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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:57 AM) GET RIVERS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Update: Chris Johnson Signs With Jets

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:14 AM

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@AdamSchefter: Former Titans RB Chris Johnson is visiting the Jets right now, per team sources who spotted him in the teams' training facility.

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:34 AM

You guys are fast
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 10:10 AM

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Free-agent running back Chris Johnson is visiting with the New York Jets on Tuesday, team sources told Adam Schefter of ESPN.

It marks Johnson's first visit since being cut April 4 by the Tennessee Titans.

Johnson, 29, is a three-time Pro Bowler who would add a legitimate speed threat to a Jets backfield that features the 222-pound Chris Ivory, who rushed for a career-high 833 yards last season.

The Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins and Atlanta Falcons also have expressed interest in Johnson, sources said.
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 01:12 PM

Apparently an announcement coming soon.
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 05:42 PM

And the announcement will be that they let cj leave the building without a contract because idzick didn't want to pony up the money or like the DRC meeting .where they only wanna offer him a one year prove it deal.I just have that gut feeling about the whole situation. seriously how long does it take to get someone to agree to terms on a contract. Which probably means the jets are being cheap or CJ is being to greedy.Or he'gonna weigh his options and see what other teams are willing to do.
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:24 PM

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Chris Johnsonís visit with #Jets today went well, from what it sounded like. Itís over now. Nothing final yet, other teams still circling

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 08:04 AM

View PostSackExchange71, on 15 April 2014 - 06:42 PM, said:

And the announcement will be that they let cj leave the building without a contract because idzick didn't want to pony up the money or like the DRC meeting .where they only wanna offer him a one year prove it deal.I just have that gut feeling about the whole situation. seriously how long does it take to get someone to agree to terms on a contract. Which probably means the jets are being cheap or CJ is being to greedy.Or he'gonna weigh his options and see what other teams are willing to do.


Why should the Jets overpay for a 28 year old RB with the draft 3 weeks away? If CJ wants too much money, he can wait for an offer or keep siting until training camp and hope some team picks him up then. There is no need to overpay for a RB when the Jets could grab a good back with one of their three 4th round picks. CJ can check the market all he wants but there is no one that is going to pay him starter money at this stage of his career.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 10:34 AM

Chris Johnson asking 2 Years/$10M, Jets want $3-4M per year
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:00 AM

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Chris Johnson asking 2 Years/$10M, Jets want $3-4M per year


we have way too much cap room to complain about 1 mil a year. just give him the 2 year 10 million and frontload it so he costs us almost nothing next year
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:10 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 16 April 2014 - 11:00 AM, said:

we have way too much cap room to complain about 1 mil a year. just give him the 2 year 10 million and frontload it so he costs us almost nothing next year

We have the cap room because we don't just give an extra million a year to 29 year old players
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:37 AM

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:51 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 16 April 2014 - 11:10 AM, said:

We have the cap room because we don't just give an extra million a year to 29 year old players


That's the point of front loading it, so it doesn't effect your cap next year. I really don't get what's the point of having cap room if you're not going to use it. its not like u can carry it into next year. If you don't want to pay the player then front load it and dump them the next year if you don't want him. u get the player and you still keep cap room for the next year.

meanwhile you can still get your 4th round running back and groom him if that's what you want for "sustainable success".
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 12:26 PM

View Posttriple3s, on 16 April 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

That's the point of front loading it, so it doesn't effect your cap next year. I really don't get what's the point of having cap room if you're not going to use it. its not like u can carry it into next year. If you don't want to pay the player then front load it and dump them the next year if you don't want him. u get the player and you still keep cap room for the next year.

meanwhile you can still get your 4th round running back and groom him if that's what you want for "sustainable success".


Why overpay when you don't need to? CJ does not have any other suitors. Just because he wants $5M a year and just because the Jets can accord to give him that, does not mean they should. It's a depressed market for RBs so there is no need to overpay for one.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 12:35 PM

View Posttriple3s, on 16 April 2014 - 11:51 AM, said:

That's the point of front loading it, so it doesn't effect your cap next year. I really don't get what's the point of having cap room if you're not going to use it. its not like u can carry it into next year. If you don't want to pay the player then front load it and dump them the next year if you don't want him. u get the player and you still keep cap room for the next year.

meanwhile you can still get your 4th round running back and groom him if that's what you want for "sustainable success".


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Also front loading a contract is a tricky and dangerous gamble. If CJ has a monster year he will say he earned that first year and then hold out for a new contract.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

And he is signed to a two year deal
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 02:26 PM

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@AdamSchefter: Former Titans RB Chris Johnson reached agreement with Jets on a two-year deal, per league sources.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:24 PM

FIRE IDZIK
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:26 PM

View PostChaos, on 16 April 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

Why overpay when you don't need to? CJ does not have any other suitors. Just because he wants $5M a year and just because the Jets can accord to give him that, does not mean they should. It's a depressed market for RBs so there is no need to overpay for one.


In free agency you invariably have to overpay though.

I quite like the signing - while he may be declining as a rusher, he gives us a dynamic receiving threat of the backfield that we need. Powell did a solid job last year catching the ball (as well as running it), but he doesn't have the potentially game changing burst of speed that Johnson possesses.

Since coming into the league he's never had less than 1,400 yards from scrimmage. I don't expect him to get that as a Jet seeing as his touches will decrease being in a 'RB by committee' with Ivory and Powell. He should fit well into Marty Mornhinweg's offense too - in Philly LeSean McCoy was featured heavily in the passing attack.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:40 PM

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:43 PM

View PostChaos, on 16 April 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Why overpay when you don't need to? CJ does not have any other suitors. Just because he wants $5M a year and just because the Jets can accord to give him that, does not mean they should. It's a depressed market for RBs so there is no need to overpay for one.


Because it doesn't hurt you. I think that's what you're missing. It's not like you're mortgaging your future. that's why its a short term deal. you front load it so you can get rid of it as early as even next year and still have the player for this year and compete. meanwhile you build through the draft and get the cheaper players.
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