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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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50 Senators Push Nfl To Change Redskins Name

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 08:05 AM

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Fifty Senators send letter pushing NFL to change Redskins name

http://profootballta...-redskins-name/

It’s one thing for a random politician to speak out about the Redskins name or another to muse about the possibility of changing it on a popular national radio and TV show. It’s quite another for 50 members of the United State Senate — FIFTY — to sign a letter to the NFL urging action on the name of the franchise owned by Daniel Snyder.

FIFTY.

Via the New York Times, nearly half of the legislative body wants the name to be changed.

“The NFL can no longer ignore this and perpetuate the use of this name as anything but what it is: a racial slur,” the letter says. “We urge the NFL to formally support a name change for the Washington football team. . . . We urge you and the National Football League to send the same clear message as the NBA did: that racism and bigotry have no place in professional sports.”

How significant is it that so many Senators signed off on the letter?

“Listen, it is hard to get 50 people in this place to agree on anything,” Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) said.

The issue broke, as so many of these issues do, along party lines; all but five of the Senate’s Democrats signed the letter and no Republicans did. Mark Warner and Tim Kaine of Virginia, Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Joe Donnelly of Indiana, and Mark Pryor of Arkansas abstained.

“The intent of the team’s name has always been to present a strong, positive and respectful image,” the league said in a statement issued to the Times. “The name is not used by the team or the NFL in any other context, though we respect those that view it differently.”

And that’s the heart of the dilemma the NFL currently faces. At some point in the past year, the NFL and the franchise have conceded that reasonable minds may differ on whether the name “Redskins” is a slur. Does the league want one of its teams to carry a name on which a fair debate exists and lingers regarding whether the name represents blatant and open racism?

For the NBA, swift and decisive action was taken in response to comments made privately by Sterling. For the NFL, the problem continues to hide in plain sight.

The best argument in support of change comes from the reality that, if the NFL were forming a team now, there’s no way it ever would be dubbed the “Redskins.” It continues only because of its past. At some point in the future, the present will prevail.


Dan Snyder needs to stop being a pain about this issue and change the name.
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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:15 AM

I dont really care either way to be honest.

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“Listen, it is hard to get 50 people in this place to agree on anything,” Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) said.


Not when it can only help you get votes.
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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:19 PM

View PostChaos, on 22 May 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

Dan Snyder needs to stop being a pain about this issue and change the name.


Has he given up on trying to bribe the Native-American tribes he visited on his "listening tour"?

It's just a matter of time before that name is finally changed. Now it's only a matter of time before somebody chimes in with that inevitable "shouldn't they be focused on more important things" post.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

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4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 23 May 2014 - 05:37 AM

Washington Palefaces
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Posted 23 May 2014 - 06:39 AM

View PostRoger Vick, on 23 May 2014 - 05:37 AM, said:

Washington Palefaces

White skins
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Posted 23 May 2014 - 05:32 PM

They could keep the Redskins name, but just change the logo to a sunburned Irishman.
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Posted 24 May 2014 - 03:12 AM

When Goodell runs out of 100$ bills in his bathroom I hope he takes this letter and whipes his ass with it. Politicians need to stay the f*** out of sports.
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Posted 24 May 2014 - 03:28 AM

View PostRetireChrebet, on 24 May 2014 - 04:12 AM, said:

Politicians need to stay the f*** out of sports.


Why should they? What the f*** makes sports so special that it is above reproach?

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 24 May 2014 - 09:50 AM

What I don't get is why are the chiefs not under fire as well
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Posted 24 May 2014 - 11:53 AM

View Postbleedsgreen, on 24 May 2014 - 09:50 AM, said:

What I don't get is why are the chiefs not under fire as well

They will be eventually but Redskin is a derogatory name. Once this battle is won the squeaky wheels will be on the prowl out of boredom.
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Posted 24 May 2014 - 01:49 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 24 May 2014 - 04:28 AM, said:

Why should they? What the f*** makes sports so special that it is above reproach?


Hmm perhaps because they are Politicians and should stick to their so called area of expertise (politics). This country is so soft now it makes me sick, maybe we should just rename all teams by color. We can have the blue team, red, yellow, black, white oh wait that'll offend some as well. I realize government is necessary in certain areas of sports, like stadiums, health care ect but I can do away with all the posturing and grandstanding. Funny, the elections are coming up soon, coincidence..? This will be a non topic following November. While the rest of the country is worried about offending people with tattoos, hoodies and team logos I'll be in the other room avoiding the idiots.
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Posted 24 May 2014 - 02:47 PM

View Postbleedsgreen, on 24 May 2014 - 10:50 AM, said:

What I don't get is why are the chiefs not under fire as well



The word Chiefs is not exclusive to Native-American culture. The argument can be made that there are tribal chiefs in Africa too for example. Just like with the word "Warriors" is not exclusive to Native-Americans. But even the Kansas City Chiefs have at least changed their logo from a half naked chief running with a tomahawk. To just a arrowhead with the letters K and C in it.

But really if you met a group of Native-American tribal chiefs, what are you going to call them? Chiefs or redskins? I mean if you can't see the difference between those two words then I can't help you.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 24 May 2014 - 03:14 PM

View PostRetireChrebet, on 24 May 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

Hmm perhaps because they are Politicians and should stick to their so called area of expertise (politics). This country is so soft now it makes me sick, maybe we should just rename all teams by color. We can have the blue team, red, yellow, black, white oh wait that'll offend some as well. I realize government is necessary in certain areas of sports, like stadiums, health care ect but I can do away with all the posturing and grandstanding. Funny, the elections are coming up soon, coincidence..? This will be a non topic following November. While the rest of the country is worried about offending people with tattoos, hoodies and team logos I'll be in the other room avoiding the idiots.



Oh so it's just because of the elections? Because its not like we were talking about this very issue last year when there was no major national elections that year.

Members Of Congress Urge Redskins To Change Name

No this isn't about "politicians should stick to their so called area of expertise". Whatever the hell that means since it is politicians/elected officials responsibility to address the concerns of ALL its people. Not just the folks who don't feel offended and are tired of political correctness. Because God forbid we take the thoughts and views of other people who we don't know and don't see everyday into consideration. Really why should these tribal organizations and these politicians get involved in this? Keeping a sports team's nickname is MUCH more important than the views of a group of people who were once 100% of the population of this land to now just being 1% of the population. I guess robbing, raping, and murdering their ancestors wasn't enough. Now we have to continue to disrespect them by still having a professional franchise in the year 2014 still called the "Redskins".

Shit, Redskins wasn't even the team's original name. They were called the Braves originally. It was their former owner George Preston Marshall who changed the name from Braves to Redskins. The same George Preston Marshall who BTW was the last NFL owner to integrate his team in the 1960s. And had to be forced to integrate because POLITICIANS in the Kennedy administration used their influence to force him to integrate.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 25 May 2014 - 11:49 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 24 May 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

Oh so it's just because of the elections? Because its not like we were talking about this very issue last year when there was no major national elections that year.


Yea your right all those politicians only think about their image and votes the year of the election.m :hysterical:/>
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Posted 25 May 2014 - 02:00 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 25 May 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

Yea your right all those politicians only think about their image and votes the year of the election.m :hysterical:



He was the one that said the only reason they're talking about it THIS YEAR was because it's an election year. I just pointed out that this was also a topic of discussion last year. But I'm sure that 1% of Native-American votes these politicians are trying to get is really going to make a big difference on election day. :rolleyes:


I guess one side is pandering to the Native-American vote by trying to get Washington, D.C.'s NFL team to change its name. While the other side is busy talking about presidential birth certificates Obamacare a Hillary/Monica connection Benghazi to motivate their base to get out and vote this year.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 25 May 2014 - 08:40 PM

Don't change it. If the Native Americans don't like it, they can get the hell out of our country.
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Posted 25 May 2014 - 11:09 PM

Rebuttal letter from Bruce Allen:

http://files.redskin...bruce-allen.pdf
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Posted 26 May 2014 - 09:27 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 25 May 2014 - 11:09 PM, said:

Rebuttal letter from Bruce Allen:

http://files.redskin...bruce-allen.pdf

Pretty PC letter.this is not over though. It's gonna get ugly.cant wait
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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:41 AM

View PostRoger Vick, on 25 May 2014 - 09:40 PM, said:

Don't change it. If the Native Americans don't like it, they can get the hell out of our country.


I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt here and hope that was sarcasm
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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:14 PM

The thing I find the most interesting about that P.R. letter, is in the body of the letter they refer to Native-American people as "Native-Americans". Look at the last line of that letter. "We hope you will join us; Native Americans deserve our support." NOT "We hope you will join us; redskins deserve our support."

Olbermann pointed it out on his show. Daniel Snyder and his employees (like Bruce Allen) call the Native-Americans "Native-Americans" and not "redskins". Hmmm, I wonder why? Why doesn't Snyder refer to the Native-Americans he's now trying to buy off as "redskin" or "redskins".

I mean if it's not an offensive word (which he claims it's not), why not call them "redskins" in that letter or when he's talking to the press? I'd love to see Snyder go to these reservations with ESPN cameras and meet the people that live there and call the people he meets there "redskins". Right to their faces in front of the media. Then we'll see how long that name remains after all the backlash. I mean they should be okay with it right? They shouldn't be offended by it.

I think even Snyder knows it's only a matter of time now, considering how much attention this issue has gotten in just the past year. The name will eventually be changed in the next few years. It's inevitable.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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