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Posted 26 May 2014 - 08:42 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 26 May 2014 - 01:14 PM, said:

The thing I find the most interesting about that P.R. letter, is in the body of the letter they refer to Native-American people as "Native-Americans". Look at the last line of that letter. "We hope you will join us; Native Americans deserve our support." NOT "We hope you will join us; redskins deserve our support."

Why would they want to pour gas on the fire? I get what your saying but if they did that they would be basically antagonizing. I don't see an issue with it.
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Posted 26 May 2014 - 09:28 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 26 May 2014 - 09:42 PM, said:

Why would they want to pour gas on the fire? I get what your saying but if they did that they would be basically antagonizing. I don't see an issue with it.



LOL. But but but it's not an offensive word to Native-Americans. How would calling actual Native-American people "redskins" be pouring gas on the fire? What fire? I mean if it's not an offensive word to Native-Americans...excuse me...redskins, then there is no fire. Right? I'll tell you what, why don't you go to a powwow and call the Native-Americans there "redskins" and see if it's an "issue" for you then.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 10:09 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 26 May 2014 - 09:28 PM, said:

LOL. But but but it's not an offensive word to Native-Americans. How would calling actual Native-American people "redskins" be pouring gas on the fire? What fire? I mean if it's not an offensive word to Native-Americans...excuse me...redskins, then there is no fire. Right? I'll tell you what, why don't you go to a powwow and call the Native-Americans there "redskins" and see if it's an "issue" for you then.

If you can't see the difference I gave your intelligence to much credit.
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Posted 26 May 2014 - 10:20 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 26 May 2014 - 11:09 PM, said:

If you can't see the difference I gave your intelligence to much credit.



Well I's be two stoopid too under-stande u. Pleeze xplain it two me?


No it's just that you guys who "don't see an issue with it" are just trying to defend the indefensible. If the word "redskins" was really not a slur. Then Dan Snyder and the rest of you trying to defend it wouldn't have a problem using the word "redskins" to refer to not only the football team. But also towards the actual human beings who are indigenous to this land. Maybe that was an alright word in the 1930s, but it's 2014 now and I would hope we've progressed enough now as a people to see that the word "redskins" is just flat out wrong. And apparently somewhere in Daniel Snyder's mind he knows the word is offensive too, otherwise he'd prove that it isn't offensive by using the word himself to describe Native-Americans. He knows it's an offensive word. But he figures it's cheaper to go to a few reservations, throw some money at them to get them to shut up and hope that it all dies down. Rather than spend the money to actually do a name change.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
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Posted 26 May 2014 - 10:56 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 26 May 2014 - 10:20 PM, said:

Well I's be two stoopid too under-stande u. Pleeze xplain it two me?


No it's just that you guys who "don't see an issue with it" are just trying to defend the indefensible. If the word "redskins" was really not a slur. Then Dan Snyder and the rest of you trying to defend it wouldn't have a problem using the word "redskins" to refer to not only the football team. But also towards the actual human beings who are indigenous to this land. Maybe that was an alright word in the 1930s, but it's 2014 now and I would hope we've progressed enough now as a people to see that the word "redskins" is just flat out wrong. And apparently somewhere in Daniel Snyder's mind he knows the word is offensive too, otherwise he'd prove that it isn't offensive by using the word himself to describe Native-Americans. He knows it's an offensive word. But he figures it's cheaper to go to a few reservations, throw some money at them to get them to shut up and hope that it all dies down. Rather than spend the money to actually do a name change.

I'm not getting into another 47 page thread with you. If you don't get it I'm sorry. It's just over your head
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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:26 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 26 May 2014 - 11:56 PM, said:

I'm not getting into another 47 page thread with you. If you don't get it I'm sorry. It's just over your head


Sure, you keep telling yourself that. No I get it. You just don't want to admit that it's hypocritical to say it's okay to call a football team that word because it's not an offensive word. But then the people saying it's not offensive won't even use that very word themselves to describe Native-Americans. Either it's okay to call Native-Americans that word in 2014 or it's not okay. There is nothing difficult to understand about it. You can't defend it, so now you're just trying to claim that it's over my head. That's what you're trying to do.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 27 May 2014 - 07:24 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 26 May 2014 - 02:14 PM, said:

The thing I find the most interesting about that P.R. letter, is in the body of the letter they refer to Native-American people as "Native-Americans". Look at the last line of that letter. "We hope you will join us; Native Americans deserve our support." NOT "We hope you will join us; redskins deserve our support."


Is calling someone "black" offensive? No. But you won't read "a black man" in print. It'll always be written as "African American". There's levels to this PC bullshit.
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Posted 27 May 2014 - 09:12 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 27 May 2014 - 08:24 PM, said:

Is calling someone "black" offensive? No. But you won't read "a black man" in print. It'll always be written as "African American". There's levels to this PC bullshit.



Oh God here comes the "I'm tired of P.C." card. Tell me again which city does the NFL team called the "Blackskins" play in? Who in America goes around referring to people of African descent as "blackskins" still in 2014? Now if you want to call Native-Americans "red people" then by all means do it. But that is not the same as having a sports team with a nickname that disparagingly describes a race of people. And don't give me that bullshit about the media not using "black man". I hear and read those words everyday used in the media.

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Wow, "black male" written in print. But I thought we "won't read "a black man" in print". I thought "it'll ALWAYS be written as "African American". I guess Washington Post didn't get the memo from the P.C. police.

The media still refers to black people as black people. But you are damn sure not about to see some NFL team running around calling themselves the Blackskins.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 27 May 2014 - 10:16 PM

I'm sorry I forgot that we are being graded. Allow me to rephrase that, professor. A proper noun will never be described as "black" but always as "African American".
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Posted 27 May 2014 - 10:29 PM

If the injuns won the war, lacrosse would be our national sport and they could name their teams anything they want.

But, they didn't win the war.
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Posted 27 May 2014 - 11:38 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 27 May 2014 - 11:16 PM, said:

I'm sorry I forgot that we are being graded. Allow me to rephrase that, professor. A proper noun will never be described as "black" but always as "African American".


It really doesn't matter how you want to phrase it because your statement is inaccurate to begin with.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 07:23 AM

View PostRoger Vick, on 27 May 2014 - 11:29 PM, said:

If the injuns won the war, lacrosse would be our national sport and they could name their teams anything they want.

But, they didn't win the war.


So we're moving on from the term "redskins" completely now?



I'm with Mr_Jet on this. If you won't give an expansion team a name that currently exists in market, that name should not exist at all.
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 07:58 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 28 May 2014 - 12:38 AM, said:

After several unsuccessful minutes of googling, I decided to dismiss your point with a carte blanche response. I'm right you're wrong and I got the last word.


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 08:45 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 27 May 2014 - 11:38 PM, said:

It really doesn't matter how you want to phrase it because your statement is inaccurate to begin with.

Yawn.... Your banter is boring.
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:59 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 28 May 2014 - 09:45 AM, said:

Yawn.... Your banter is boring.



:rolleyes: Please, if my banter is so boring your ass wouldn't have kept coming back and replying to me.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 05:30 PM

The only Native Americans that sem to have an issue with the name are the pussies in the Oneida nation in NY. They're so screwed up, the tribe actually split with more than half moving to Wisonsin. I'm part Native American and I have no problem with the name.

Why is it that only the 'Skins are being bothered? What's next? Norweigans wanting Minnesota to change their name form Vikings? What about the Blackhawks & Braves? Should we get on the case of anything that offends anyone? Again.......my point is proven that the world is filled with a bunch of politically correct little bitches. The government can kiss my ass with what they think. There's not a Native American in the group of 50 crying like the little pussies they are.
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 06:43 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 28 May 2014 - 06:30 PM, said:

The only Native Americans that sem to have an issue with the name are the pussies in the Oneida nation in NY. They're so screwed up, the tribe actually split with more than half moving to Wisonsin. I'm part Native American and I have no problem with the name.

Why is it that only the 'Skins are being bothered? What's next? Norweigans wanting Minnesota to change their name form Vikings? What about the Blackhawks & Braves? Should we get on the case of anything that offends anyone? Again.......my point is proven that the world is filled with a bunch of politically correct little bitches. The government can kiss my ass with what they think. There's not a Native American in the group of 50 crying like the little pussies they are.



The guy who advocates shooting the babies of undocumented workers in the head also supports the "redskins" nickname. What a surprise. I would explain to you the difference between calling teams the "Redskins" and the "Vikings", but this is you we're talking about here and as we all know facts and thinking logically aren't important to you. You're more concerned about spewing inflammatory rhetoric and filling your posts with misspelled expletives. But the fact that even you refer to them as Native-Americans does say a lot. That just proves even more that the nickname "redskins" needs to be eliminated. I mean when our own resident Cliven Bundy doesn't even call Native-Americans that word, that shows that it's past time for the name to be changed.

I will say that there is more than just one tribe calling for a name change. The National Congress of American Indians (made of hundreds of tribes across the nation) has called for the name to be changed. So it's not just the Oneida tribe. But if we're using being "part" Native-American for whether or not we should be offended, well I'm part Native-American too somewhere and I am offended. So what now?

It still amazes me how when some member of a minority group talks about race and racism we are told (usually by white, protestant, conservatives) that we need to stop talking about skin color. Stop playing "the race card". Because talking about skin color only divides us. We're supposed to be a "melting pot" in the U.S. But when it comes to the Washington NFL team. Oh well we can't change the name because that's 70 years of football tradition. Or it would cost a billionaire a few million dollars to change it, so it has to stay. So we shouldn't talk about skin color or acknowledge it when racial issues arise. But it's okay to acknowledge skin color when naming football teams. Got it.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 10:54 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 28 May 2014 - 07:43 PM, said:

The guy who advocates shooting the babies of undocumented workers in the head also supports the "redskins" nickname. What a surprise. I would explain to you the difference between calling teams the "Redskins" and the "Vikings", but this is you we're talking about here and as we all know facts and thinking logically aren't important to you. You're more concerned about spewing inflammatory rhetoric and filling your posts with misspelled expletives. But the fact that even you refer to them as Native-Americans does say a lot. That just proves even more that the nickname "redskins" needs to be eliminated. I mean when our own resident Cliven Bundy doesn't even call Native-Americans that word, that shows that it's past time for the name to be changed.

I will say that there is more than just one tribe calling for a name change. The National Congress of American Indians (made of hundreds of tribes across the nation) has called for the name to be changed. So it's not just the Oneida tribe. But if we're using being "part" Native-American for whether or not we should be offended, well I'm part Native-American too somewhere and I am offended. So what know?

It still amazes me how when some member of a minority group talks about race and racism we are told (usually by white, protestant, conservatives) that we need to stop talking about skin color. Stop playing "the race card". Because talking about skin color only divides us. We're supposed to be a "melting pot" in the U.S. But when it comes to the Washington NFL team. Oh well we can't change the name because that's 70 years of football tradition. Or it would cost a billionaire a few million dollars to change it, so it has to stay. So we shouldn't talk about skin color or acknowledge it when racial issues arise. But it's okay to acknowledge skin color when naming football teams. Got it.


I spotted the error. You lose.
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:00 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 May 2014 - 11:54 PM, said:

I spotted the error. You lose.


You spotted that was well past the third line. But I fixed it for you.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 03:19 PM

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@Redskins: Tweet @SenatorReid to show your #RedskinsPride and tell him what the team means to you.


Um...what?
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