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azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:23 AM) preseason or not, our offense hasn't looked competent in a while like it does this year. our rushing attack should be very good. Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory could be a dynamic duo
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Update: Chris Johnson Signs With Jets

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:14 AM

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@AdamSchefter: Former Titans RB Chris Johnson is visiting the Jets right now, per team sources who spotted him in the teams' training facility.

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:34 AM

You guys are fast
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 10:10 AM

Sources: Jets hosting free agent RB Chris Johnson
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Free-agent running back Chris Johnson is visiting with the New York Jets on Tuesday, team sources told Adam Schefter of ESPN.

It marks Johnson's first visit since being cut April 4 by the Tennessee Titans.

Johnson, 29, is a three-time Pro Bowler who would add a legitimate speed threat to a Jets backfield that features the 222-pound Chris Ivory, who rushed for a career-high 833 yards last season.

The Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins and Atlanta Falcons also have expressed interest in Johnson, sources said.
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 01:12 PM

Apparently an announcement coming soon.
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 05:42 PM

And the announcement will be that they let cj leave the building without a contract because idzick didn't want to pony up the money or like the DRC meeting .where they only wanna offer him a one year prove it deal.I just have that gut feeling about the whole situation. seriously how long does it take to get someone to agree to terms on a contract. Which probably means the jets are being cheap or CJ is being to greedy.Or he'gonna weigh his options and see what other teams are willing to do.
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:24 PM

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Chris Johnsonís visit with #Jets today went well, from what it sounded like. Itís over now. Nothing final yet, other teams still circling

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 08:04 AM

View PostSackExchange71, on 15 April 2014 - 06:42 PM, said:

And the announcement will be that they let cj leave the building without a contract because idzick didn't want to pony up the money or like the DRC meeting .where they only wanna offer him a one year prove it deal.I just have that gut feeling about the whole situation. seriously how long does it take to get someone to agree to terms on a contract. Which probably means the jets are being cheap or CJ is being to greedy.Or he'gonna weigh his options and see what other teams are willing to do.


Why should the Jets overpay for a 28 year old RB with the draft 3 weeks away? If CJ wants too much money, he can wait for an offer or keep siting until training camp and hope some team picks him up then. There is no need to overpay for a RB when the Jets could grab a good back with one of their three 4th round picks. CJ can check the market all he wants but there is no one that is going to pay him starter money at this stage of his career.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 10:34 AM

Chris Johnson asking 2 Years/$10M, Jets want $3-4M per year
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:00 AM

View Postsantana, on 16 April 2014 - 08:34 AM, said:

Chris Johnson asking 2 Years/$10M, Jets want $3-4M per year


we have way too much cap room to complain about 1 mil a year. just give him the 2 year 10 million and frontload it so he costs us almost nothing next year
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:10 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 16 April 2014 - 11:00 AM, said:

we have way too much cap room to complain about 1 mil a year. just give him the 2 year 10 million and frontload it so he costs us almost nothing next year

We have the cap room because we don't just give an extra million a year to 29 year old players
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:37 AM

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:51 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 16 April 2014 - 11:10 AM, said:

We have the cap room because we don't just give an extra million a year to 29 year old players


That's the point of front loading it, so it doesn't effect your cap next year. I really don't get what's the point of having cap room if you're not going to use it. its not like u can carry it into next year. If you don't want to pay the player then front load it and dump them the next year if you don't want him. u get the player and you still keep cap room for the next year.

meanwhile you can still get your 4th round running back and groom him if that's what you want for "sustainable success".
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 12:26 PM

View Posttriple3s, on 16 April 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

That's the point of front loading it, so it doesn't effect your cap next year. I really don't get what's the point of having cap room if you're not going to use it. its not like u can carry it into next year. If you don't want to pay the player then front load it and dump them the next year if you don't want him. u get the player and you still keep cap room for the next year.

meanwhile you can still get your 4th round running back and groom him if that's what you want for "sustainable success".


Why overpay when you don't need to? CJ does not have any other suitors. Just because he wants $5M a year and just because the Jets can accord to give him that, does not mean they should. It's a depressed market for RBs so there is no need to overpay for one.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 12:35 PM

View Posttriple3s, on 16 April 2014 - 11:51 AM, said:

That's the point of front loading it, so it doesn't effect your cap next year. I really don't get what's the point of having cap room if you're not going to use it. its not like u can carry it into next year. If you don't want to pay the player then front load it and dump them the next year if you don't want him. u get the player and you still keep cap room for the next year.

meanwhile you can still get your 4th round running back and groom him if that's what you want for "sustainable success".


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Also front loading a contract is a tricky and dangerous gamble. If CJ has a monster year he will say he earned that first year and then hold out for a new contract.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

And he is signed to a two year deal
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 02:26 PM

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@AdamSchefter: Former Titans RB Chris Johnson is signing his two-year deal with the NY Jets today.

@AdamSchefter: Former Titans RB Chris Johnson reached agreement with Jets on a two-year deal, per league sources.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:24 PM

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:26 PM

View PostChaos, on 16 April 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

Why overpay when you don't need to? CJ does not have any other suitors. Just because he wants $5M a year and just because the Jets can accord to give him that, does not mean they should. It's a depressed market for RBs so there is no need to overpay for one.


In free agency you invariably have to overpay though.

I quite like the signing - while he may be declining as a rusher, he gives us a dynamic receiving threat of the backfield that we need. Powell did a solid job last year catching the ball (as well as running it), but he doesn't have the potentially game changing burst of speed that Johnson possesses.

Since coming into the league he's never had less than 1,400 yards from scrimmage. I don't expect him to get that as a Jet seeing as his touches will decrease being in a 'RB by committee' with Ivory and Powell. He should fit well into Marty Mornhinweg's offense too - in Philly LeSean McCoy was featured heavily in the passing attack.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:40 PM

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@ProFootballTalk: Per source, Chris Johnson's two-year deal has a base value of $8 million, with another $1 million available in incentives based on yardage.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:43 PM

View PostChaos, on 16 April 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Why overpay when you don't need to? CJ does not have any other suitors. Just because he wants $5M a year and just because the Jets can accord to give him that, does not mean they should. It's a depressed market for RBs so there is no need to overpay for one.


Because it doesn't hurt you. I think that's what you're missing. It's not like you're mortgaging your future. that's why its a short term deal. you front load it so you can get rid of it as early as even next year and still have the player for this year and compete. meanwhile you build through the draft and get the cheaper players.
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