed with redskins)
2. Eric Decker (Signed five-year, $36.25M deal with NYJ)
3. Jeremy Maclin (Re-signed one-year, $5.5M deal with PHI)
4. Hakeem Nicks (Signed one-year, $3.975M deal with IND)
5. Julian Edelman (Re-signed four-year, $17M deal with NE)
6. Golden Tate (Signed five-year, $31M deal with DET)
7. Anquan Boldin (Re-signed two-year, $12M deal with SF)

8. Steve Smith (Signed three-year, $11M deal with BAL)

9. Santonio Holmes

10. James Jones (Signed three-year, $11.3M deal with OAK)
11. Andre Roberts (Signed four-year, $16M deal with WAS)
12. Emmanuel Sanders (Signed three-year, $15M deal with DEN)
13. Riley Cooper (Re-signed five-year, $25M deal with PHI)

14. Sidney Rice
15. Jacoby Jones (Re-signed four-year, $12M deal with BAL)
16. Dexter McCluster (Signed three-year, $9M deal with TEN)
17. Brandon LaFell (Signed three-year, $11M deal with NE)
18. Kenny Britt
19. Miles Austin
20. Damian Williams
21. Jerricho Cotchery (Signed five-year, $8.015M deal with CAR)
22. Ted Ginn (Signed three-year, $9.75M deal with ARZ)

23. Danario Alexander

24. Lance Moore (Signed two-year deal with PIT)
25. Jerome Simpson (Re-signed one-year deal with MIN)
26. Jacoby Ford
27. Robert Meachem
28. Earl Bennett
29. Austin Collie

30. Jason Avant

31. Joe Morgan (Re-signed one-year deal with NO)
32. Andre Caldwell (Re-signed two-year, $3.45M deal with DEN)
33. Santana Moss (Re-signed one-year deal with WAS)
34. Marc Mariani (Re-signed one-year deal with TEN)
35. Josh Morgan

36. Nate Burleson
37. Mario Manningham (Signed one-year deal with NYG)
38. Darrius Heyward-Bey
39. Domenik Hixon (Signed one-year deal with CHI)
40. Tiquan Underwood (Signed two-year, $2.5M deal with CAR)
41. Devin Hester (Signed three-year deal with ATL)
42. Lavelle Hawkins
43. Dezmon Briscoe
44. Kevin Ogletree (Re-signed one-year, $795K deal with DET)
45. Louis Murphy (Signed one-year deal with TB)
46. Davone Bess
47. Josh Cribbs


So based off that list, here are our options

1) bring back holmes - he knows the offense, shouldn't be too expensive and would probably sign a 1 year deal at this point.

2) sidney rice - has talent, but hasn't produced for a few years. also has injury concerns

3) kenny britt - IMO not a good fit. Not that talented and a ton of headaches.

4) miles austin - same as rice

5) Denario alexander - had a great year for SD then got injured last year. could be a decent grab.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:04 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 10:27 AM, said:

So with all the top Wrs gone. Whats left for us?



So based off that list, here are our options

1) bring back holmes - he knows the offense, shouldn't be too expensive and would probably sign a 1 year deal at this point.

2) sidney rice - has talent, but hasn't produced for a few years. also has injury concerns

3) kenny britt - IMO not a good fit. Not that talented and a ton of headaches.

4) miles austin - same as rice

5) Denario alexander - had a great year for SD then got injured last year. could be a decent grab.

I believe Britt signed with The Rams yesterday. I also would put Holmes in the injury area. Signing what is left in FA would only reduce practice/Playing time for whomever we draft. Rice is the only guy who I would have any intrest in. Holmes is a diva.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:55 PM

Just to update that list:

Kenny Britt - 1 year deal with Rams
Darris Heyward-Bey - 1 year deal with Steelers
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:58 PM

Meh, I'd rather draft 2 WRs... One early and one in the mid rounds
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 01:39 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 April 2014 - 10:04 AM, said:

I believe Britt signed with The Rams yesterday. I also would put Holmes in the injury area. Signing what is left in FA would only reduce practice/Playing time for whomever we draft. Rice is the only guy who I would have any intrest in. Holmes is a diva.


yeah but rookie WRs in general don't do well. we should still draft one for the future, I just don't want to rely on one for this season. Alexander might be a good grab though https://www.youtube....h?v=M-xF6ol_aSU
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

yeah but rookie WRs in general don't do well. we should still draft one for the future, I just don't want to rely on one for this season. Alexander might be a good grab though https://www.youtube....h?v=M-xF6ol_aSU


I hate to break it to you but we are not winning the SB this year.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:20 PM

And by the the way Wayne still looks like he has a concussion
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:23 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 April 2014 - 12:18 PM, said:

I hate to break it to you but we are not winning the SB this year.


What does that have to do with anything? I'm well aware of that. Alexander is young and a big target and plays the ball very well in the air. He can easily be here for 3-4 years and will provide geno a target that fights for the ball. You want geno to get sanchez syndrome having nobody to throw to? as it stands geno is our future QB, you gotta give him targets not named david clowny to throw to if you get my drift. and yes i know he isn't on the team, i was referring to when we drafted sanchez and we had the shittiest group of WRs i've ever seen. chansi stucky? clowney? it was a joke. I don't want to see that happen to geno
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:27 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

What does that have to do with anything? I'm well aware of that. Alexander is young and a big target and plays the ball very well in the air. He can easily be here for 3-4 years and will provide geno a target that fights for the ball. You want geno to get sanchez syndrome having nobody to throw to? as it stands geno is our future QB, you gotta give him targets not named david clowny to throw to if you get my drift. and yes i know he isn't on the team, i was referring to when we drafted sanchez and we had the shittiest group of WRs i've ever seen. chansi stucky? clowney? it was a joke. I don't want to see that happen to geno

You said rookie WRs don't do well. I am saying they should play now and get the experience versus bringing in some hack.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 06:42 PM

We signed 2 WRs in FA, we don't need to sign another. We need to draft a WR high that can start right away. We did better than expected in FA at WR, since we got the best WR available.



Draft Odell Beckham or Brandin Cooks at 18.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:20 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 April 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

You said rookie WRs don't do well. I am saying they should play now and get the experience versus bringing in some hack.


Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 07:26 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete


No, I'm pretty sure FlyHi was the "biggets" issue last year...
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:10 AM

View Postsexyrexy, on 03 April 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:

No, I'm pretty sure FlyHi was the "biggets" issue last year...





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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:22 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete

The current roster has veterans. These guys are close to what is out there. Let's not under estimate what game time experience will do for our young guys. IMO Vick will be starting this year until around week 8 when he gets his egg scrambled for the 10th time. We are not in a win now mode. Idziks mentality will never be win now. He is not wired that way. He will build a team that can win for the long term.
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 01:35 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 03 April 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:

No, I'm pretty sure FlyHi was the "biggets" issue last year...



Nice. But I wasn't actually bigoted anywhere. I never said any racist or bigoted comments. My comments were anti-illegal alien. That's people from all races so while your comment is funny, it still fails.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 10:48 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 09:20 PM, said:

Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete

I know this will not be popular but if Bortles, Manziel or Bridgewater is available when we draft at 18 we should grab one. This game today is a QB game. One franchise QB is worth 10 years of playoffs. If anyone out there believes Geno is the guy then God Bless You. I don't say he isn't but for sure I don't have any confidence that he is. WR's are very very deep and we can get one in round 2. True, our TE situation sucks but maybe one can be gotten in later rounds. I would love Manziel or Bortles. I don't think they will be around but you never know. If not then Beckham or Cooks would be great but I would try and trade down and take Jace Amaro who I believe will be better than Ebron.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 12:02 PM

I don't like taking a QB with the first 2 picks. If those guys were in the 2012 draft they would not even be known by most. They are artificially inflated due to demand of the position. BTW I still say we are taking a CB in the first round.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 12:04 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 04 April 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

I don't like taking a QB with the first 2 picks. If those guys were in the 2012 draft they would not even be known by most. They are artificially inflated due to demand of the position. BTW I still say we are taking a CB in the first round.



I wouldn't complain if we got Jimmy Garoppolo
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Posted 06 April 2014 - 05:43 AM

Knew it was a 115 post since the recommendation is to bring Holmes back.

The idea that the game is QB or receiver driven is overrated. The game is still OLine and defense driven. The rules turn medium talent into bog producers. The loser teams are the ones still trying to overdraft "skill position" players while smart teams are taking the guys who overcome the rules and piecing in the rest.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 09:15 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 06 April 2014 - 05:43 AM, said:

Knew it was a 115 post since the recommendation is to bring Holmes back.

The idea that the game is QB or receiver driven is overrated. The game is still OLine and defense driven. The rules turn medium talent into bog producers. The loser teams are the ones still trying to overdraft "skill position" players while smart teams are taking the guys who overcome the rules and piecing in the rest.

That's an interesting thought process. I'll chew on that for a while.
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