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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) Catch the f***ing ball nelson
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) David ha ha Nelson is a bum
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) why didn't they talk about Kyle Fuler when torched for 51 yards by Salas?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) Bullshit
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) f***
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) How the f*** is that not interference
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) That's flag 101 never looking back and pushing the WR
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) How is that not PI?
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) Never looked for the ball for a second
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) Fuck this game fuck the refs fuck this team fuck the season. I'm over this shit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) That's bullshit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:43 PM) On the bright side we get to play Detroit, San Diego, NE and denver in our next 4 games
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RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Until we get rid of geno smith we are going nowhere. Bottom line. Dude is more erratic than romo
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) I'm really not feeling Geno Smith.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Or any other QB in the league. Trade for Sanchez Now!
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) We'd be 3-0 with Sanchez
SokeSleezy Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Geno's needs to work on his accuracy,Stafford gonna kill us next week smh
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) People saying Sanchez sucks keep in mind he never had a chance to play in morningwegs system. He was held back by shottenheimer
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:47 PM) This team will never have a franchise QB. We can't draft them and when we sign or trade for them, they're past their primes.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
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XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
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RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:27 AM

So with all the top Wrs gone. Whats left for us?

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1. DeSean Jackson (signed with redskins)
2. Eric Decker (Signed five-year, $36.25M deal with NYJ)
3. Jeremy Maclin (Re-signed one-year, $5.5M deal with PHI)
4. Hakeem Nicks (Signed one-year, $3.975M deal with IND)
5. Julian Edelman (Re-signed four-year, $17M deal with NE)
6. Golden Tate (Signed five-year, $31M deal with DET)
7. Anquan Boldin (Re-signed two-year, $12M deal with SF)

8. Steve Smith (Signed three-year, $11M deal with BAL)

9. Santonio Holmes

10. James Jones (Signed three-year, $11.3M deal with OAK)
11. Andre Roberts (Signed four-year, $16M deal with WAS)
12. Emmanuel Sanders (Signed three-year, $15M deal with DEN)
13. Riley Cooper (Re-signed five-year, $25M deal with PHI)

14. Sidney Rice
15. Jacoby Jones (Re-signed four-year, $12M deal with BAL)
16. Dexter McCluster (Signed three-year, $9M deal with TEN)
17. Brandon LaFell (Signed three-year, $11M deal with NE)
18. Kenny Britt
19. Miles Austin
20. Damian Williams
21. Jerricho Cotchery (Signed five-year, $8.015M deal with CAR)
22. Ted Ginn (Signed three-year, $9.75M deal with ARZ)

23. Danario Alexander

24. Lance Moore (Signed two-year deal with PIT)
25. Jerome Simpson (Re-signed one-year deal with MIN)
26. Jacoby Ford
27. Robert Meachem
28. Earl Bennett
29. Austin Collie

30. Jason Avant

31. Joe Morgan (Re-signed one-year deal with NO)
32. Andre Caldwell (Re-signed two-year, $3.45M deal with DEN)
33. Santana Moss (Re-signed one-year deal with WAS)
34. Marc Mariani (Re-signed one-year deal with TEN)
35. Josh Morgan

36. Nate Burleson
37. Mario Manningham (Signed one-year deal with NYG)
38. Darrius Heyward-Bey
39. Domenik Hixon (Signed one-year deal with CHI)
40. Tiquan Underwood (Signed two-year, $2.5M deal with CAR)
41. Devin Hester (Signed three-year deal with ATL)
42. Lavelle Hawkins
43. Dezmon Briscoe
44. Kevin Ogletree (Re-signed one-year, $795K deal with DET)
45. Louis Murphy (Signed one-year deal with TB)
46. Davone Bess
47. Josh Cribbs


So based off that list, here are our options

1) bring back holmes - he knows the offense, shouldn't be too expensive and would probably sign a 1 year deal at this point.

2) sidney rice - has talent, but hasn't produced for a few years. also has injury concerns

3) kenny britt - IMO not a good fit. Not that talented and a ton of headaches.

4) miles austin - same as rice

5) Denario alexander - had a great year for SD then got injured last year. could be a decent grab.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:04 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 10:27 AM, said:

So with all the top Wrs gone. Whats left for us?



So based off that list, here are our options

1) bring back holmes - he knows the offense, shouldn't be too expensive and would probably sign a 1 year deal at this point.

2) sidney rice - has talent, but hasn't produced for a few years. also has injury concerns

3) kenny britt - IMO not a good fit. Not that talented and a ton of headaches.

4) miles austin - same as rice

5) Denario alexander - had a great year for SD then got injured last year. could be a decent grab.

I believe Britt signed with The Rams yesterday. I also would put Holmes in the injury area. Signing what is left in FA would only reduce practice/Playing time for whomever we draft. Rice is the only guy who I would have any intrest in. Holmes is a diva.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:55 PM

Just to update that list:

Kenny Britt - 1 year deal with Rams
Darris Heyward-Bey - 1 year deal with Steelers
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:58 PM

Meh, I'd rather draft 2 WRs... One early and one in the mid rounds
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 01:39 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 April 2014 - 10:04 AM, said:

I believe Britt signed with The Rams yesterday. I also would put Holmes in the injury area. Signing what is left in FA would only reduce practice/Playing time for whomever we draft. Rice is the only guy who I would have any intrest in. Holmes is a diva.


yeah but rookie WRs in general don't do well. we should still draft one for the future, I just don't want to rely on one for this season. Alexander might be a good grab though https://www.youtube....h?v=M-xF6ol_aSU
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

yeah but rookie WRs in general don't do well. we should still draft one for the future, I just don't want to rely on one for this season. Alexander might be a good grab though https://www.youtube....h?v=M-xF6ol_aSU


I hate to break it to you but we are not winning the SB this year.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:20 PM

And by the the way Wayne still looks like he has a concussion
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:23 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 April 2014 - 12:18 PM, said:

I hate to break it to you but we are not winning the SB this year.


What does that have to do with anything? I'm well aware of that. Alexander is young and a big target and plays the ball very well in the air. He can easily be here for 3-4 years and will provide geno a target that fights for the ball. You want geno to get sanchez syndrome having nobody to throw to? as it stands geno is our future QB, you gotta give him targets not named david clowny to throw to if you get my drift. and yes i know he isn't on the team, i was referring to when we drafted sanchez and we had the shittiest group of WRs i've ever seen. chansi stucky? clowney? it was a joke. I don't want to see that happen to geno
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:27 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

What does that have to do with anything? I'm well aware of that. Alexander is young and a big target and plays the ball very well in the air. He can easily be here for 3-4 years and will provide geno a target that fights for the ball. You want geno to get sanchez syndrome having nobody to throw to? as it stands geno is our future QB, you gotta give him targets not named david clowny to throw to if you get my drift. and yes i know he isn't on the team, i was referring to when we drafted sanchez and we had the shittiest group of WRs i've ever seen. chansi stucky? clowney? it was a joke. I don't want to see that happen to geno

You said rookie WRs don't do well. I am saying they should play now and get the experience versus bringing in some hack.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 06:42 PM

We signed 2 WRs in FA, we don't need to sign another. We need to draft a WR high that can start right away. We did better than expected in FA at WR, since we got the best WR available.



Draft Odell Beckham or Brandin Cooks at 18.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:20 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 April 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

You said rookie WRs don't do well. I am saying they should play now and get the experience versus bringing in some hack.


Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 07:26 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete


No, I'm pretty sure FlyHi was the "biggets" issue last year...
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:10 AM

View Postsexyrexy, on 03 April 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:

No, I'm pretty sure FlyHi was the "biggets" issue last year...





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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:22 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete

The current roster has veterans. These guys are close to what is out there. Let's not under estimate what game time experience will do for our young guys. IMO Vick will be starting this year until around week 8 when he gets his egg scrambled for the 10th time. We are not in a win now mode. Idziks mentality will never be win now. He is not wired that way. He will build a team that can win for the long term.
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 01:35 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 03 April 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:

No, I'm pretty sure FlyHi was the "biggets" issue last year...



Nice. But I wasn't actually bigoted anywhere. I never said any racist or bigoted comments. My comments were anti-illegal alien. That's people from all races so while your comment is funny, it still fails.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 10:48 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 02 April 2014 - 09:20 PM, said:

Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.

Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete

I know this will not be popular but if Bortles, Manziel or Bridgewater is available when we draft at 18 we should grab one. This game today is a QB game. One franchise QB is worth 10 years of playoffs. If anyone out there believes Geno is the guy then God Bless You. I don't say he isn't but for sure I don't have any confidence that he is. WR's are very very deep and we can get one in round 2. True, our TE situation sucks but maybe one can be gotten in later rounds. I would love Manziel or Bortles. I don't think they will be around but you never know. If not then Beckham or Cooks would be great but I would try and trade down and take Jace Amaro who I believe will be better than Ebron.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 12:02 PM

I don't like taking a QB with the first 2 picks. If those guys were in the 2012 draft they would not even be known by most. They are artificially inflated due to demand of the position. BTW I still say we are taking a CB in the first round.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 12:04 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 04 April 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

I don't like taking a QB with the first 2 picks. If those guys were in the 2012 draft they would not even be known by most. They are artificially inflated due to demand of the position. BTW I still say we are taking a CB in the first round.



I wouldn't complain if we got Jimmy Garoppolo
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Posted 06 April 2014 - 05:43 AM

Knew it was a 115 post since the recommendation is to bring Holmes back.

The idea that the game is QB or receiver driven is overrated. The game is still OLine and defense driven. The rules turn medium talent into bog producers. The loser teams are the ones still trying to overdraft "skill position" players while smart teams are taking the guys who overcome the rules and piecing in the rest.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 09:15 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 06 April 2014 - 05:43 AM, said:

Knew it was a 115 post since the recommendation is to bring Holmes back.

The idea that the game is QB or receiver driven is overrated. The game is still OLine and defense driven. The rules turn medium talent into bog producers. The loser teams are the ones still trying to overdraft "skill position" players while smart teams are taking the guys who overcome the rules and piecing in the rest.

That's an interesting thought process. I'll chew on that for a while.
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