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Michael Vick: Geno Smith Is New York Jets' Starting Qb

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 10:12 PM

Jets quarterback Michael Vick says there won't be a fight with Geno Smith over New York's top job under center.

"Geno's the starting quarterback for that football team," Vick said Saturday, per The Star-Ledger. "Ultimately our goal is to try to help Geno become the best quarterback that he can be. Myself and (third-stringer Matt Simms) are all trying to put him in a position where he can get better from Year One to Year Two."

That flies in the face of LeSean McCoy's assessment, but Jets offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg hinted last week that signing Vick was motivated largely by a desire to help Smith develop into a franchise passer.

"We brought Mike in to compete, to push Geno, and to make Geno the very best he can make him and I want to make sure Mike was ready for that," Mornhinweg said Tuesday. "I had Mike for a year with Donovan (McNabb) there (in Philadelphia). I think this thing is going to work beautifully."

Mornhinweg also acknowledged that Smith would "get a few more reps" during the team's offseason activities but said if Vick is "called upon to play when he's called upon to play, I expect Mike Vick to play at a real high level."

At age 34, Vick wasn't brought to town to create waves and make demands. We're bound to see both passers this season, but the Jets -- here in May -- haven't given up on making Smith their starter of the future.
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Posted 05 May 2014 - 09:55 AM

I hope Geno takes a big step forward this year but if not I want the best guy in there. Personally I would be very suprised if Geno starts over Vick.
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Posted 05 May 2014 - 12:52 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 05 May 2014 - 03:55 PM, said:

I hope Geno takes a big step forward this year but if not I want the best guy in there. Personally I would be very suprised if Geno starts over Vick.


I'm happy to see either QB back there next season.

Geno showed flashes at times and probably did enough to warrant being the number one headed into camp. I'm sure some of the wobbles he had will continue into year two though, and having Vick as an insurance option should mean the offense stays on course if Smith gets pulled. With Vick's knowledge of and success he had in Mornhinweg's system and the team-first attitude he seems to have developed since returning with the Eagles, he's well qualified to help Geno develop too.
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Posted 05 May 2014 - 01:25 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 05 May 2014 - 12:52 PM, said:

I'm happy to see either QB back there next season.

Geno showed flashes at times and probably did enough to warrant being the number one headed into camp. I'm sure some of the wobbles he had will continue into year two though, and having Vick as an insurance option should mean the offense stays on course if Smith gets pulled. With Vick's knowledge of and success he had in Mornhinweg's system and the team-first attitude he seems to have developed since returning with the Eagles, he's well qualified to help Geno develop too.

Geno seemed to play alot loser and with more passion the last two games. Almost like he was more comfortable. Hopefully he can carry that forward.
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Posted 06 May 2014 - 10:11 AM

Remembering the healthy experienced passing Vick with experience (not the purely running Vick) Id rather see Vick starting but considering how frail he is now after so man devastating hits and multiple injuries its better to think logically on this.

If we start Vick and he stays healthy we would be in good shape but Vick hasn't been able to go a full season without an injury in a long time so its probably better that Geno starts to help his development progress. Benching him for part of the season or whatever could make him regress. Thinking with common sense Vick isn't going to get more durable so hoping he can last an entire season as the starter isn't very probable.

It would be better not to have a training camp competition and give Geno the starting job. If he screws up on the field to much he can always be benched for Vick if need be.
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Posted 07 May 2014 - 07:44 PM

You don't put the better player on the bench because you're afraid he's going to get hurt. That makes no sense. You put the best player out there, and if he gets hurt, you bring in the second best player. Not the other way around.

You also don't give someone $5 million to carry a clipboard.

Vick is going to be the opening day starter because he gives the Jets the best chance to win.

I do appreciate the fact that he is trying to protect Geno's feelings this point in time. Shows that he's a good teammate. No need to start stirring things up in the media when training camp hasn't even started. Vick will do his talking on the field and it will quickly become obvious that, even in the latter stages of his career, he is far superior to Geno Smith.

If he does get hurt, It will be nice to have a serviceable back up like Geno who's somewhat familiar with the system.
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