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azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:23 AM) preseason or not, our offense hasn't looked competent in a while like it does this year. our rushing attack should be very good. Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory could be a dynamic duo
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Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:44 PM

1-Odell Beckham Jr WR, he should be able to come in right away and be a impact player. either as a return man or creating big plays for the offense, I love the explosiveness and the way he catches with his hands. Also real competitive.

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2-Jace Amaro TE. If Jace falls, he would be an ideal fit for us as he could be a real weapon in the passing game at TE which is important for the WCO. With Beckham and Amaro, we added 2 weapons that should contribute right away.

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3-Phillip Gaines CB. Rising player, he is 6'0 and runs a 4.3. Has the physical tools to hold up in our man defense.

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4-Brandon Thomas OG/OT. Build OL depth and get a future starting OG, tore his acl so he will slide.

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4-Jonathan Dowling S. 6'3 and has range, seemed productive in college as well.
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4-Michael Sam DE/OLB. Productive pass rusher last season, could grab some depth here.

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Not doing 5-7.
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 11:23 PM

Way to go out on a limb with your first 2 picks.

Tell me, what's the difference between ODB, Cooks, Lee, Allen Robinson and Jordan Matthews? STFU because you can't. It makes zero sense to draft one of the 5 at 18 because all 5 will be on the board and each of them can develop and be as good as the other. There's such a logjam at WR this draft that, compounded with the fact that we just snagged the best WR in FA, we will absolutely not draft a WR at 18 (unless the unthinkable happens and Evans falls). We're either going to trade back and then draft one or we're going to go with Ebron/Dennard/OLB.
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Posted 28 April 2014 - 09:19 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 April 2014 - 12:23 AM, said:

Way to go out on a limb with your first 2 picks.

Tell me, what's the difference between ODB, Cooks, Lee, Allen Robinson and Jordan Matthews? STFU because you can't. It makes zero sense to draft one of the 5 at 18 because all 5 will be on the board and each of them can develop and be as good as the other. There's such a logjam at WR this draft that, compounded with the fact that we just snagged the best WR in FA, we will absolutely not draft a WR at 18 (unless the unthinkable happens and Evans falls). We're either going to trade back and then draft one or we're going to go with Ebron/Dennard/OLB.



Why do you have to go out on the limb? That is what I want our first 2 picks to be. First off not all of those WRs will make it to round 2. I would like Brandin Cooks as well, but I like Beckham better. I don't like that Lee isn't a hands catcher, catches with his body and he didn't run as well. I also put value on Beckham playing in the SEC because there is a better chance of a SEC player being good than other conferences.

I don't value TEs in round 1. I think our pick will be a WR or CB. But I would continue getting playmakers on offense becuase it's been our offense that's been the problem.
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Posted 29 April 2014 - 05:20 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 April 2014 - 12:23 AM, said:

Way to go out on a limb with your first 2 picks.

Tell me, what's the difference between ODB, Cooks, Lee, Allen Robinson and Jordan Matthews? STFU because you can't. It makes zero sense to draft one of the 5 at 18 because all 5 will be on the board and each of them can develop and be as good as the other. There's such a logjam at WR this draft that, compounded with the fact that we just snagged the best WR in FA, we will absolutely not draft a WR at 18 (unless the unthinkable happens and Evans falls). We're either going to trade back and then draft one or we're going to go with Ebron/Dennard/OLB.


You act like you've actually watched any of them play.

Just stop.
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Posted 02 May 2014 - 10:26 AM

Here is another mock


1-Calvin Pryor FS 5'11 207, monster hitter in the back end that has good range. Rex likes safeties that are physical and he is that. Odell Beckham isn't falling to us. Doubt we take a safety in round 1 though.

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2-Donte Moncrief WR, 6'2 221. Tons of upside in this guy, has the talent and ability to be a #1 WR and stretch the field.

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3-Phillip Gaines CB, 6'0 193. Seen as a zone CB but he has shown he has speed running a 4.38 and has fluid hips, I think he can play in man.


4-Colt Lyerla TE, 6'4 242. Athletic TE that could be a beast in the WCO, but has some attitude problems.
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4-Zach Mettenberger QB, 6'5 224. Idk if he falls to round 4 but could be a nice grab, has upside.

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Rest draft whatever, OL and LB depth would be nice.
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Posted 02 May 2014 - 11:05 AM

I am still saying if any of the 3 top CBs are there we will go CB. Unless someone projected in the top 10 slides.
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Posted 02 May 2014 - 11:21 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 May 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

I am still saying if any of the 3 top CBs are there we will go CB. Unless someone projected in the top 10 slides.



I was just messing around with my mock. I highly doubt we go safety in round 1, I don't think Rex puts much value into the position. I think we go WR or CB with our first pick. It's looking like Odell Beckham won't fall to us. If Justin Gilbert fell to us, he would definitely be the pick, he has the size and measurables that this defense wants at CB being 6'0 and running a 4.3. Could see Bradly Roby being the pick as well being 5'11 and running a 4.3.
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Posted 02 May 2014 - 01:52 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 29 April 2014 - 06:20 AM, said:

You act like you've actually watched any of them play.

Just stop.


I actually watched a lot of college football last year. ODB didn't stand out to me. Cooks did. I think he's a beast. Didn't see any Vandy games but Jordan Matthews sounds like a steal in the second. Hard call on anyone from A&M, it was all just broken plays from Manziel doing his shit.
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Posted 04 May 2014 - 07:07 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 April 2014 - 12:23 AM, said:

Way to go out on a limb with your first 2 picks.

Tell me, what's the difference between ODB, Cooks, Lee, Allen Robinson and Jordan Matthews? STFU because you can't. It makes zero sense to draft one of the 5 at 18 because all 5 will be on the board and each of them can develop and be as good as the other. There's such a logjam at WR this draft that, compounded with the fact that we just snagged the best WR in FA, we will absolutely not draft a WR at 18 (unless the unthinkable happens and Evans falls). We're either going to trade back and then draft one or we're going to go with Ebron/Dennard/OLB.

I think the best pick for us would be Dee Ford or Darqueze Denard. I know it sounds silly to take an OLB instead of WR or TE. I think the draft is deep enough for us to get a WR in the second round (Robinson - both, Adams, Matthews, Landry, Bryant, etc.)and a TE in the third (Fedorowicz or if we are lucky Nicklas).

Ford is a beast and with our D-Line being as young but really good as it is and with Coples, Davis, Harris as the other LB's we could rush the QB unmercifully.

I would then look to trade for Josephs by offering our 4th round picks for him.

O-Line and CB we have to get lucky with the remaining picks (1- 4th, 1 - 5th, 4 - 6th's).
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Posted 04 May 2014 - 07:56 PM

View Postchocomag, on 04 May 2014 - 07:07 PM, said:

I think the best pick for us would be Dee Ford or Darqueze Denard. I know it sounds silly to take an OLB instead of WR or TE. I think the draft is deep enough for us to get a WR in the second round (Robinson - both, Adams, Matthews, Landry, Bryant, etc.)and a TE in the third (Fedorowicz or if we are lucky Nicklas).

Ford is a beast and with our D-Line being as young but really good as it is and with Coples, Davis, Harris as the other LB's we could rush the QB unmercifully.

I would then look to trade for Josephs by offering our 4th round picks for him.

O-Line and CB we have to get lucky with the remaining picks (1- 4th, 1 - 5th, 4 - 6th's).

Could you imagine the reaction at RCMH if we took Dee Ford? It would be classic.
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Posted 05 May 2014 - 06:12 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 02 May 2014 - 02:52 PM, said:

I actually watched a lot of college football last year. ODB didn't stand out to me. Cooks did. I think he's a beast. Didn't see any Vandy games but Jordan Matthews sounds like a steal in the second. Hard call on anyone from A&M, it was all just broken plays from Manziel doing his shit.


LOL

ODB didn't stand out.

Right.
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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:20 PM

Looks like that last mock ended up being right with round 1.
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Posted 08 May 2014 - 10:54 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 08 May 2014 - 10:20 PM, said:

Looks like that last mock ended up being right with round 1.



Man I think your some guy that works for the jets front office who pretends to be a regular dude. I give you credit most consistant poster on this site. What are your thoughts on Pryor and i assume he is replacing Landry? Wonder if Idzik and rex were thinking Earl Thomas with this pick.
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Posted 08 May 2014 - 11:05 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 02 May 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

I was just messing around with my mock. I highly doubt we go safety in round 1, I don't think Rex puts much value into the position. I think we go WR or CB with our first pick. It's looking like Odell Beckham won't fall to us. If Justin Gilbert fell to us, he would definitely be the pick, he has the size and measurables that this defense wants at CB being 6'0 and running a 4.3. Could see Bradly Roby being the pick as well being 5'11 and running a 4.3.


Lol
Get it done MT
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Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:39 AM

View PostRetireChrebet, on 08 May 2014 - 11:54 PM, said:

Man I think your some guy that works for the jets front office who pretends to be a regular dude. I give you credit most consistant poster on this site. What are your thoughts on Pryor and i assume he is replacing Landry? Wonder if Idzik and rex were thinking Earl Thomas with this pick.



lol I was just messing around with that mock but it's funny that it ending up being right. The draft is deeper at CB and WR. It seemed like Rex didn't value safeties all that much in the past, but Pryor does fit the bill on what he would like. Physical player who isn't afraid to knock someone out. I think he'll thrive under Rex, I like him. Not a fan of a safety in round 1, but he should be good for us. It was a need.
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