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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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2014 Draft: Round 4, Pick #4 Jalen Saunders

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 11:34 AM


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:18 PM

Kid's got real nice hands and has some speed. His size is definitely a concern though.
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Posted 11 May 2014 - 01:37 PM

I really dont know what to think of kid. I mean where and how does he fit in is my real concern besides him being 165lbs. obviously everyone thinks special teams but in the 4th rd to pick a guy primarily for specials when we still had needs such as OL, LB, DB and getting guys to play as depth. Leads me to beileve that he'll be used in the offense a sprinkle but how? Look at our core...

Decker
Kerley
Hill/Evans/Nelson
Saunders
Ford
Gates

Etc..

Where do we use him on offense? I can't see them using him only for packages.
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Posted 11 May 2014 - 02:13 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 11 May 2014 - 07:37 PM, said:

I really dont know what to think of kid. I mean where and how does he fit in is my real concern besides him being 165lbs. obviously everyone thinks special teams but in the 4th rd to pick a guy primarily for specials when we still had needs such as OL, LB, DB and getting guys to play as depth. Leads me to beileve that he'll be used in the offense a sprinkle but how? Look at our core...

Decker
Kerley
Hill/Evans/Nelson
Saunders
Ford
Gates

Etc..

Where do we use him on offense? I can't see them using him only for packages.


Thought you were a Sooner Dubb?! You should love this kid.

His size - or lack of it - is something of a concern, but if he can gain separation from DBs, get open and catch passes then it doesn't matter. If you look purely at their build, then Decker, Evans, Nelson and Hill (if he makes the team) can play outside with Kerley, Ford, Saunders and Gates as slot receivers. The quality may not be great, but as I said in another thread, the threat on passing plays posed by Chris Johnson and Amaro should mean defences won't be able to key in on our receivers as much.
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Posted 11 May 2014 - 04:05 PM

I viewed a few seconds of his highlight video on YouTube.

Now I can go online and say that I've "watched film" on this guy and act like I'm some kind of expert.

I'm so excited!
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Posted 11 May 2014 - 05:53 PM

Between Saunders, Evans, and Enunwa hopefully one pans out. Enunwa is intriguing to me because hes 6'2 225 and runs a 4.45 and had 12 TD last season on a run team.
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Posted 14 May 2014 - 01:00 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 11 May 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

Thought you were a Sooner Dubb?! You should love this kid.

His size - or lack of it - is something of a concern, but if he can gain separation from DBs, get open and catch passes then it doesn't matter. If you look purely at their build, then Decker, Evans, Nelson and Hill (if he makes the team) can play outside with Kerley, Ford, Saunders and Gates as slot receivers. The quality may not be great, but as I said in another thread, the threat on passing plays posed by Chris Johnson and Amaro should mean defences won't be able to key in on our receivers as much.

Thats the same with any receiver. As long as he can gain separation. However that isn't going to happen every play and the times he does take a nice hit is going to make us all skip a beat. That's why I want big WRs like the guy we got from UCLA, cause even if they do take a hit, you don't need to panic every time about whether he's going to be out indefinitely.
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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:39 PM

View PostRoger Vick, on 11 May 2014 - 05:05 PM, said:

I viewed a few seconds of his highlight video on YouTube.

Now I can go online and say that I've "watched film" on this guy and act like I'm some kind of expert.

I'm so excited!



ITA, I get the feeling that's what most people do when they say they "watched film" on somebody. I'm going to be honest, other than Tajh Boyd I had never heard of any of the other Jets draft picks before last Thursday. I watched some UCLA games last year, but Shaq Evans didn't stand out to me. But that doesn't mean he won't be a good player.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:08 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 11 May 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

Thought you were a Sooner Dubb?! You should love this kid.

His size - or lack of it - is something of a concern, but if he can gain separation from DBs, get open and catch passes then it doesn't matter. If you look purely at their build, then Decker, Evans, Nelson and Hill (if he makes the team) can play outside with Kerley, Ford, Saunders and Gates as slot receivers. The quality may not be great, but as I said in another thread, the threat on passing plays posed by Chris Johnson and Amaro should mean defences won't be able to key in on our receivers as much.


I love his tenacity. He plays with real purpose, he'll make the tough catches and go over the middle and make plays but there is something about him that drives me crazy when we talk about taking him off of OU and putting him on the Jets in this offense with these WR's. I just dont see where he can contribute other than special teams. The only real way I see him getting legit time or in some real rotations is if Kerely plays at 2. If Evans, Nelson or Hill land at 2 then that automatically puts Kerley in the slot. Which brings me to my other point, we will not open up more then 3Wr packages. With the backs we have, plus a good TE and given that our surplus of WR talent just isnt there much past Decker and Kerely ( We gotta see what transpires in camp) we won't venture with 4 or 5 wides much. Which ultimately means he won't see much time if he doesn't make it in the starting 3. Can he beat out guys like Nelson? (whos hungry), Evans??, Hill?? Tough task. Getting past Nelson won't happen.

Another thing about him that's a concern is he doesn't seem to have another gear. Often times he'll get caught from behind or tripped up. Happens more often then you can imagine. He has a great first burst but flat lines or (maxes out) immediately after which is another reason why he gets caught a lot. The finer points of his game is with "quick twitch" footwork, making guys miss, stop and go. Im not sure about his game at this level. Guys on defense in the pros will look to destroy him and test his frame. I know I would as a safety or DB.

Can't see him doing much other then specials and in some occasional packages.
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