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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Damn they got Shady
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:06 AM) #2 baby
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
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azjetfan Icon : (04 March 2015 - 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
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azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:31 PM) What does his contract look like? Offer a 7th conditional 6th if we do something if the $$s are right.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:37 PM) He is almost due 9.6 million this year and has 2 years left. He is defiantly better than Harvin although a little older @ 30
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:55 PM) I'd rather sign Maclin or Cobb and then draft a WR early
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:55 PM) I am not real big on Cobb. I think he is a poor mans Harvin. Living in WI I watch most Packer games. He does have talent and he is a good receiver but without Rogers he will not be very good.
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) i guess davis takes the MLB spot then pace on one side. who is on the other? barnes
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Update: Chris Johnson Signs With Jets

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:14 AM

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@AdamSchefter: Former Titans RB Chris Johnson is visiting the Jets right now, per team sources who spotted him in the teams' training facility.

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:34 AM

You guys are fast
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 10:10 AM

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Free-agent running back Chris Johnson is visiting with the New York Jets on Tuesday, team sources told Adam Schefter of ESPN.

It marks Johnson's first visit since being cut April 4 by the Tennessee Titans.

Johnson, 29, is a three-time Pro Bowler who would add a legitimate speed threat to a Jets backfield that features the 222-pound Chris Ivory, who rushed for a career-high 833 yards last season.

The Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins and Atlanta Falcons also have expressed interest in Johnson, sources said.
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 01:12 PM

Apparently an announcement coming soon.
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 05:42 PM

And the announcement will be that they let cj leave the building without a contract because idzick didn't want to pony up the money or like the DRC meeting .where they only wanna offer him a one year prove it deal.I just have that gut feeling about the whole situation. seriously how long does it take to get someone to agree to terms on a contract. Which probably means the jets are being cheap or CJ is being to greedy.Or he'gonna weigh his options and see what other teams are willing to do.
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:24 PM

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Chris Johnsonís visit with #Jets today went well, from what it sounded like. Itís over now. Nothing final yet, other teams still circling

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 08:04 AM

View PostSackExchange71, on 15 April 2014 - 06:42 PM, said:

And the announcement will be that they let cj leave the building without a contract because idzick didn't want to pony up the money or like the DRC meeting .where they only wanna offer him a one year prove it deal.I just have that gut feeling about the whole situation. seriously how long does it take to get someone to agree to terms on a contract. Which probably means the jets are being cheap or CJ is being to greedy.Or he'gonna weigh his options and see what other teams are willing to do.


Why should the Jets overpay for a 28 year old RB with the draft 3 weeks away? If CJ wants too much money, he can wait for an offer or keep siting until training camp and hope some team picks him up then. There is no need to overpay for a RB when the Jets could grab a good back with one of their three 4th round picks. CJ can check the market all he wants but there is no one that is going to pay him starter money at this stage of his career.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 10:34 AM

Chris Johnson asking 2 Years/$10M, Jets want $3-4M per year
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:00 AM

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Chris Johnson asking 2 Years/$10M, Jets want $3-4M per year


we have way too much cap room to complain about 1 mil a year. just give him the 2 year 10 million and frontload it so he costs us almost nothing next year
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:10 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 16 April 2014 - 11:00 AM, said:

we have way too much cap room to complain about 1 mil a year. just give him the 2 year 10 million and frontload it so he costs us almost nothing next year

We have the cap room because we don't just give an extra million a year to 29 year old players
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:37 AM

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:51 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 16 April 2014 - 11:10 AM, said:

We have the cap room because we don't just give an extra million a year to 29 year old players


That's the point of front loading it, so it doesn't effect your cap next year. I really don't get what's the point of having cap room if you're not going to use it. its not like u can carry it into next year. If you don't want to pay the player then front load it and dump them the next year if you don't want him. u get the player and you still keep cap room for the next year.

meanwhile you can still get your 4th round running back and groom him if that's what you want for "sustainable success".
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 12:26 PM

View Posttriple3s, on 16 April 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

That's the point of front loading it, so it doesn't effect your cap next year. I really don't get what's the point of having cap room if you're not going to use it. its not like u can carry it into next year. If you don't want to pay the player then front load it and dump them the next year if you don't want him. u get the player and you still keep cap room for the next year.

meanwhile you can still get your 4th round running back and groom him if that's what you want for "sustainable success".


Why overpay when you don't need to? CJ does not have any other suitors. Just because he wants $5M a year and just because the Jets can accord to give him that, does not mean they should. It's a depressed market for RBs so there is no need to overpay for one.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 12:35 PM

View Posttriple3s, on 16 April 2014 - 11:51 AM, said:

That's the point of front loading it, so it doesn't effect your cap next year. I really don't get what's the point of having cap room if you're not going to use it. its not like u can carry it into next year. If you don't want to pay the player then front load it and dump them the next year if you don't want him. u get the player and you still keep cap room for the next year.

meanwhile you can still get your 4th round running back and groom him if that's what you want for "sustainable success".


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Also front loading a contract is a tricky and dangerous gamble. If CJ has a monster year he will say he earned that first year and then hold out for a new contract.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

And he is signed to a two year deal
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 02:26 PM

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@AdamSchefter: Former Titans RB Chris Johnson is signing his two-year deal with the NY Jets today.

@AdamSchefter: Former Titans RB Chris Johnson reached agreement with Jets on a two-year deal, per league sources.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:24 PM

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:26 PM

View PostChaos, on 16 April 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

Why overpay when you don't need to? CJ does not have any other suitors. Just because he wants $5M a year and just because the Jets can accord to give him that, does not mean they should. It's a depressed market for RBs so there is no need to overpay for one.


In free agency you invariably have to overpay though.

I quite like the signing - while he may be declining as a rusher, he gives us a dynamic receiving threat of the backfield that we need. Powell did a solid job last year catching the ball (as well as running it), but he doesn't have the potentially game changing burst of speed that Johnson possesses.

Since coming into the league he's never had less than 1,400 yards from scrimmage. I don't expect him to get that as a Jet seeing as his touches will decrease being in a 'RB by committee' with Ivory and Powell. He should fit well into Marty Mornhinweg's offense too - in Philly LeSean McCoy was featured heavily in the passing attack.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:40 PM

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@ProFootballTalk: Per source, Chris Johnson's two-year deal has a base value of $8 million, with another $1 million available in incentives based on yardage.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:43 PM

View PostChaos, on 16 April 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Why overpay when you don't need to? CJ does not have any other suitors. Just because he wants $5M a year and just because the Jets can accord to give him that, does not mean they should. It's a depressed market for RBs so there is no need to overpay for one.


Because it doesn't hurt you. I think that's what you're missing. It's not like you're mortgaging your future. that's why its a short term deal. you front load it so you can get rid of it as early as even next year and still have the player for this year and compete. meanwhile you build through the draft and get the cheaper players.
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