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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Denver Broncos, Chicago Bears make list of best NFL offseasons

By Elliot Harrison
NFL Media analyst
Published: May 20, 2014 at 02:54 p.m. Updated: May 20, 2014 at 07:13 p.m. 480 Likes | 155 Comments
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Who has made the most of their offseason?

Since January, every front office has been trying to put its best foot forward, as there is no slowdown in the NFL calendar until June. Unfortunately, the clubs that haven't handled this period well in the past are the very franchises that must manage it better this year. That's how the 5-11's become the 11-5's.

That said, evaluating the organizational energy applied to molding a football roster provides unique insight into our sport. Simply put, you get a greater feel for the pressures general managers face on a daily basis upon looking at all the coaching hires, contractual decisions and draft-related confabs these guys must undertake.



Watch "The Top 100 Players of 2014" every week at 9 p.m. ET on NFL Network as we count down to the top player in the NFL. "The Top 100 Players of 2014 Reactions" airs Wednesdays at 10 p.m. ET.
So, which front offices have done the best job in 2014? We counted down the 10 best below.

Now, in the interest of full disclosure, we gave more weight to the clubs that had to do more, or go outside the building for talent. Thus the Green Bay Packers, who got healthy, and the Philadelphia Eagles, who spent most of their capital re-signing their own guys, didn't make this list -- but they still had very positive offseasons. One of the Eagles' rivals did make it, partially by acquiring Philly's biggest vertical threat. ...

10) Washington Redskins
The DeSean Jackson signing was absolutely huge. This team has not had a guy who could get vertical AND make plays since Santana Moss deep-sixed Dallas on a Monday night back in 2005. (Please don't mention Anthony Armstrong here.) Yet, even prior to acquiring one of the fastest receivers in pro football, Washington was having a busy offseason. Head coach Jay Gruden was hired to both run the ship and develop RGIII's career. GM Bruce Allen brought in Jason Hatcher to fortify the front line of a defense that was up and down in 2013. Andre Roberts bolsters a now-strong receiving corps. The Redskins' draft haul wasn't as strong, however, as the RGIII trade left Washington without a first-round pick. That said, third-rounder Morgan Moses should be able to step in at right tackle immediately. And during the pre-draft process, he was considered a late first-round prospect by many folks, anyway.

Nothing is perfect ... (Yes, we're dumping a little cold water on each of these fine offseason efforts -- can't have anyone's head getting TOO big.)

The choice of Gruden to lead the team was far from universally praised. He's not a disciplinarian, and it is easy to point to Andy Dalton's trials as an indictment on this hire. Time will tell.

9) New Orleans Saints
Better too soon than too late. ... Many questioned trading Darren Sproles for a mere fifth-round draft pick. But considering that his game is built on explosion -- and that he turns 31 next month -- should the move be framed as anything but shrewd? Because of the dearth of trades in this era of the NFL, the Sproles transaction with Philly garnered perhaps more attention than the signing of Jairus Byrd -- arguably the best defender on the free-agent market, or very close to it. Getting Byrd, veteran leadership from Champ Bailey and a big corner (6-foot-3, 218 pounds) in Stanley Jean-Baptiste transforms what had been a soft spot in the defense into a solid unit for Sean Payton to lean on. (Though, if Payton does have to win games 34-30, adding Brandin Cooks' 4.33 speed to the slot sure doesn't hurt, folks.)


Nothing is perfect ...

The Jimmy Graham situation is a little sticky. The club is paying him like a tight end, but Graham ... er, his agent and the NFLPA ... consider him a wideout, based on how often he lined up in non-TE spots last season. The ruling could cost the Saints $5 million.

8) Baltimore Ravens
Ozzie Newsome might not be a wizard, but if I were a 29-year-old assistant GM, or a GM in the Arena League, I'd be calling, emailing, LinkedIn-ing him about being a mentor. Baltimore consistently handles its offeasons well, with this year being no different. The Ravens don't generally overspend on guys, and judiciously add players who can help the team win. What Newsome did this offseason was retool effectively in the draft, filling out the defense with safety Terrence Brooks, tackle Timmy Jernigan, and, most important, linebacker C.J. Mosley. Meanwhile, the offense needed another option besides tight end Dennis Pitta on third-and-6, and the team might have found it in Steve Smith. The 14th-year vet provides Baltimore with that fearless receiver in traffic who might gain 800 yards in the regular season, but makes eight miles worth of difference in the postseason.

Nothing is perfect ...

The run game is still terrible, and Ray Rice's availability could be in question following his February arrest on an aggravated assault charge.

7) Minnesota Vikings
Call the Minnesota Vikings' offseason solid, all the way around. The free-agency period represented a time of discernment, and the draft more of the same -- with a dash of Day 1 splash. That poor wordplay will hopefully be outdone by Teddy Bridgewater, who represented the first-round noisemaking from GM Rick Spielman. The Vikes had to address quarterback ... and did (via trade). Who cares if they did so much later on Thursday night than people initially thought they would? Ninth overall pick Anthony Barr has a chance to be a force in the NFL and, of course, is 10 years younger than the departed Jared Allen. On a less sexy note, the acquisitions of mid-tier players like DT Linval Joseph and CB Captain Munnerlyn might not have graced the cover of "US Weekly," but they did retool areas of decay. Let us also not forget the Mike Zimmer addition -- a head-coaching hire that was long overdue, according to many league observers.


Nothing is perfect ...

With Allen and Kevin Williams now gone, this defense is lacking some All-Pro leadership. Who can rally the troops -- and the crowd -- like Allen did? The NFC North's packed with offenses that can play.

6) New York Jets
The Jets seemingly did it all this offseason, acquiring a QB1 (maybe), RB1 (although not 2K) and WR1 (debatable) this offseason. Well, if Eric Decker isn't a true No. 1, he's a darn-good facet of a passing game that, all of a sudden, doesn't look so willowish. In fact, "Willow" was easier to watch than this team's pass offense last season, and that's saying something. GM John Idzik made sure the club added a tight end in the great college marketplace (Jace Amaro, a big target with viable if not top-end speed), as well as two more receivers in Round 4. As far as the RB1, Chris Johnson's best days might be behind him, but that doesn't mean he can't rush for 1,070 yards and eight touchdowns. That's all this team needs from him if Geno Smith steps it up this season. And if he doesn't, the Jets can always insert newcomer Michael Vick into the lineup. What about the defense, you ask? It's gotten much younger the last couple of years.

Nothing is perfect ...

Some of the defense's youth injection came at the expense of letting Antonio Cromartie walk. That's a loss, any way you look at it.


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5) Arizona Cardinals
I love the Deone Bucannon pick. Here's your next Adrian Wilson, Cardinals fans. But the choice of Arizona on this list is not all about the 2014 NFL Draft, though GM Steve Keim and the Cards' scouting department did a wonderful job filling needs two weeks ago. In fact, second-round pick Troy Niklas is an interesting tight end prospect -- when he learns how to leverage his 270 pounds more effectively, Arizona's run game should spike. But free agency was key in the desert this offseason, as Keim added Jared Veldheer -- a young and talented offensive tackle who still can improve -- while also bringing in an older vet who can make a solid defense one of the NFL's top three units. We're speaking, of course, of Cromartie, who teams with Patrick Peterson, Tyrann Mathieu and Bucannon to form a premier secondary. Lastly, taking a draft flier on QB prospect Logan Thomas was smart.

Nothing is perfect ...

We realize pass rushers don't grow on trees, but hoping John Abraham -- who just turned 36 years old -- secures 11.5 sacks again could be characterized as wistful thinking.

4) Jacksonville Jaguars
So many nice moves by GM David Caldwell and Co. this spring. Re-signing veteran quarterback Chad Henne was important for the Jags, even with the eventual selection of Blake Bortles. Acquiring defensive linemen Chris Clemons and Red Bryant -- both familiar with head coach Gus Bradley from their Seattle days -- makes a former weakness almost a strength. Adding Toby Gerhart to the backfield was solid. Then Jacksonville went out and had a great draft. Some say they reached on Bortles, but what were they supposed to do -- hope he lasted to the second round? He was their guy, so they pounced.


Nothing is perfect ...

This whole Justin Blackmon thing just reeks of blown opportunity for franchise and player. Sounds like the Jags' organization has already moved on. We'll see.

3) Denver Broncos
John Elway took a serious swing for the Super Bowl fences in the offseason, acquiring pass rusher DeMarcus Ware, cornerback Aqib Talib and safety T.J. Ward. Ward was the second-best safety on the free-agent market (behind Byrd); while he doesn't bring the name recognition of Ware or Talib, he brings critical youth and upside. Meanwhile, the Broncos needed to unload Bailey's salary, which is a very hard thing to do when a player has played at a Hall of Fame level -- no exaggeration -- for an organization. Elway managed that, as well. And we won't penalize Denver for replacing Decker with Emmanuel Sanders. To truly judge the latter's adequacy, we need to see how he performs in this Peyton Manning offense. What was Decker before Manning arrived?

Nothing is perfect ...

Although the Broncos picked up some needs, why not draft a playmaker like Marqise Lee with the 31st overall pick? The club is also putting much on Montee Ball's shoulders.

2) Chicago Bears

Around The League predicts the Week 1 starting lineups for all 32 teams, analyzing the potential impact of each rookie class.

AFC East
» Bills | Dolphins | Jets | Patriots
AFC North
» Bengals | Browns | Ravens | Steelers
AFC South
» Colts | Jaguars | Texans | Titans
AFC West
» Broncos | Chargers | Chiefs | Raiders
NFC East
» Cowboys | Eagles | Giants | Redskins
NFC North
» Bears | Lions | Packers | Vikings
NFC South
» Buccaneers | Falcons | Panthers | Saints
NFC West
» Cardinals | 49ers | Rams | Seahawks
General manager Phil Emery Rambo'd out on this offseason like Stallone in "First Blood Part II." Let's be honest, Jared Allen is far from Stallone-in-his-prime shredded, but the big 30-something can still produce 10 sacks for this team. Emery also knew he needed to fix the Bears' Achilles' heel -- run defense -- and did so by acquiring Lamarr Houston in free agency and drafting defensive tackles with their second- and third-round picks. Selecting cornerback Kyle Fuller in the first round makes a whole lot of sense in a division that features Aaron Rodgers and Matt Stafford. And drafting running back Ka'Deem Carey on Day 3 as some Matt Forte insurance will pay off.

Nothing is perfect ...

Shelling out $54 million guaranteed for Jay Cutler's re-up and $15 million guaranteed for Houston's five-year contract seems excessive. Losing Josh McCown hurts.

1) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
When a team cleans house after a lackluster season, you want to see it:

» Go after a respected commodity in a head coach.
» Hire an astute personnel mind at general manager.
» Acquire talented young free agents.
» Have a solid draft.

Oh, and you also want the organization to do its best to make over a stale image. That's the recipe for a solid offseason. The Bucs have knocked it out of the park since January 1.

New acquisitions Michael Johnson and Alterraun Verner are pups and address major team needs. Smith went 10-6 for the Chicago Bears the year he was fired, and his players love him. McCown had a helluva 2013 with the Bears, and with more than a decade in the league, might have been the perfect signing by GM Jason Licht. Adding Mike Evans and Austin Seferian-Jenkins in the 2014 NFL Draft gives McCown some trees to throw to, as well.

Nothing is perfect ...

About making over that organization's image ... not feeling those new uni's. You? (Hit us up ... @HarrisonNFL.)

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