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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Michael Vick: Geno Smith Is New York Jets' Starting Qb

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 10:12 PM

Jets quarterback Michael Vick says there won't be a fight with Geno Smith over New York's top job under center.

"Geno's the starting quarterback for that football team," Vick said Saturday, per The Star-Ledger. "Ultimately our goal is to try to help Geno become the best quarterback that he can be. Myself and (third-stringer Matt Simms) are all trying to put him in a position where he can get better from Year One to Year Two."

That flies in the face of LeSean McCoy's assessment, but Jets offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg hinted last week that signing Vick was motivated largely by a desire to help Smith develop into a franchise passer.

"We brought Mike in to compete, to push Geno, and to make Geno the very best he can make him and I want to make sure Mike was ready for that," Mornhinweg said Tuesday. "I had Mike for a year with Donovan (McNabb) there (in Philadelphia). I think this thing is going to work beautifully."

Mornhinweg also acknowledged that Smith would "get a few more reps" during the team's offseason activities but said if Vick is "called upon to play when he's called upon to play, I expect Mike Vick to play at a real high level."

At age 34, Vick wasn't brought to town to create waves and make demands. We're bound to see both passers this season, but the Jets -- here in May -- haven't given up on making Smith their starter of the future.
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Posted 05 May 2014 - 09:55 AM

I hope Geno takes a big step forward this year but if not I want the best guy in there. Personally I would be very suprised if Geno starts over Vick.
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Posted 05 May 2014 - 12:52 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 05 May 2014 - 03:55 PM, said:

I hope Geno takes a big step forward this year but if not I want the best guy in there. Personally I would be very suprised if Geno starts over Vick.


I'm happy to see either QB back there next season.

Geno showed flashes at times and probably did enough to warrant being the number one headed into camp. I'm sure some of the wobbles he had will continue into year two though, and having Vick as an insurance option should mean the offense stays on course if Smith gets pulled. With Vick's knowledge of and success he had in Mornhinweg's system and the team-first attitude he seems to have developed since returning with the Eagles, he's well qualified to help Geno develop too.
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Posted 05 May 2014 - 01:25 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 05 May 2014 - 12:52 PM, said:

I'm happy to see either QB back there next season.

Geno showed flashes at times and probably did enough to warrant being the number one headed into camp. I'm sure some of the wobbles he had will continue into year two though, and having Vick as an insurance option should mean the offense stays on course if Smith gets pulled. With Vick's knowledge of and success he had in Mornhinweg's system and the team-first attitude he seems to have developed since returning with the Eagles, he's well qualified to help Geno develop too.

Geno seemed to play alot loser and with more passion the last two games. Almost like he was more comfortable. Hopefully he can carry that forward.
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Posted 06 May 2014 - 10:11 AM

Remembering the healthy experienced passing Vick with experience (not the purely running Vick) Id rather see Vick starting but considering how frail he is now after so man devastating hits and multiple injuries its better to think logically on this.

If we start Vick and he stays healthy we would be in good shape but Vick hasn't been able to go a full season without an injury in a long time so its probably better that Geno starts to help his development progress. Benching him for part of the season or whatever could make him regress. Thinking with common sense Vick isn't going to get more durable so hoping he can last an entire season as the starter isn't very probable.

It would be better not to have a training camp competition and give Geno the starting job. If he screws up on the field to much he can always be benched for Vick if need be.
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Posted 07 May 2014 - 07:44 PM

You don't put the better player on the bench because you're afraid he's going to get hurt. That makes no sense. You put the best player out there, and if he gets hurt, you bring in the second best player. Not the other way around.

You also don't give someone $5 million to carry a clipboard.

Vick is going to be the opening day starter because he gives the Jets the best chance to win.

I do appreciate the fact that he is trying to protect Geno's feelings this point in time. Shows that he's a good teammate. No need to start stirring things up in the media when training camp hasn't even started. Vick will do his talking on the field and it will quickly become obvious that, even in the latter stages of his career, he is far superior to Geno Smith.

If he does get hurt, It will be nice to have a serviceable back up like Geno who's somewhat familiar with the system.
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